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Post# 82424   9/9/2005 at 09:31 (6,796 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS)        

Hi all ... thought you would enjoy some shots of my circa late 1970's Maytag Porta-Washer. These are fun washers to use and I loved the brand new one that I bought in 1979/1980 when I had my very first apartment. I would wash and wash in that machine. I used it steadily until the late 1980's when I finally wore it out and traded it in on a set of regular-sized automatics.

I had always wanted a new Maytag wringer but since I lived in an apartment, this was a close second!!

Please forgive the scuffed up floor, scuffed-up double tubs, and the badly needed repainting of the walls! Very shortly, I will be removing the double tubs, repainting the walls (white ... in case you're interested), and buffing the floor to get ready for my 101P which I hope to have done before the cold weather sets in here in Central MN. I've had a very busy summer and these type of house repairs seem to take a "back seat" to the yard, garden and all the other little things there are to do. Summer goes by so very fast for me ...

Enjoy the photos!!

Geoff


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Post# 82427 , Reply# 1   9/9/2005 at 09:45 (6,796 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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COOL!

Thanks


Post# 82430 , Reply# 2   9/9/2005 at 09:58 (6,796 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)        

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Hi Geoff,
Wow what a cool Porta-Washer; the dual Impellers are very interesting and they reverse direction to avoid tangling, if only the Hoover Twinnies had done that.
Thanks for sharing. I love your wonderful Maytag Wringers they are just beautiful.

Happy Washing

All the best.
Hugh



Post# 82435 , Reply# 3   9/9/2005 at 10:55 (6,796 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
Wow!

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I've always wondered how these things work, now I know! And coppertone to boot! As I always say Geoff, too cool! BTW, you have an amazing collection of wringers!

Ben


Post# 82460 , Reply# 4   9/9/2005 at 12:22 (6,796 days old) by Petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Great pics, I'd forgotten how labor intensive those little washers were but I still think they should bring them back for all the folks living in apartments etc. The one and only Danby that I see still made is way too expensive.

Post# 82477 , Reply# 5   9/9/2005 at 13:31 (6,796 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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What kewl pics! Thanks for posting.

Yes, TT washing is very labour intensive, but fun! Basically it is wringer washing with a spinner. Lots of splashing (thank goodness for those "wee-wee" pads), and with the Hoover at least lots of noise,rattling and vibrations. Mainly only on spinning though, during the wash the unit is almost dead silent.

By the way, does anyone know if spin mats for twin tubs are interchangeable? Mine is slowly coming apart, and though Gizmo is sending another, want to keep my eye out for either Maytag or Hoover mats should they pop up.

Launderess


Post# 82494 , Reply# 6   9/9/2005 at 14:48 (6,796 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Cool pictures! Isn't it fun to find a machine back that you had in the past?! I have never seen one of those litte twintubs with two pulsators at work, would love to do a wash with one sometime.

I must say your Maytag N2LPS looks great. I like it especially because it's round unlike most Maytag wringers.


Post# 82495 , Reply# 7   9/9/2005 at 14:53 (6,796 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Tangling in Hoovers

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Find if one is careful about load sizes tangling in a Hoover TT isn't *that* bad. Have always loaded my washer the way the Maytag instructions state: start the washer and add only enough laundry that can be moved by the impellers. One has to remember the Hoover unit at least was designed for rapid washing in one tub, then rinsing/spinning in the other. In theory once one got a rythym going wash day should wizz past.

Another thing I find that helps keep tangling down with a Hoover is to do wash cycles in short bursts, then a brief soaking period, then repeat. Again this is allot of palaver for wash day, but why bother using a twin tub if one does not want drama?

One thing about the Maytag twinnies, wonder why they only spun at 2100 versus Hoover's 3100 or so. And why weren't they designed for spin rinsing verus moving laundry back and forth between tubs? Hoover units seem a tab more water efficient in that one could in theory cut water use by only doing spin rinses instead of deep rinses in the tub. Know some say the spin rinse on later models wasn't that great, but find the older models, where one filled the extractor with water and let her rip pretty good at removing suds/soap.

Launderess


Post# 82500 , Reply# 8   9/9/2005 at 15:12 (6,796 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
Scuffed up, Shmuffed up

Geoff,
My peepers ain't all that good, but it don't look like there's
much scuffed upidness to me! I thought things look quite tidy and sensible. Thank you for the lovely presentation.Looking forward to seeing your "new" automatic.


