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Post# 496634   2/15/2011 at 12:26 (4,812 days old) by jim (Hudson, WI)        

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Hi - does anyone know where in the Minneapolis area you might start to look for say a 60's style Fridgidaire washer? I didn't see many when I worked on washers years ago for a bit. And then I never actually got to repair that brand as I was working sort of as an apprentice and the boss did the work on any Fridgidaires we came across. I got to do the Kenmores. I woulnd't mind having one with a clear lid to watch the whole thing happen ya know? A turquoise one would be neat but any color would be fine actually. Are they difficult to work on? I'm assuming they did not make a matching gas dryer. I've only seen electric ones. Is the transmission much different than say a Whirlpool or Kenmore? I assume there's some kind of spin tube. Does the pump work directly off the motor or is it pulley driven? What type of powertrain do they have? Do the tubs have holes or do they empty over the top like a SQ? What has been your experiences for repair frequency and what is it that most often needs attention or replacement/repair? I'd like one that has temperature controls that allow HOT wash and WARM rinse if they made them that way. I've never actually looked at any of their manuels so I'm pretty ignorant of their guts. Did they make any with lights in the tub/control panels? That's be cool too.

Thanks for the read. Any help here would be appreciated.





Post# 496648 , Reply# 1   2/15/2011 at 13:28 (4,811 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
check "searchalator"

Just search "unimatic","multimatic","rollermatic"or "1-18"and you will find
all kinds of interesting threads on these"GM frigidaire"1979-earlier washers
Starting around 1980,the "WCI frigidaire"began with adapted westinghouse and
franklin agitator washers-all franklin after about 1988 when the westinghouse
design went out of production.
When i first started to get interested in washer mechanisms around 1977,
rollermatics,1965-69 era,were all over behind appliance shops and at the
dump etc.they were also still in very good supply at the dump in '82-84
then seemed to really thin out after that-last seen one at the dump in '98
1-18s,70-79era either lasted better or didn't sell in as large of numbers
as i found none at the dump '82-84,finally finding one at the dump in '97
a red '79 1-18,partly dissassembled and bent up...


Post# 496654 , Reply# 2   2/15/2011 at 14:11 (4,811 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
Textbook Time

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Service manuals have been posted for the major GM Frigidaire transmissions, ranging from the Unimatic to the Rollermatic, in the Service Manual section of this site.

Set aside some time, a cool beverage, and an open mind!


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Post# 496655 , Reply# 3   2/15/2011 at 14:12 (4,811 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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A primer may be Robert's writeup from several years ago. A good start to breaking down information.

These machines are not as plentful as they used to be. But, if you are persistant they do show up from time to time.

Ben


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Post# 496669 , Reply# 4   2/15/2011 at 15:36 (4,811 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I'd start looking in Robert's basement!

Post# 496681 , Reply# 5   2/15/2011 at 16:10 (4,811 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Clutch the Pearls!.....a Peeping Tom!.......eeeeeeeeeeek!

Post# 496687 , Reply# 6   2/15/2011 at 16:33 (4,811 days old) by jim (Hudson, WI)        

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Say thanks much for all the help - i appreciate it.

Post# 496757 , Reply# 7   2/15/2011 at 22:34 (4,811 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
they are not common

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that's for sure. in 3 years i have lucked out and have managed to buy 6 rollermatics from 1965-1968 and one 1-18 from 1978.

parts are very hard to find as well but a few do surface from time to time on e bay and at a few appliance parts shops. i have managed to come across several motors, tub seals, water and oil bellows and a couple extra jet cone agitators but again that took 3 years.

i picked up my last rollermatic in maryland last spring and am basically done! unless one comes around in the ohio area i am not going to chase after any more.

they are not hard to work on once you get familiar with how they work. i downloaded the manual for the rollermatic on this site and studied it day and nite for weeks as i rebuilt my first rollermatic. luckily, since everything is exposed and consists mainly of rollers and wheels it became very easy once i started on my 2nd and third rebuild.

these are my favorite old vintage washers. i have a 1-18 from the late 70's but don't enjoy it nearly as much as the older solid tub rollermatics. i will say i thought the 1-18 was a much harder rebuild process as well.

good luck and hopefully one or more will come your way like they did with me. i got one fron new orleans, 3 from new york state, one from tennessee, one from michigan, and as said the last from maryland. of the 3 from new york only two were in repairable condition. the other was so rusted that i stripped it for parts and threw away the tub and cabinet.


