Thread Number: 33069
DOE PRESS RELEASE - Washer Capacity Claims |
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Post# 497878   2/20/2011 at 08:32 (5,170 days old) by chestermikeuk ![]() |
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Whilst perusing data for "How Much Does It Wash" Threads I came across an interesting document - I was searching the ASKO USA website and on the Large Capacity XXL Machines saw this in the text, --------IEC capacity rating 4.55 cu ft, DOE rating 3.96 cu ft--------...so I searched around for an explaination IEC & DOE and found this....
MANUFACTURERS ANNOUNCE USE OF DOE MEASUREMENT FOR CLOTHES WASHER CAPACITY CLAIMS - WASHINGTON, DC‐‐ (January 26, 2011)‐‐ Manufacturers of clothes washers have independently determined that, beginning on or before April 30, 2011, they will voluntarily communicate capacity to consumers using only the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) clothes washer test procedure for drum volume calculations, including the most recent guidance on measuring drum volume, released by DOE during the summer of 2010. These manufacturers, listed at the bottom of this release, who are choosing to communicate drum volume for non‐energy purposes solely based on the DOE procedure, will not reference an “IEC equivalent” volume. This change will be applicable to all clothes washers sold as of that date regardless of when manufactured. Specifically, on or before April 30, 2011, each of the undersigned manufacturers have decided to revise their on‐line website information to reflect only washer capacity determined in accord with the DOE test procedure. Additionally, all print material, including product catalogues, published by these manufacturers after April 30, 2011 will include only washer capacities based on the DOE procedure. Finally, these manufacturers will communicate these capacities to retailers of washers and will encourage retailers to communicate washer capacities calculated in accord with the DOE test procedure following the April 30, 2011 date. The DOE procedure is currently used by all manufacturers to report energy and water consumption to DOE, and will be used in AHAM’s new energy verification program for clothes washers. The DOE procedure provides an accurate, uniform and repeatable measurement of drum volume for the purpose of calculating energy and water consumption for all clothes washer types. Because of advances in clothes washer design, technology and efficiency, AHAM is also continuing development of a test procedure that may enhance the communication of useable washer capacity information, beyond volume, to the consumer when making a purchase decision among a wide variety of product choices. The enhanced test procedure would provide more information to consumers regarding the quantity of clothes that can be effectively washed and rinsed in a single load. When completed, the test procedure would be voluntary; however, AHAM may present the test procedure to the Department of Energy (DOE) for proposed incorporation into the DOE’s test procedure for clothes washers. AHAM’s effort of developing an enhanced, uniform washer capacity test procedure will harmonize with international washer capacity procedures where appropriate. This is a complex area and will require significant investigation into consumer‐relevant washing and rinsing performance characteristics. Manufacturers: GE Appliances & Lighting Alliance Laundry Systems, Indesit Company SpA ASKO Appliances, Inc. LG Electronics, U.S.A., Inc. Blomberg – Arcelik A.S. Miele, Inc. BSH Home Appliances Corporation Samsung Electronics America, Inc. Electrolux Home Products, Inc. Whirlpool Corporation I wonder if this will see more of an alignment between US and Euro machine capacity sizes???...very interesting!!! CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK |
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Post# 498111 , Reply# 3   2/20/2011 at 22:27 (5,170 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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I wish someone would include rinse-ability into the tests. Items maybe clean but I really don't want to wear them if they are poorly rinsed. |
Post# 498169 , Reply# 7   2/21/2011 at 08:11 (5,169 days old) by dj-gabriele ()   |   | |
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That's just the standard European energy label plus a rinsing efficiency indicator. That would be a nice idea! |
Post# 498211 , Reply# 12   2/21/2011 at 11:03 (5,169 days old) by dj-gabriele ()   |   | |
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I did a factual cost analysis (again), I hope that's going to help not to open that "can of worms" ;) ![]() |
Post# 498352 , Reply# 18   2/21/2011 at 18:24 (5,169 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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![]() Dryers do not have DOE labels on them and I agree with you that electric water heaters should not be used if natural gas is available, but it is just as stupid if not more so to use an electric clothes dryer if gas is available. Gas dryers are 3-4 times more efficient in terms of how much fuel must be burned to produce the amount of electricity used by an electric dryer. If one must have an electric water heater one should look into a heat-pump model, I just purchased one for my partner this past Xmas. |
Post# 498396 , Reply# 21   2/21/2011 at 20:09 (5,169 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)   |   | |
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Post# 498476 , Reply# 22   2/22/2011 at 08:23 (5,168 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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![]() Your cost figures are way off you can't dry a 10-12lb load of clothes with just 15 minutes of heater on time in any dryer I have ever seen. You may dry 6 mens dress shirts in 30 minutes. I will compile the data to support the operational cost savings of gas vs electric dryers when I get a chance. But in most cases of doing 6-10 loads per week in a gas dryer will make cost of purchase free after aprox 5 years and pay for itself many more times over its 15-30 year life span. Thats a better payback than any stock or other investment you will likely ever make plus using a gas dryer causes only one 1/3 the carbon dioxide to be emitted into the atmosphere as using an electric one does. So you are saving the planet as well. |