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Bendix 7133 Autowasher Deluxe Electronic |
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Post# 505400   3/20/2011 at 14:52 (4,778 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Hi folks,
Most of you know i moved house in January and now have the ability to use the machines Paul and myself have collected over the past 3 years. Had the hotpoint 95620 initially in use for 8 weeks but after a hopefully minor hiccup its been temporarily retired until I can look at it. So after a week of a Creda Debonair/Concorde style Electra and a week of a Siemens Extraclasse (both of which we do not have a dryer to match) we decided to use the bendix machines we had never used since getting. so here it is, Bendix 7133 made in January 1984 - actually 7 months older than me!!! 800/500 spin, Induction motor and one of the most powerful pumps I have ever seen on a machine. Quiet reliability. |
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Post# 505403 , Reply# 1   3/20/2011 at 14:53 (4,778 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Post# 505404 , Reply# 2   3/20/2011 at 14:54 (4,778 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Post# 505405 , Reply# 3   3/20/2011 at 14:55 (4,778 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Post# 505406 , Reply# 4   3/20/2011 at 14:56 (4,778 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Post# 505408 , Reply# 5   3/20/2011 at 14:57 (4,778 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Post# 505409 , Reply# 6   3/20/2011 at 14:58 (4,778 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Post# 505410 , Reply# 7   3/20/2011 at 14:59 (4,778 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Post# 505411 , Reply# 8   3/20/2011 at 15:00 (4,778 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Post# 505412 , Reply# 9   3/20/2011 at 15:02 (4,778 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 505413 , Reply# 10   3/20/2011 at 15:02 (4,778 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Post# 505419 , Reply# 12   3/20/2011 at 16:01 (4,778 days old) by dj-gabriele ()   |   | |
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What a couple of neat machines! I hope they will serve you well for many years to come :) How fast does the machine spin? Is the drum the classic Philco-Bendix design? |
Post# 505427 , Reply# 13   3/20/2011 at 16:50 (4,778 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Post# 505463 , Reply# 15   3/20/2011 at 19:28 (4,778 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Alex,
the programme dial has me stumped at the minute. That 70deg cotton wash had us going for a good while wondering if the timer was sticking and ultimately broken. Now we cant be 100% sure but we retracked our time back to when i first switched it on and it had only prgressed 3 clicks into the cycle some 100 minutes later. I panicked and thought the timer was broken so nudged it on 1 click. The rest of the wash portion took only 15 minutes after. SO with heavy heart did the next load on a 50 deg Synthetics cycle which did the usual 50 minutes cycle in total that most machines of that era did. The following Wool wash progressed in 40 minutes start to finish, So this morning I set up a 50 degree cotton wash which progressed normally with a 40 minute wash and 40 minutes of rinsing. not bad timing to be fair and the timer didnt stick at all. SO I wonder if its intelligent enough to add extra time to lower temp washes below regualr ITCL temps. i.e instead of dialing whites at 90 you were to dial 80 or 70 it adds extra wash time? Same as dialing 50 degs instead of 60 and 30/no heater instead of 40* etc etc. Im not so sure if that makes sense to you but im not sure about the whole thing myself. Will do a 90degs wash and see whathappens in the week, perhaps may be quicker than 70degs. Who knows? Best asking Mike about the square door version - cant say I remember much about its programming but im sure its intelligent enough to use minimum - maximum wash times. |
Post# 505478 , Reply# 16   3/20/2011 at 20:23 (4,778 days old) by sudsreturn ()   |   | |
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My mates mum had one of these for years. I always remember Philco doing a version too. I remember they were advertised on TV as being very quiet in operation, and they were! |
Post# 505614 , Reply# 19   3/21/2011 at 14:19 (4,777 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Hiya guys. Posted another vid - onto the longer tumbles... CLICK HERE TO GO TO matchboxpaul's LINK |
Post# 505624 , Reply# 21   3/21/2011 at 14:52 (4,777 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove)   |   | |
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Post# 505627 , Reply# 22   3/21/2011 at 14:54 (4,777 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove)   |   | |
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Post# 505645 , Reply# 23   3/21/2011 at 16:05 (4,777 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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These were also available in Canada back in the 80's. It was my first set that I bought. They had different names...Kelvinator, White Westinghouse, Viking (as in Eatons department store), and also Philco.
