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Post# 507657   3/28/2011 at 15:44 (4,749 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)        

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I just found and purchased a new old stock Maytag E2LP. The paper is still on the wringer rolls and everything. I haven't decided if I should use it or just keep it (kind of exciting to think of getting to use a brand new one, but also neat to have a mint, never used one)...any thoughts or suggestions? I am wondering if I do decide to use it...should I do anything with the tub seal before putting water in the tub? I'm afraid of water leaking into the transmission if the seal has hardened or something. It's a 1983 model that was ordered by a store and never sold.




Post# 507695 , Reply# 1   3/28/2011 at 17:08 (4,749 days old) by washernoob ()        

Well first of all.... you have to post pictures! :D

Congrats on your fantastic find....


Honestly even if its new, I personally would get bored with it if I couldn't use it! I probably would never wash a full load of major clothes in it. Just light shirts or something.


Post# 507728 , Reply# 2   3/28/2011 at 18:50 (4,749 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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You should use it, fill it up with some hot water and detergent to protect it from corrosion damage  and use it. The seals will be fine the belt may have a slight flat spot but will probably be OK after it runs a while. The rubber parts will deteriorate more if not used, rubber parts need flexing to last as long as possible. Enjoy and these are very sturdy machines don't baby it.


Post# 507834 , Reply# 3   3/29/2011 at 06:46 (4,748 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

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When that machine was new, a Maytag wringer actually cost more than an automatic machine.  The reasoning was that these were considered a special order item.  That was the case when my mother-in-law bought her last wringer (Model E2LS) in 1981 from Wausau Furniture Co.  Your 1983 machine should be a Model E2LPS.  The "S" signifies that it came with a little rubber ball on the end of a piece of tubing that activates the wringer with air pressure.  You can bypass this by removing the tubing, and placing a bolt in the hole where the tube attaches to the machine.

 

I picked up a Model J2 (red trim) yesterday, and will post the serial no. later to decode its manufacture date. 


Post# 507838 , Reply# 4   3/29/2011 at 07:11 (4,748 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Yeah...I think I'll probably use it. Thanks very much for the info about the seals! I'll post a picture or two soon. Yes - it's an E2LPS...the rubber ball at the end of the tube is cracked, though, so it will be an E2LP soon... I also have a red trim J2L, Polkanut...it's just like the one my both my grandmothers had - made in Feb 1964. I have that list of serial numbers and dates if you would like a copy.

Post# 507855 , Reply# 5   3/29/2011 at 08:55 (4,748 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        
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Could you please send me the serial no. & date list via the AW.org email system?  I would greatly appreciate it, thanks.  When we brought my mother-in-laws machine home (2001), the rubber ball was completely disintegrated from sitting down in a damp basement.  At that time I was able to order the ball and hose, but it did take awhile, so they are probably NLA now. 


Post# 507901 , Reply# 6   3/29/2011 at 11:32 (4,748 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Tim,

I sent the list to the email you have listed in your information here. (tab301@charter.net). I don't know how to work the email on AW.org, I guess...sorry.


Post# 507909 , Reply# 7   3/29/2011 at 12:05 (4,748 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Tim, serial numbers for Maytag wringers can be funny.

Right now the dates are fuzzy in my head, but sometime in 1954/1955 Maytag went to the 123456XX style serial number on all Newton production products, including wringers. Prior to that date, only the automatic washers and dryers followed what we consider to be a normal Maytag serial number.

Prior to that date, wringers used a X123456X style serial number, which requires decoding sheets depending on what model the serial number came from, E, J, N, E2, J2, or N2.

If your mother-in-law's Maytag uses the earlier numbering convention, let me know and I'll see if I can dig up the papers on the earlier serial numbers.

Ted - congrats on the NIB Maytag! As John said - just use it. The belt might be flat but otherwise vintage appliances are just like collector cars. They need to be used/driven periodically in order for the rubber to not dry out.

Ben


Post# 507911 , Reply# 8   3/29/2011 at 12:19 (4,748 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Thanks very much, Ben! The decoding information I have says that the 123456XX started in 1949 and then changed somewhat in 1966. I don't know for sure that it's right, but I did get it from a retired Maytag repairman.

Post# 507913 , Reply# 9   3/29/2011 at 12:25 (4,748 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Ben...sorry...the information I have is from 1949 and on with automatics and 1954 and on with wringers.

Post# 507944 , Reply# 10   3/29/2011 at 15:21 (4,748 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Would love to see some pics! A video camera, whether analog or digital, would be a must to commemorate its first wash.