Post# 498183 , Reply# 8   2/21/2011 at 09:11 (4,806 days old) by jim (Hudson, WI)        
Fridgidaire Washers

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Well gents, (and ladies), I've gone and printed out all (ALL) of those repair manuels, put them in 3-ring binders and have started to plow through them.

There's a lot of repetition but it looks pretty straight forward. A direct electric motor driven pump/cooling fan and at the motor's transverse end of the axel, it's connected to a gear mechanism that converts spinning motion to up and down motion for agitation, with a spin tube to control the tub for water extraction and an automotically oiled interior gear box.

It's interesting to speculate as to how the engineers thought processes. They were given the task of coming up with a completely new, powerful, effective automatic washing maching - and they did.

The engineers I've known in my working career were a great bunch. Some rigid thinking and some more creative. I've known EEs, MEs, Process Es, and other kinds too. Here you see a blend of all types being creative as well as, as high tech (for the time period) as possible. The idea of a self oiling gear box interior almost seems like one of those guys loved automobiles and their internal parts and took his clue from them - oil pump included! The EEs had their say w/the solenoids here and there and the timer - a marvelous invention I think - a group of very specialzed switches controlled by a self stopping electric motor (in the manuals they mention that this part is very suseptible to moisture - so they were showing pretty forward thinking in that respect by being careful to isolate it from moisture infiltration, don't you think?) and the wiring harness design and placement. The MEs went to town on that transmission etc. Petty cool looking design. From GMs reputation, you assume they used the best parts available at the time. So one would expect a superior product. So what's your thoughts out there on the internet ethers? Over the years, how did these machines stand up to the Kenmores and the Maytags and other similar type top loaders? For ease of repair and longevity of operation between repairs? What's the consensus? Am I beating a dead horse here?


Post# 498404 , Reply# 9   2/21/2011 at 20:22 (4,805 days old) by pingmeep ()        

I don't know about beating a dead horse but your passion certainly comes through.


Post# 498447 , Reply# 10   2/22/2011 at 00:40 (4,805 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I'll hazard a guess that Frigidaires fall into the same category as other makes you don't see out there much anymore.  Norge is one that comes to mind first and foremost.  They just didn't remain functional or serviceable as long as other brands.

 

Maytag, Whirlpool/Kenmore and GE machines from that period had much higher reliability and longevity so are currently much easier to find as a result, either as viable machines for regular use or as parts machines to keep a daily driver going.  Indeed, there are still new replacement parts available that can be installed on Kenmore and Whirlpool machines from the mid-50's.


Post# 498740 , Reply# 11   2/23/2011 at 12:42 (4,804 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Ode to the W O Unimatic.....SPIN

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You place your ear against the cabinet at the level of the drain slits hidden around the upper crevice of the washtub.

The roar of water is unmistakable as the water hurls against the metal, and in 15 seconds the tub is empty of visible water.

Yet, the 1140 revolutions per minute still spray water as the centrifuge removes most of the water from the load. The sound of this spray is distinct, and then it becomes a mist.

 

You can hear this because there is no outer tub in the W O. Only the washtuband the cabinet. This is a rare sensual delight. You almost can't believe it.

The power and the sound are unbelievable.

If you raise your face to the tub you can feel the mist and see the spit of suds as the force makes a whirlwind around the tub's circumference.

The power is startling. There are no rubber tub guards or "spit dams" It's pure wild Frigidaire Spin.

 

During wash, the rubber pulsator is gentle to your clothing, but the rotary action of the load itself is fast, sometimes furious.