Post# 82503 , Reply# 9   9/9/2005 at 15:22 (6,796 days old) by scott55405 ()        

Very cool, don't think I've seen one in Coppertone! But, how are you going to rinse when wringer washing, if you remove the tubs?!

Post# 82507 , Reply# 10   9/9/2005 at 16:18 (6,796 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS)        

Thanks for the kind words everyone!! I have enjoyed my wringer washers and my Porta-Washer. They are fun ... I think it's because you get your hands into it. I love the fragrant soap suds, warm water, the whirrs and hums of the machines. Everything is so clean when you're done (including your hands AND your floor). It's usually a "quiet time" for me on Saturdays; I'm not disturbed when I do laundry. I do it early in the morning and just take my sweet time.

This machine can tangle and I do try to follow the instructions. It works best when you have one large item (like a sheet) along with medium and smaller items. The load of towels last night was: one bath sheet; two bath towels; one hand towels; one wash cloth; and a pair of underwear. It was a perfect size. I noticed that the fuller the spinner is the quieter it is. The tangling was minimal and the minute I started to move the towels to the spinner they untangled.

Launderess ... tell me about spin mats. What are those? Like a big Rubbermaid cushioned mat? I like the sound of that!!

Louis ... the N2L was a very popular model of Maytag wringer washers. It appeared first in 1940 and remained as the "lower cost" model until the wringer's demise in 1983. It was smaller than the Models E and J. It holds 16 gallons of water; the little Porta-Washer holds 11 gallons. So, the N2L is about 1/2 again the size of the Porta-Washer!! I really like using my N2LPS; very nice machine and washes quietly and quickly.

Scott ... have no fear!! I am thinking of a unit just like the link below. I just haven't had time to get everything together. AND I still have my 1998 Maytag LAT automatic that I bought brand new when I bought my house; I have been using it (sometimes) to help with the 2nd rinse. It is a HUGE top loader and does a beautiful deep rinse!!


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Post# 82510 , Reply# 11   9/9/2005 at 16:59 (6,796 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Spin Mats

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Are the rubber covers one places over the laundry in the spinner on TTs to keep items down in the tub. Your Maytag's manual simply calls them a "rubber cover".

We're going to have to get you a pinny (apron) for those messy washdays! Bet you would'nt catch Mrs. Cleaver doing her laundry without one! Maybe I'll embroider one for you with something like "Maytag" in maculine, but discreet lettering! *LOL

"Ward, I'm worried about Beaver".

Launderess



Post# 82517 , Reply# 12   9/9/2005 at 17:27 (6,796 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS)        
Oh ... the spin covers!!

I thought you meant a floor mat!! I like the idea of a big squishy Rubbermaid floor mat though.

Yes, the manual tells you to even press down the load so it spins more evenly. The spin cover is supposed to keep the load in balance; I'm not sure how that would do it ~ more like keeping something from flying out.

FYI ... I wear an apron; a chef's white apron. I buy them at Sam's Club in a 3-pack!! I use them when I do laundry, clean the bathroom and when I cook (one for each chore ... heaven forbid combining the bathroom cleaning with the cooking one!!). I like wearing an apron like that. I don't think I'd do too well in a "pinny". I don't have the figure!! ***LOL*** :-) Maybe I should try June Cleaver's heels, however, they might "uplift" my legs and calves and then I'd look better in a pinny, right?




Post# 82519 , Reply# 13   9/9/2005 at 17:51 (6,796 days old) by washaholic ()        

That brings back many fond memories. I can remember as a kid by mom and aunt had a hoover washer just like that. Thanks for the pictures.

Darin


Post# 82522 , Reply# 14   9/9/2005 at 17:55 (6,796 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
I've got what June Cleaver prolly wore

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Vintage Playtex rubber girdle. No self respecting female from age of puberty till death during the 1950's got dressed without one. *LOL*

Launderess


Post# 82533 , Reply# 15   9/9/2005 at 18:47 (6,796 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Geoff, very nice machine! Thanks for posting the pictures...brings back some (recent) memories!

I had the Avocado version of this machine in 2004, but it was definitely used (that back panel was corroded as well). I still loved the machine (it cleaned WONDERFULLY and it amazed me how whisper-quiet the wash motor was) and used it until the pump finally started leaking. That diverter valve gave me more trouble, but that was before I knew how to adjust the cable tension so that it seals properly.

