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|Post# 502823   3/9/2011 at 17:47 (4,659 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)  || |
This was on our local Craigslist. Attractive machine! Supposedly from Dishlex et al--anything you Australian boys can tell us about this?
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|Post# 502842 , Reply# 1   3/9/2011 at 18:45 (4,659 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)  || |
If it is from the late 1990's, it is part of the 'Silent Series'....I have an instruction manual as there was one in the house here before we bought it. Seems they updated the dishwasher they had brought with them, but not the manual.....
Australian versions were single hose (either hot or cold) connect only.....cycle times will be increased with cold only though!
Cycle times will generally be between American and European machines in length (I feel)
Australian delivered machines ALL had heaters...elements normally ran the around the outside of the tub, not around the lower spray arm or concealed at this stage.
Generally very good performers and were always in the recommended list when assessed by our consumer magazine.
Generally reliable...main issue tends to be the door lock/switch and pumps. I never had any problems with my rotary dial version and friends are still using theirs that is at least 11yrs old.
You can adjust the amount of water they use and the force at the lower arm
- rinse hold
- fast wash
- normal wash
- pots wash
- super wash
All except the rinse hold may also be used in conjunction with the 'Eco Save' option which reduces both the wash and rinse temperature, removes one rinse from the Super Wash programme and removes the drying phase on all.
Prewash does not generally need detergent in these machines....
- Wash (between 45c-70c depending on both incoming water temperature and selected cycle)
- Flush (only on Super Wash)
- Rinse (incoming water temperature - this is missed from the fast cycle and there are 2 on Super Wash)
- Rinse (50c-70c)
- Dry (missed on Fast cycle)
.....If you decide you want it, I'll image the user manual and installation instructions for you....and I don't think you'll be disappointed with its performance either...
|Post# 502864 , Reply# 2   3/9/2011 at 20:24 (4,659 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)  || |
My aunt and uncle put this machine in their house when they built in 1992.
It was a good performer, nice and quiet and is pretty much the same as the Dishlex machines starting with the Mark 7 from the late 70's. They continued this design up until the late 90's when it was replaced with the Global series. Very little changed in that time with the exception of the detergent dispenser. A timer from one of the last Dishlex machines of this design will still work in a Mark 8 from 1980.
On theirs, the Membrane touchpad was replaced numerous times in the 10 years they had it, certain cycles would stop being available unless you wiggled the membrane just right. (These are still available) What finally killed it, was the pump bearings, at the time it was $450 for a new pump.
They had the matching oven and gas cooktop, it was all black and shiney and very unusual for an Aussie kitchen at that time.
If it is one of the early ones, the Water heater is hidden under the grey filter, and the dry element is a rectangle at the back of the tub. Assuming that it has both in a 110v arrangement. These machines were best connected to hot, as the water heating element was only 900watts. Filling at 60degs, you'll complete a full cycle in about an hour, from cold it stretches out to 90-120mins.
These machiens also have an overflow protection of sorts. If it's plugged in, but the machine is off and the water level reaches right up to overflow level, it'll turn on and start draining until the pressure switch resets. Quite a nice feature on a machine that old.
Its based on a great machine, Mum's Mark 8 from 1981 is still going strong today, with a couple of new hoses and a new pressure switch in that time.
|Post# 503143 , Reply# 3   3/10/2011 at 23:45 (4,657 days old) by peteski50 (New York)  || |
|Post# 503144 , Reply# 4   3/10/2011 at 23:46 (4,657 days old) by peteski50 (New York)  || |
|Post# 503198 , Reply# 5   3/11/2011 at 07:56 (4,657 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)  || |
I saw these at the EXPO Store that was a branch of Home Depot. I remember the tub light.
|Post# 503270 , Reply# 6   3/11/2011 at 11:47 (4,657 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)  || |
Those are pretty. I'm probably not going to jump on it since I just got another machine to play with, but thank you very much for the offer of the manual scans, I appreciate it.
Thank you for all the info--it's such a rare treat to see something like this here. If Which? said that they hadn't seen any first-class dishwashers in the sixties, it seems that the situation reversed later on. This machine and it's other cross-pond kin seem awfully superior in many ways to what evolved here--probably due to differing evolutionary pressures at different times, in terms of the cost of utilities and water.
|Post# 503312 , Reply# 7   3/11/2011 at 13:59 (4,657 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)  || |
I would love to see the inside of this machine, the Aussie ones never got a soft food disposer. The filters in the Aussie ones grab everything and really are manual clean. It has a nice little plastic bucket with a grab handle that pops out to make it easy to do.
It must heat the water with its Sani wash/Rinse options, can you run a 900watt element with a motor at the same time on a standard US Circuit?
That wash system was the best thing going, right up until the first machines without the funnel on the upper rack appeared.
The 15 place setting capacity seems a little optimistic here they were sold as a maximum of 12 places.
I hope someone grabs it, as these really are a fantastic machine.
|Post# 503321 , Reply# 8   3/11/2011 at 14:34 (4,657 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)  || |
Brisnat, a 900 watt element plus motor should not cause a problem. Dishwashers here are usually connected to a 20 amp 120 volt circuit, with a full capacity of 2400 watts. The NEC limits the load to 80%, which is 1920 watts. This would allow slightly over 1000 watts for motor, etc.
|Post# 503331 , Reply# 9   3/11/2011 at 15:28 (4,657 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)  || |
|Post# 510137 , Reply# 10   4/8/2011 at 02:15 (4,629 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)  || |
It's back again. And (down to?) $75.
Looks like they're having as much trouble unloading this machine as I did trying to pass along the refurbished 25 year-old Thermador THD 3600, which still sits in my garage.
Does anyone know if the black panels can be switched out for stainless? Here's a shot of the interior, which may not have been included in the previous CL listing for this machine last month.
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|Post# 510549 , Reply# 11   4/10/2011 at 06:29 (4,627 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)  || |
On the early 80's models yes, on these, no. Panels are not interchangable with anything.
See if you can talk them down further, these machines will clean anything.
|Post# 510651 , Reply# 12   4/10/2011 at 15:57 (4,627 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)  || |
If it can't be switched to stainless panels, that won't work for me. Plus, I think the stories about the control panels going out is enough for me to let somebody else have this machine.
The sellers are clearly having a hard time, so I wouldn't be surprised if the machine shows up at a Habitat Re-Store at some point.
|Post# 510658 , Reply# 13   4/10/2011 at 16:10 (4,627 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)  || |