The frigidaire wants a full load, really, so you do not have to be shy. Small loads sometimes go off balance because the only half-full tub fills up during the overflow, so at spin time you have 10 gallons of water flying chaotically around 5 pounds of laundry. A trivial defect unknown to all full load givers.

 

I love these machines in all of their iterations: Unimatic Pulsamatic, Multimatic, One-Eighteen. Once bitten by the Frigidaire bug, there is no going back.

 

(not really an ode, but I'm not doneWink)


Post# 498754 , Reply# 12   2/23/2011 at 13:36 (4,803 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
*SIGH*

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Some of us will never experience this joy...

 

Malcolm


Post# 499027 , Reply# 13   2/24/2011 at 11:33 (4,803 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Keep the faith, Malcolm

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Look at me and Eddie and Jed: we never thought we'd find a Unimatic, and lo, we did! Also, my friend Dennis is trying to figure out a way to isolate and amplify the sounds of the W O spin. So we'll have it some day. And then there always the hope of a wash-in to attend.

Multimatics:

As a kid I was always sad that despite the mad spin, and all that water hurled away in seconds, the pump took "forever" (boy's impatience) to get going. With the motor shaft right thru its middle, it does not become functional until the rev comes up to speed. So the water only trickles, gradually increasing. No drama, no power. WP/KM's shoot the water out at once and I was always envious.

And then came the Multi with its belts where the pump kicks in immediately and the water comes a' gushing right away. Made me proud of Frigidaire, as did the "spray rinse." The Multi's skip that odd inexplicable rest period between the wash spin and the rinse fill, which was the only pause in the Unimatic cycle. Instead, the Multi whooshes in the rinse fill with a wider flume and more aerated water right away as the tub coasts down, giving a really dramatic and splashy spray.

There is a nice One minute "soak" before the wash and an indulgent "guilty pleasure" overflow rinse lasting for FOUR minutes. That is a record as far as this washer watcher knows. But the coolest thing for me is the two-speed spin where the tub goes at half warp for one minute, then click bang whoosh and we're off warping at full speed. I love it.

Here's a rare pic of a Frigidaire Suds-lock. You can see ethe narrow unveiled gap I was talking about yesterday where water actually spits during usual non-suds-locked loads.




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Post# 499028 , Reply# 14   2/24/2011 at 11:37 (4,803 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Another view at full suds hurl

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Post# 499034 , Reply# 15   2/24/2011 at 12:34 (4,803 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Wow Mike

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You must have worked real hard to sudslock a WO-65.

Ironic you posted this photo today as I was washing a load of "Truck Towels" after hitting the Car Wash today and threw in some Tide. (Which I haven't used since I started with Persil.) Holy Crap. The suds were coming through the Lid Handle and the seams the lid.
Then that gentle"Clank" of the solenoid and within 8-10 seconds, the Suds were gone. I couldn't even see the Pulsator. And Woooosh... Gone.

Rinsing Halo...

Malcolm... When you least expected it, a Unimatic will fall from the sky and clunk you in the head. Just like mine did. I'll say a Ingraham Prayer for you.


Post# 499037 , Reply# 16   2/24/2011 at 12:50 (4,803 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
I'll say a Ingraham Prayer for you

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LOL!

Post# 499038 , Reply# 17   2/24/2011 at 12:55 (4,803 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
I had a recirculation going on

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the way Robert does in his Superunimatic 2, mine being manual of course, unlike his engineered system, using Liqud Tide Lilac, no loner available--great subtle smell. Had no idea how much froth had built up in the cabinet. Imagine! If remember correctly, I repeated the wash cycle, chocolate stains, etc. Got to watch the whole thing, but she could not warp up, and finally the reset button popped showing its crimson band. curiously phallic.. So I finally got to press the buzzer. I was overjoyed. Alas, it hasn't happened since.

PS: Imagine the size of the suds cake you would have had, Eddie, if you left the lid up. My stuff was all going on in the cabinet with only normal cake in the tub.