Considering I have enough parts (including the 2 motors), I'm seriously thinking about the Illinois eBay machine.

--Austin


Post# 82550 , Reply# 16   9/9/2005 at 19:07 (6,796 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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That auction is sitting too quiet for too long. Have a serious hunch it is going to get interesting at the last minute.

L.


Post# 82582 , Reply# 17   9/9/2005 at 20:37 (6,796 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS)        

Austin ... that little Maytag in Illinois is very nice. I don't mind the Harvest Gold on that machine; it's kind of friendly looking!!

I just used mine again tonight to wash my inside cleaning rags so I won't have those to do tomorrow. Tomorrow (Saturday), I'm going to wash my sheets and towels in it. Should be fun!!

Good luck if you decide to get the Porta-Washer!!!

Laundress ... girdles were bad ... very bad!!! I wonder how many women screwed up their insides with those things?

I'm glad everyone's enjoying the photos!!

Geoff


Post# 82587 , Reply# 18   9/9/2005 at 20:46 (6,796 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Thanks for the pics Geoff! That Porta-Washer is just mint!! I found an avocado washer and matching dryer a month or so ago, they both work but need a good detailing.

What is it with avocado green popping up lately?


Post# 82588 , Reply# 19   9/9/2005 at 20:48 (6,796 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Geoff

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Think you may have girdles confused with corsets.

Really like that Ill Maytag washer,but as stated have very little room. HOWEVER it ain't over until it is over!

Launderess


Post# 82692 , Reply# 20   9/10/2005 at 17:43 (6,795 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS)        

Oh boy, Greg ... a set!! Do you have photos of it yet? I bet those Porta-Dryers worked well because of the amount of water removed from the high rpm spin of the Porta-Washer.

I used my little washer again this morning and had fun! I had to do errands at Target today and picked up a box of TideHE to use specifically in that machine.

Launderess ... I still think that "binding" oneself can't be good; would you agree? LOL :-)


Post# 84073 , Reply# 21   9/20/2005 at 08:20 (6,785 days old) by designgeek ()        

Way cool, Geoff. I'd get one of those for a backup machine; plain white, green, or yellow for me.

The purpose of the spin-mat (rubber cover) is to prevent socks etc. escaping at high speed from the spin tub into the outer tub and/or mechanism, which could cause damage to the machine as well as to whatever tried to escape.

You don't want to "press down" too hard on the load in the spinner, because that would interfere with the free passage of the water out of the load.

Petek, I have one of the Danby units, it cleans great, it's fast, quiet, and very cleverly designed. Lighter construction than the classic Hoovermatic and Geoff's Maytag twinnie, and won't handle water over 140 F. Standard North American style agitator; interesting duty cycle (Gentle: one sec clockwise, one sec pause, one sec counterclockwise, one sec pause, repeat for however-many minutes you set on the timer. Normal: same but 1-1/2 seconds counterclockwise, and yes that does make a difference!). The gentle cycle is good for everything, but I use the normal cycle for larger loads of underwear. Uses half the water & electricity per pound of laundry as the large Hotpoint TL that came with this place, though I still use the Hotpoint for big stuff that won't fit in the Danby. Cost me $250 (US) or so plus shipping. I'd say it's well worth it.

BTW, I've been experimenting with an ad-hoc "spin/rinse" procedure and discovered that it doesn't make a huge difference compared to the standard "overflow rinse" procedure. The latter is: wash, spin, refill washtub with clean water, put load back in washtub, turn on agitator and let water flow through at about 1-2 gallons/minute for 6-9 minutes. Doing a few spin/rinses before the overflow rinse doesn't appear to reduce the amount of water or time needed for the latter. This is interesting & counter-intuitive, but in any case the Danby machine isn't designed for spin/rinse, and the overflow rinse works great -no detectable detergent left in the clothes, no scent, they just smell like clean water after the final spin.

On the Maytag the impellers rotate in the same direction, i.e. both clockwise, then both counterclockwise. Imagine if they rotated in opposite directions; when the left one was going counterclockwise and the right one clockwise, the water would tend to shoot up in the middle between them!:-)

It would be very interesting to see a machine of this type with two impellers but have 'em on opposite sides of the washtub, i.e. front side and back side. This I think would also produce a no-tangle action since the water would all be moving at the same speed across the horizontal axis. Though it would reduce capacity slightly, which is probably why it hasn't been done yet.


