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Post# 82806   9/11/2005 at 18:01 (6,800 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        

Im so excited if you cant tell!

There is a Hoover 520 similar to the one that appears to the POD that pops up occassionally, except that is a Hoover 565, the 520 was the volume selling model.

Its in Melbourne of course so does someone want to get it?

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Post# 82863 , Reply# 1   9/11/2005 at 22:31 (6,800 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        
I would love one of those

 Hi Aaaaroooohhh,

I would love one of those, the old Hoovers with the ramp agitator were great. I find it sad that they've become the tacky clone that they are now.

Regards

Nathan

Post# 82875 , Reply# 2   9/12/2005 at 00:04 (6,800 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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This is a great vintage washer to have - hopefully someone will be able to save it. This washer is built on the later Blackstone design, very similar mechanics inside.

Post# 82882 , Reply# 3   9/12/2005 at 01:00 (6,800 days old) by shanonabc ()        

Ooooooh! I wish i could get it!

Post# 82884 , Reply# 4   9/12/2005 at 01:05 (6,800 days old) by Petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Well that's my first sighting of a Hoover toploader.
I do have a question though seeing as it's down in Oz..
does the agitator turn from right to left then back, or left to right then back?



LOL

Post# 82886 , Reply# 5   9/12/2005 at 01:10 (6,800 days old) by shanonabc ()        

Well it could go either way (duh!) LOL

Post# 82898 , Reply# 6   9/12/2005 at 08:21 (6,799 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Whomever gets it----send us photos of the interior and undersides! Looks like a real cool machine!

Post# 82909 , Reply# 7   9/12/2005 at 09:34 (6,799 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

I'm probably nearest but I can't get it, no time, no room. A farmer near here has one in his sheep shearing shed, no longer used but in excellent nick. When I am ready for it I will see if it's still there but in the meantime I'm up to my ears in washing machines and have my eyes on another couple already.

Chris

Post# 83378 , Reply# 8   9/14/2005 at 23:23 (6,797 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        

Hi Brisnat.

I think that is is really sad the way Hoovers are now. Apparently Electrolux in Australia wont be allowed to use that name for much longer, so I wonder what might be around the corner?

Post# 83379 , Reply# 9   9/14/2005 at 23:46 (6,797 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        
The end

 Hi Aarooh

I unfortunately thing that the end of Hoover is around the corner. The machines dont have the water efficiency of the Simpsons and westinghouse, They dont have the eletronic controls of the other two (Unless this has just changed)

The only thing hoover still do well, is that indestructibley designed dryer, but I think the westinghouse is based on that, with the front mounted filter etc.

My guess is, that Hoover will dissappear and Westinghouse will be the replacement :(

Regards

Nathan

Post# 83381 , Reply# 10   9/15/2005 at 00:11 (6,797 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        

The original Email plan was to keep Hoover and Simpson in the laundry, Westinghouse and Chef in the kitchen and Kelvinator and Westinghouse as refrigeration.

Electrolux seems the be promoting Simpson as the value brand, Westinghouse as the Premium and Electrolux as trendy. I sometimes drive past the Electrolux headquarters in Riverwood and before it listed all the brands under their umbrella, now it just says Electrolux/Westinghouse/Simpson.

I just wonder if Maytag would ever use the Hoover name as it is entitled to.

Post# 83388 , Reply# 11   9/15/2005 at 06:54 (6,797 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia)        

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Hi everyone,
when I was in retail I heard that Electrolux would give up the Hoover name because of Maytag owning the rights. If you notice the new Hoover topload washers look the same as the old Simpson esprit washers. I remember being shocked when I unboxed one in the showroom. I liked the Hoover topload especially the 600 series as I liked the Westinghouse Laundromat topload washers. Unfortunately they don't make them like they used to. At home I now have a W459 Miele from 1978 and a W914 from 1992 and a W487 with matching dryer. If they made these toploaders today like they did back then with the same quality they would cost the price of a Miele!
Rod

Post# 83392 , Reply# 12   9/15/2005 at 07:47 (6,796 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

Yes, what a sad "near end" for Hoover. That indestructible dryer is actually a F&P design, they used to make them under brand names of International, Narta and something else I can't remember, long before F&P were sold here under their own name.

The last "true Hoover" dryer was the pair to the 455 front load washing machine, which was back in the late seventies. Subsequent Hoover dryers starting with the Apollo were the FP design, made in Aus by Hoover, I'd imagine there must have been a licensing arrangement.