Post# 499041 , Reply# 18   2/24/2011 at 13:26 (4,802 days old) by jim (Hudson, WI)        

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Hi all - what's "I'll say a Ingraham Prayer for you" all about?



Post# 499054 , Reply# 19   2/24/2011 at 15:13 (4,802 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Beautiful rinse-halo there!

The Unimatic is just about the best Frigidaire, nothing quite like them. I like the Rollermatics and use my 1-18 all the time but the Uni is still my fave.


Post# 499072 , Reply# 20   2/24/2011 at 17:28 (4,802 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        

I love Frigidaire with an absolute passion and I would have to say the Unimatic is my fave also! A dream machine for me for sure!

Post# 499095 , Reply# 21   2/24/2011 at 18:13 (4,802 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Such fascinating machines......watching them puts you in a trans.....no matter what version there is.....how do we explain this passion to constantly watch...

but can we back up for a second......in reply #17, the timer, is basically a one cycle machine......where do you set this for the first fill, it is a time fill correct?......I see the second fill time on the dial....

and I understand the "push to restart" button.....

and of course the temp selection.....

whats the white button for?


Post# 499099 , Reply# 22   2/24/2011 at 19:03 (4,802 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        

Yes. Watching them does put you in a trance!

Post# 499101 , Reply# 23   2/24/2011 at 19:06 (4,802 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
UNIMATIC TIMERS

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Martin they had an extra cam in the timer that had a spring on it that allowed you to set the wash time and after so many minuets the cam would flip and fill would stop and washing would start. The rinse was always a full tub of water. It was a clever feature as most time fill machines you had to start at maximum wash time and reset the wash time after the fill. Even the last Frigid-air solid tub machine did not do this The Agitatub models in the 1970s.


Post# 499105 , Reply# 24   2/24/2011 at 19:32 (4,802 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Some of these machines from this era are just ingenious.....

from designs to mechanisms......pure brilliance!

I think thats where we get fascinated by watching them, and idea at work, and somewhat a flawless design.......give or take

it used to kill me as not only to watch the machine agitate, but how the spinning motor made the agitator oscillate, I just had to know what was going on inside that transmission, or what made that pulsator bob up and down.....

Thanks John


Post# 499126 , Reply# 25   2/24/2011 at 21:39 (4,802 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
The white switch and the prayer

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Martin

 

Believe or not, the white switch is the lid switch, pretty funny safety feature for a machine that spins at 1140 rpms, in that you have to have the lid open all the way till it rests against the switch to cut the power. A washer Boy's dream. Ah the safety features of the 50's

 

Jim

 

I don't know what the Ingraham Prayer is either, but if Ben and Eddie know what it is, you can be sure it's interesting or funny.

 

The MAGIC TIMER affords another cool sound: you can hear the click/ching of the spring John describes and you can see that the end of the wash cycle "makes up"

for the fill. In other words, when you set the washtime at 10, the fill goes on until minute 6, when the pulsation begins. Then the four minutes of "lost" wash time used for the fill is made up during the segment labeled "Wash Time." The notch before the W is for the 1&1/2 minute overflow.

 

Have to switch servers to get to the library for another pic.


Post# 499127 , Reply# 26   2/24/2011 at 21:47 (4,802 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Here

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water shooting out of the salt shaker neck during overflow rinse

Post# 499128 , Reply# 27   2/24/2011 at 21:52 (4,802 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
manual home made recirculation nozzle also used for suds-ret

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Post# 499129 , Reply# 28   2/24/2011 at 21:57 (4,802 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Here is one absolutely beautiful Sales Lit piece for the Frigidaire WO-65 Unimatic.  Yogi on page 8 it explains the wonderful new Select-o-Dial...

 

Please be advised this .pdf file download is 16mb...



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Post# 499140 , Reply# 29   2/25/2011 at 00:16 (4,802 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Great Reading ...... Thank You Robert

with the new select-o-dial, it now has 2 rinses, did this do away with the overflo during the rinse?........leaving the only overflo at the end of the wash phase?....


