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Post# 504472   3/16/2011 at 08:18 (4,640 days old) by autowash (st louis )        

Hey all, my Whirlpool dishwasher has recently just started doing a really poor job rinsing. When I run a load, there is all kinds of sediment on top of the glasses, and inside the door. It runs through all the cycles like it always has and sounds fine. Is there a filter or something to check? I have removed the lower spray arm and it looks clean and dont see anything else to look at.
Any ideas would be great.

Post# 504486 , Reply# 1   3/16/2011 at 09:44 (4,640 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN)        

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My KA starting doing that after the switch to phosphate-free detergents, especially when using Cascade's All-in-One pacs. I ended up doing four things:

1) Service call - found out the food disposer was about shot and gunked up, and got it replaced under extended warranty
2) Cleaning the DW with Dishwasher Magic (and less frequently Lemi-shine w/ an empty load)
3) Switching back to the Finish Quantum Powerball pacs
4) Adding 1/2 tsp to STPP to the prewash and wash cups with each load

That being said, there's still one spot in the back right of the upper rack that still seems to leave more crumbles, but that's about the only issue we have now. You could always try 2-4 first and see if that helps, if there's nothing obvious to clean, since those are cheap options to try. In the absence of pure STPP you could get some Glass Magic (in the tiny blue box) which is about 20+% phosphates and may tell if that's an issue.

Post# 504619 , Reply# 2   3/16/2011 at 19:12 (4,639 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Please everyone when you post a question like this tell us what the model # of the machine is or a picture or a little to go on. Thanks

Post# 504634 , Reply# 3   3/16/2011 at 20:28 (4,639 days old) by gr81nknox ()        

Is it one of the new "resource saver" high efficiency models? If so, these have a filter which manually has to be cleaned periodically based on usage patterns. Very similar to the filter in the Bosch dishwashers that has to be cleaned from time to time.

On a related note, does anyone know if this means that these newer Whirlpool HE machines do not have a hard food chopper like the Power Clean and Point Voyager(tall-tub) units do?

Post# 504646 , Reply# 4   3/16/2011 at 21:52 (4,639 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Any resource saver/he WP produced dishwasher has the filter and no soft food chopper, that's why there's the filter like on Bosch dishwashers. 

Post# 504699 , Reply# 5   3/17/2011 at 06:02 (4,639 days old) by retro-man (- boston,ma)        

i had the same problem about 2 months ago. sorry can't find the thread, but i ran an empty load with about 1 cup of bleach through the rinse hold cycle, then 3 more rinse holds. it pretty much got all that crap out of the machine. it was also advised to wipe the bottom of the inside of the door where apparently alot of this accumulates. I also found that my rinse agent was empty. refilled and turned the dial up to 2 for it since using non phosphate detergent. problem has been solved. hope this helps you

Post# 505912 , Reply# 6   3/22/2011 at 17:18 (4,633 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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There is a spot in my Whirlpool DW that doesn't clean. It's the extreme top rack left closest to the door. If I put a short coffee cup there it's fine. But a tall glass is always left with something in it. Strange.

About once a month run an empty (longest hottest) cycle with a cup of white vinegar in the main wash.

I use STPP as well............Although STPP is great. I don't think it's equivalent to the Dishwasher powders before they started taking phosphates out.

There's still something missing.

I use Cascade Complete Powder with STPP

Post# 507106 , Reply# 7   3/26/2011 at 22:07 (4,629 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Mark, Magic Clean has suggested in the past to not put tall glasses in the four outer edge corners but short mugs and such.  I always put mugs and such on the outer rows (allows me to use the cup shelfs for long handled items) and only put glasses in the row next to the center row on either side.  Have never had cleaning issues.  And if I have to use the outer rows for glasses, then I'll put mugs or short glasses in the four outer corner.  No problems ever. 

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