I miss my set. It was sold along with a house years ago. Love to get another set! Thanks for the vids and memory! Guy |
Post# 505696 , Reply# 24   3/21/2011 at 18:56 (4,777 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Look great there boys, they are beautiful sets, and so quiet with those big induction motors, now please keep the "Boil Washes" to a minimum although I see we arnt using Ariel so perhaps...Hhmmm
Rob try advancing the time a bit further on when selecting programme 1,2 or 5...it looks like its at the very start, so it might be slightly out of alignment and not quite engaging... How quick is the dryer after the hotpoint...probably difficult to answer that with the 800rpm spin... Happy washing!!! |
Post# 505907 , Reply# 25   3/22/2011 at 16:23 (4,776 days old) by reversomatic (east anglia,england,u.k.)   |   | |
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Hi all,i am pleased to see the Bendix doing what it was made for.As for the history of the washer before you got it from me, all i can tell you is that i got it for a relative,from the trade in pile at work about 16 years ago.The relative not being quite the full shilling didnt use the washer and still took his washing to his brother to be done,so washer stood unused in his kitchen for 16 years untill last year when he had to go into a care home and his house contents had to be cleared and i got the washer back.As for the programe timer,they were quite advanced for their day.The timer will only work correctly if the previous programe was completed and not cut short or advanced manualy so that sub interval cams are in the correct place.Also the programe selector must be at the blank line before the the required programe number for it to work correctly as the first cam position is the prefill,to fill the sump prior to flushing the detergent.Which is what most current machines do today,so they were ahead of their time.The pump should be powerful at 95 watts compared to most machine pumps now being about only 30 watts.Anyway its nice to see it paired up with its matching dryer and glad to see it in use.I have new project at the moment which now the weather has warmed up a bit i can get on with and i will post some photos soon ,Its an AEG Bella 1002 ,something a bit diferent .Take care,regards Nige.
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Post# 506101 , Reply# 29   3/23/2011 at 08:53 (4,776 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Hello Nige
Was the timer unique to this model then?? Because on the earlier Philco / Bendix / Cyclotrons if you selected the "Cottons" progs equiv to 1,2 or 5 then you could advance the timer portion to long or shorten the "TIME" element... Also, I cannot imagine every customer would have aligned to the line every time you programmed it, in which case if you missed CAM3 for PREFILL and hit CAM 4 or 5 then would it just fill flushing the powder drawer straight away!! I sold tons of these and never heard of any issue with people complaining (Back to us anyway) that programmes where not completing correctly because of not aligning straight to the line!! Will be interested to see if Robs issue is more likely to be an incomplete programme or programme not completed then?? Lovely machines, now I want to see a pic side by side...(Coughs... Ahem!!) |
Post# 506188 , Reply# 30   3/23/2011 at 16:33 (4,775 days old) by reversomatic (east anglia,england,u.k.)   |   | |
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Hi Mike and all,yes if the user did not exac
tly line up the programe dial with the the programe number it would not work correctly .If you look at timer chart, link kindly supplied by Tom. it shows prefill only occurs on cam positioins 3,25,43. So one cam position would make a difference ,but the only people that would notice is people like us.Wash times were just influenced by water temprature,there is a holding solenoid in the timer which locks the timer from advancing untill selected water temprature is reached,higher the temprature longer the wash.Hi Paul, would like to see any info you have on the AEG Bella 1002 washer as im still learning about the the way it works.Very powerful bit of kit ,can cope with a load from a standing start to a 1000rpm spin.It draws over 1000watts on spin,none of this fancy load balancing stuff.Anyway keep on washing Regards Nige. |
Post# 506235 , Reply# 32   3/23/2011 at 20:02 (4,775 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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They look so impressive stacked together in pairs. Amazing fill level on the wash, even my 1956 Bendix doesn't fill half way up the glass.