Post# 84081 , Reply# 22   9/20/2005 at 08:43 (6,785 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        

"My peepers ain't all that good, but it don't look like there's
much scuffed upidness to me! I thought things look quite tidy and sensible"

That's what I thought, too. Also, weren't wringers at their most versatile when one had twin tubs? And if what if you get a Suds Saver automatic down the line?



Post# 84117 , Reply# 23   9/20/2005 at 10:22 (6,785 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS)        

I've wondered about the Danby Twin-Tub and its effectiveness. Thanks for the info!! It seems like it uses a lot of water; or maybe its just me.

Wringer washers were definitely most effective with double rinse tubs. The way I do things, I could get by with one. I sometimes like using the automatic for the final deep rinse. I enjoy using and watching the action of the wringer washer, so its not too bad for me. I don't have a lot of laundry every week; just a few loads. A lot of my dress clothing goes to the cleaners every couple of weeks along with any white shirts I use. So, my weekend laundry is basically towels, sheets, underclothing, and casual/jeans. My mom is with me now and does her laundry and mine a couple of times a week, so when I wash on the weekend, it's mainly for fun!! :-)

Having just a single tub would work for me, even if I find my "dream" suds-saver (Maytag, of course!). I would need just an additional stand-pipe and could use the single tub for the suds return. When I was growing up, our basement did not have rinse tubs; my mom used a galvanized, sealed garbage can (new, of course) for her suds return water!! It was really easy to handle, believe it or not. I don't know where my dad found one that was "sealed" with no seam like that one; had to have been the hardware store but I've never found another one.


Post# 84299 , Reply# 24   9/21/2005 at 07:58 (6,784 days old) by designgeek ()        

Geoff, the Danby unit uses about half the amount of water per pound of laundry compared to a conventional top loader. The procedure I use is: wash, drain washtub, spin, refill washtub with clean water, rinse in washtub in overflow-rinse mode, then save that rinse water, final spin, done. (Total time: about 30 minutes.) Next load gets washed in the rinse water from the previous load, which is perfectly clean water (plus or minus a tiny bit of tint from the dyes in the fabrics in the previous load). (I also add a couple of tablespoons of bleach to the saved rinsewater to keep it sanitary, so it can sit for a couple of days before the next washday.)

You can get even more efficient by using the procedure that's popular in Australia and the UK: wash two or more loads in the same wash water. This isn't "icky," since basically the concentrations of water, detergent, and removed dirt are the same as you get in a front loader with the same amount of laundry in a smaller amount of water.

Modern FLs are still the most efficient machines around, but the Danby TT-420 is pretty close, at a fraction of the cost and with the benefits of being more compact and portable. Ideal case is I'd have both, and use each for what it was best at.


Post# 84327 , Reply# 25   9/21/2005 at 10:28 (6,784 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
garbage cans

"I don't know where my dad found one that was "sealed" with no seam like that one; had to have been the hardware store but I've never found another one."

In my experience, even the garbage cans with a seam are watertight, and certainly the plastic cans are.


Post# 84615 , Reply# 26   9/22/2005 at 21:51 (6,783 days old) by shanonabc ()        

my friend washes whites, followed by sheets, colors, towels and then the dirtiest stuff last. She can often put about 7 loads through one tub of water (but she doesn't rinse (eew))

Post# 84715 , Reply# 27   9/23/2005 at 10:00 (6,782 days old) by designgeek ()        

Doesn't rinse?! Eeyow!, I can feel the detergent-itch all over me just thinking about it! Or does she have some miracle detergent that's non-itchy?:-)

I've occasionally broken my own water-conservation rules to do a longer rinse or two rinses if needed to get all the detergent out.

Even a difference of +5 ml. of detergent can make the difference between needing more rinse time or not. Any detergent beyond that needed for effective cleaning seems to increase rinse requirements: For a normally-dirty load, 20 ml. is fine, 25 is too much. for a Really Dirty Load, as in, after working in the garage, 25 ml. is fine but 30 is too much. I think what happens is, detergent molecules that don't have any dirt to grab just end up hanging out in the fabric waiting for something to do.



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