I know when my Speed Queen does a rinse, one minute overflo at the beginning and end, and considering it takes four minutes to fill the tub, if it continued to add water the entire time, it would be the equivilent of 2 tubs of water...

and the added benefit of 2 complete spin-out and refill would really have those clothes suds free.....plus in under 30 minutes....just amazing......why they did away with machines like this.....brain dead!


Post# 499157 , Reply# 30   2/25/2011 at 06:11 (4,802 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Rinse

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Yes, on the WO-65 you get two full tub rinses without overflow, but on the later WO-65-2 it had the overflow rinse at the end of the wash period and then overflowed through all of the rinse cycle also.

Love all this Frigidaire Reading!


Post# 499161 , Reply# 31   2/25/2011 at 06:33 (4,802 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        

That 800 Lady Kenmore in mickeyd's photo has also been other photos on this website. Love that color! Also learned what "thimble top agitator" means and now it is so obvious. Ok washer enthusiasts, what makes the Lady Kenmoore 800 get so popular amoung collectors and admirers like me?!

Post# 499170 , Reply# 32   2/25/2011 at 07:31 (4,802 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Ingraham Prayer...

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When I got my Unimatic the Timer Motor was shot. So like OK , I'll just run over to the parts store and pick one up. NOT.

Well, a friend found one and the timer motor manufacturer Brand Name at the time was Ingraham. According to the Unimatic Authorities, these Timer Motors were quite Unreliable and do not last that long.

So, Everytime I run a Wash through the Unimatic, I always say a "Ingraham Prayer".

And it is Very True... You never (or I don't) get tired of watching a Unimatic. Most Washers just don't have the Drama a Unimatic Performs Everytime.


Post# 499174 , Reply# 33   2/25/2011 at 08:00 (4,802 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
UNIMATIC RINSING

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As with many things the engineers that designed the orignal Unimatics got it right the first time as the double deep rinse rinsed out soil, detergent and bleach much better than the later overflow single rinse system did while using less than two additional gallons of water than the overflow rinse used.

 

All that said there were some problems with rinsing so throughly in the solid tub Unimatics or any washer for that matter. The overflow at the end of the wash period and during the deep rinse removed soap scum and excess suds much better. In a ST washer like the Unimatic when it goes into spin the heavy water goes quickly up and over the edge of the tub, so any thing floating on the surface goes down into the center of the tub and is plastered all over the surface of the clothing where it will remain. This was a problem in hard water areas or where people still used soap that the overflow rinse solved. 

 

When I got my first Unimatic it was the WO-65-2 which had the later overflow rinse I used it that way for a long time. Then I converted it to the two deep rinse by using an earlier timer and timer dial. The difference in rinsing was amazing as I often used this machine to wash white clothes where I add LCB near the end of the wash period. After rinsing with the overflow rinse you could still smell bleach in the clothes, but after going to the double rinse when you removed the clothing you could not even tell the clothing had been bleached. 

 

All that said the overflow rinse is much more fun to watch.


Post# 499218 , Reply# 34   2/25/2011 at 11:00 (4,802 days old) by jim (Hudson, WI)        
Ingraham Prayer

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Hello toploader55 - thanks for the info re. the Ingraham Prayer. I have seen that manufacturer's trade name before now that you mention it in an old parts book I used to use. I did not know however that they were short lived.

Would it be possible to use another timer other than the original one on these machines if one could not find an original that still worked? Say for example a timer from a more current washer - Kenmore? whatever?

What year did the WO-65-2 come out? Does the WO-65-2 have only one rinse?

Have any of you out there ever gone to the extent of having the whole machine re-porcelinized? Like take it apart completely and ship it somewhere that does that kind of work?

Thanks also to combo52 for your insight and creativity with the timer!