Chris.

Post# 83871 , Reply# 13   9/18/2005 at 20:12 (6,793 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        
Well I never

 Hi Chris,

I never would've guessed that the Hoover Dryer had NZ roots. Is my assumption that the Westinghouse is also based on this construction correct? Do all of these style dryers still use the element cycling to maintain the heat, or like the Simpson/Malleys dryers do they have a second low wattage element.

Can I then assume that the AU F&P dryers are different as they seem much more complicated. They air intake at the front, inlet to the drum at the back, vent the drum and filter at the front and then vent to the rear? Do they use the same sort of element that the Hoover has?

Finally on this topic, the Older Malleys Whirlpool/Simpson dryers, are they the same design as the new Simpsons? I find my Malleys Whirlpool dryer is much slower than a Hoover Apollo dryer? The airflow seems great, the heat is there, but for the first time in my life ever, I'm setting the timer to 120mins to dry a load of towels. I thought the early Malleys dryers had a recall due to overheating in the element, but in mine it doesnt seem to be the case. In Mums hoover anything in there past about an 60 minutes is baked.

Hugs

Nathan

Post# 83921 , Reply# 14   9/19/2005 at 09:24 (6,792 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

Hi Nathan

I have never been inside a newish Simpson dryer, so I'm afraid I know nothing about them. I had no idea they had two elements, the older ones ( Simpson Minimax and similar) had only one circular element just inside the front of the machine, pretty much around the door opening. I don't like them at all, they are rotten to work on compared the the Hoovers. To replace an element you have to completely dismantle the machine, and getting the belt tensioner back together is a terrible job, if you have the belt even a fraction out of alignment, it will still go back together but as soon as you start the dryer, the tensioner flies apart and you have to take the back cover off again. Lots of other common faults too. These were made until at least 10 years ago, I haven't followed any changes since.

It is many years since FP and Hoover dryers were the same, they have evolved separately, the earliest had a spiral wire coil element but Hoover soon changed to a tube style element. The FPs are quite different now, I haven't looked closely at them but I wouldn't be surprised if they had started a whole new design, leaving the Hoovers as a "relic" of the old design. The Westinghouses look the same to me though again I haven't looked closely - I'm not much of a dryer enthusiast, I just have had to fix them occasionally.

If your Malleys isn't working at its best, look for:
- slack/worn fan belt (the stretchy one on the back under a plastic cover)
- blockages of airflow
- lint filter - if it's a foam disc, replace it with a mesh one, they are interchangeable
- check temperature setting
- check the drum is tumbling properly - worn/slipping belt, tight bearings.

good luck

Chris

Post# 83989 , Reply# 15   9/19/2005 at 18:52 (6,792 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        
Service

 Hi Chris,

I got this dryer for free out of the weekend paper, the owner was complaining that it would bang or rattle. It turned out that the felt that the front of the drum runs on had baked into a hard crisp. So after hours of messing around with thinners and paint stripper to remove the old one and the glue, I fitted a new kevlar support in and its been running perfectly since.

I know what you mean. When I took it apart to replace the felt, I had to remove the back panel, remove the back structural supports, remove the belt, remove the drum, remove the front panel, and there I was. It was basically a box with the front support left it in. I can relate to getting the belt back on, just getting the tension arm and the switch in the right place was almost impossible. It was if anything the hardest part of the whole job.

The Malleys machine has the metal tube with circles the inlet holes in the drum, at the bottom of the tube there is a heater box, which has an element similar to a toaster element. On high the whole element heats up. On low only about 1/3 of the element heats up. It would appear that it is possible to replace the element on one of these without removeing the belt or the drum.

The fan belt on this is under the metal backplate not on the outside of the back plate, and it is tight enough that it was a struggle to get off.

The airflow out the vent at the back seems strong, towards the end of the cycle it gets warm/hot and it already has a mesh lint filter. Watching the clothes tumble it appears to be working right, so I dont think that's the case either.

The only thing I can think of, is that it just uses a more subtle heat and at a lower temperature, the front of the drum gets hot, it jsut seems to take a while for the heat to make it to the back. Mum's Hoover gets hot all over when running, after a few loads on high, the cabinet is hot all over. The Whirlpool gets a hot spot at the front and around the door but the rest of the cabinet stays cold.

Other than that, its now a very very quiet machine.

Thanks for your advice

Hugs

Nathan


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