With your picture of the backplate I was able to find Philco International, didn't even know they existed or were still in business! They make a large array of machines. Does anyone know where they manufacture nowadays? CLICK HERE TO GO TO jetcone's LINK |
Post# 506372 , Reply# 33   3/24/2011 at 02:11 (4,775 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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I had never made the connection about the "History" of what I knew of the older company as "Philco-Ford" and those amazing Cyclotrons!!! Thanks Jon for posting the link, alas like a lot of companies these days "All Great But In Name Only!!!
History from Jons link: "Philco’s roots date back to 1892 when the Heilos Electric Company was founded in Philadelphia. Its primary product then was the storage battery, and in 1906 the company changed its name to the Philadelphia Storage Battery Company and adopted the abbreviated name Philco. Its history as an exporter goes back as far back as 1916 when it began exporting Philco batteries to Great Britain and Latin America under the Philco trademark. Several significant dates and events marked Philco’s place in the appliance industry. Here are some of them: 1920’s and 1930’s: Business expanded so rapidly that subsidiaries were established and production licenses issued around the world. Argentina, Canada and Great Britain became productive extensions of the Philco name. Philco became famous for that period included the first hermetically sealed room air conditioner and the use of foam in refrigerator insulation. 1940: Company name is officially changed to Philco Corporation. 1943: Philco International Company is established and begins direct export selling. 1951: Introduced two-door refrigerator/freezer with fully automatic defrosting. 1954: Philco purchases two pioneer appliance brands, Bendix and Crosley. This adds a laundry line and more advanced refrigerator design. 1957: Introduced space-saving washer/dryer. 1958: Philco Italia is established. 1961: Philco becomes subsidiary of Ford Motor Company. 1973: Introduced one-piece molded plastic refrigerator liner, Cold Guard. 1977: Philco International is purchased by White Consolidated Industries. 1986: WCI purchase by AB Electrolux of Sweden. 1988: Philco International sales office moves to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 1996: All U.S. manufacturing facilities are ISO9000 certified. 1998: Introduced the AquaPure Ice & Water Filtration System in side-by-side refrigerators. |
Post# 507018 , Reply# 34   3/26/2011 at 15:36 (4,772 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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One week on and all is well, the wash times have settled to those in the service info - I think the fact i cut short a rinse and spin when i installed the machine had something to do with the longer wash initially.
It now does the 30 minutes timed wash after temp is reached. Thanks Tom for posting this. Wont be swapping it out for a while now, Im not bored yet lol. |
Post# 507052 , Reply# 35   3/26/2011 at 17:37 (4,772 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)   |   | |
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Glad the info was useful Rob. I have found the exploded parts diagrams for you, they are in the link below. Tom. CLICK HERE TO GO TO hotpoint9534's LINK |
Post# 507152 , Reply# 36   3/27/2011 at 03:42 (4,772 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Cheers for the link Tom. Have saved the info to my computer, should me and rob require it for reference. Paul |
Post# 507155 , Reply# 37   3/27/2011 at 03:47 (4,772 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Post# 507651 , Reply# 39   3/28/2011 at 15:07 (4,770 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Those are handsome machines stacked, my favorites of the European brands of this time period are the Hoovers, but Bendix runs a very close second.
Looks like present-day Philco should consult some of the people here for the correct information to use in that time-line. I suppose accuracy isn't questioned by the average consumer that is only looking for longevity of existence. |
Post# 510769 , Reply# 42   4/11/2011 at 01:53 (4,757 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Had a visit over to Robs at the weekend with Matchboxpaul & LavamatJon and chance to put the Bendix Home Laundry Centre through its paces, had forgotten how quiet they are, and efficient...the washer has a really robust turnover and drum rythmn, with its big induction motor it certainly had no trouble reversing and rolling the clothes over, used the 60d cottons programme and all done in 50 mins...
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Post# 510770 , Reply# 43   4/11/2011 at 01:56 (4,757 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 513442 , Reply# 44   4/24/2011 at 16:48 (4,743 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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