Jim



Post# 499226 , Reply# 35   2/25/2011 at 11:43 (4,802 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Would it be possible to use another timer other than the original one on these machines

Timer motors and escapements can be interchanged between like-made timers, however you need to be careful that the motor RPM/rotation matches the escapement advancement speeds in order to emulate the original timer sequences. The internal timer circuitry is typically very specific to the operation of that individual washer. You may be able to use single contacts to repair a timer circuit (it's been done before), but you wouldn't be able to swap a '52 Kenmore timer on a '52 Frigidaire.

In this instance, it is pretty easy to swap out the original Ingraham motors for the later and much more plentiful Mallory-made motors.


What year did the WO-65-2 come out? Does the WO-65-2 have only one rinse?


The WO-65-2 came out in 1952, and was in production up until 1954. It had a single rinse. The wash tub would fill with water, and would continue to fill during the rinse cycle, thus the idea of the 'over flow rinse'.


Have any of you out there ever gone to the extent of having the whole machine re-porcelainized?

I'm not sure if anyone here has had an entire machine re-porcelainized. The costs may be prohibitive to have complete machine done, but I can see the benefit in having a single panel redone if needed.

John - I agree that the WO-65 is a better rinsing machine than the later over flow Frigidaires. I've noticed a signifigant difference between the WO-65 and the WI-56 in terms of rinsing.

Ben


Post# 499339 , Reply# 36   2/25/2011 at 22:52 (4,801 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA)        
Ingraham

Ingraham was one of the major Connecticut clockmakers, going back to the mid-19th century. From the reading I've done, they were known mainly for their clock cases; in the 20th century they made cases for some other kinds of appliances such as radios. They went into electric clocks in the 1930s, and after WWII they make all kinds of clockwork-driven mechanisms. They were bought out by McGraw-Edison in 1967.

I've seen Ingraham mechanical clocks, but I've never seen any of their electric clocks. And in a quick look on Ebay just now, I see lots of mechanical clocks and watches, but only two of the pre-McGraw-Edison electric clocks. So it seems not that many of them survived. Apparently the motor problems weren't limited to Unimatic timers.


Post# 499457 , Reply# 37   2/26/2011 at 15:29 (4,800 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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Thank you, Ben, I always wonderer about the time frame for the W O family. In 1955, the Frigidaire style changed dramatically and every year thereafter. But the familiar, signature, iconic styling of the W O was around for five years, unchanged except for the red nose reindeer light morphing into a lid switch. So then is this right, the W O was produced from 1950-52? Always got a kick out of the W O being the double rinser, while the W O 2 only rinses once......I know...... know ;-> Wondering if Robert's 49 is also a W O

 

Andy, according to Gordon, two other guys and me have the 62 LK, while John, Darren, and Gordon have the 64 LK, a cooler prettier machine. People love them because the they are versatile, complex, beautiful, and rare--interesting cycles and of course, they're turquoise.



Post# 499745 , Reply# 38   2/27/2011 at 09:23 (4,800 days old) by jim (Hudson, WI)        
Ingraham

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David, thank you for your details about Ingraham. I remember some folks had an electric version of wind up mantle clocks made by Ingraham. I had one made by them but not a mantle type clock - given to me by my great aunt - it was oblong in shape, heavily nickel plated, art deco in design, very heavy, with a small light bulb at the bottom of the face. It's motor died within a year or so after I started to use it. (It had not been in use for probably 25 or more years when it was given to me in the mid 60s).

So I guess taking short cuts in production and use of inferior quality materials eventually comes back to haunt a company. Too bad more of the board members and CEOs of large corporations don't read history. So who says offshoring is a good thing for America? I say it's a traitorous cowardly way to make a quick buck on the backs of those who can least afford it.


Post# 499756 , Reply# 39   2/27/2011 at 10:05 (4,800 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

After a long time far from the club because i had no time to come here, today i came back to take a look and found this motivating thread.
It reminded I have my 2 rinses WO-65 sat in my bedroom waiting for parts...
I MUST restart the restoration process, but I still don't have the parts.

Now it's much easier for me because my best friend moved to Miami and her husband comes to Brazil every 2 weeks.
If somebody has a torque spring and water/oir seals to sell, please contact me.



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