Post# 507975 , Reply# 11   3/29/2011 at 17:44 (4,748 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        
Ben,

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I foolishly sold my MIL's E2LS in Feb. 2002, before I knew about AW.org.  She bought it in 1981.  Thanks to Ted "Mr. Maytag" I discovered that my J2L was built May 1962.  I found it on the Wausau CL for $60.  The serial no. is 50766RJ.  I plan on keeping this machine for quite sometime, unless a reasonable E2L comes along.


Post# 508014 , Reply# 12   3/29/2011 at 19:55 (4,748 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
I plan on keeping this machine for quite sometime, unless a

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You may want to keep the J2L in addition to the E2L since one must be careful what detergents and additives are used in the E2L, in order to prevent damage to the stainless liner. That's not an issue or concern with the porcelain lined J2L or N2L models.

Post# 508026 , Reply# 13   3/29/2011 at 20:13 (4,748 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Note the tub in your machine is aluminum not Stainless Steel, be sure you rinse the machine out after you drain the soapy wash water and it will be fine, it will not corrode in the time you are washing clothes.


Post# 508133 , Reply# 14   3/30/2011 at 06:40 (4,747 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        
Dan,

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Thanks for the advice regarding the use and care of the aluminum tub.


Post# 508635 , Reply# 15   4/1/2011 at 16:54 (4,745 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

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Well I've come to the conclusion that practically nothing can kill a Maytag wringer washer.  I gave my recently acquired J2L a little bit of a workout today by doing 2 sets of bed linens.  Now mind you, this machine I was told hadn't been used for at least 15 years.  After a little bit of work cleaning it up, and a little trouble at first getting the rollers to lock together, all is well.  I washed each load for 8 minutes using Ariel w/ Oxianillos, Bluette, and ammonia, wrung them out, and refilled the washer for the 3 minute rinse for each load using some Fluffy Apple Scent, courtesy of Mattywashboy.  Each load came out sparkling Maytag clean thanks to the famous Gyrafoam washing action.  Gotta love them wringers made in Newton, IA!


Post# 509087 , Reply# 16   4/3/2011 at 21:42 (4,742 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Here's a picture of the washer:

Post# 509088 , Reply# 17   4/3/2011 at 21:43 (4,742 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)        

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...and one of the tub:

Post# 509094 , Reply# 18   4/3/2011 at 22:13 (4,742 days old) by washernoob ()        

That is PRISTINE! HOLY MOLY!

What a find. You are so lucky!
That is definitely my favorite color combo for E2 machines.


Post# 509107 , Reply# 19   4/4/2011 at 00:17 (4,742 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
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That is a genuine score! Absolutely awesome. I see your quandry about running it but I do think she deserves to 'strut her stuff' at least once. Dan's right. Video is a MUST during her maiden wash.

Tim, I think that wringers are hard to kill, as well. My E2LP was sitting dormant in a barn for a couple of decades before I found her. Cleaned her up, plugged in and crossed my fingers... No worries! I included a link to the thread as our own Geoff Delp among others left some really useful info on use and care of E2L tubs. As it was said to me before, welcome to the conventional washer club...

RCD


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Post# 509114 , Reply# 20   4/4/2011 at 01:20 (4,742 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
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Beautiful, now if I could only find a 1957 Bendix set in green with the stickers still on them...............


Post# 509137 , Reply# 21   4/4/2011 at 07:19 (4,742 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        
Ted,

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I have to agree with everyone else so far, that beauty needs to be used at least once so it can show you how good a Maytag wringer washes.  In what shape is the little rubber ball that you step on to activate the rollers?  You can put a screw in the hole where the air hose attaches to the machine to override that rubber ball contraption.

 

Drew, the J2L I have now is actually the 3rd Maytag wringer I've owned.  The 1st was my late mother-in-laws machine, the 2nd belonged to my wife's uncle, and both were E2L's, with gravity drain.  I foolishly sold both of them (more like gave them away).  I'm not going to let the same thing happen now.  I love the thorough, but yet gentle Gyrafoam washing action.  I prefer gravity drain machines because with no pump to deal with, it makes for one less thing to go wrong. 


Post# 509152 , Reply# 22   4/4/2011 at 09:49 (4,742 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Thank you for the nice comments, everyone! Yes...I'll use it pretty soon. I'm going put a couple coats of wax the skirt to protect it before I use it. I can't just let it sit there forever! Tim, actually, the rubber ball is gone - just the tube and contraption that screws into where the 90 degree drive for the wringer is on the leg has survived...it's the only thing that was "wrong" with the machine. There's already a 1/2" bolt in it.

I also have a J2L, Tim. I like it a lot - nice and quiet and fun to use. I had a PINK February 1966 (with aqua release bar) E2LP from my great aunt, but I foolishly let go of it. It was in good condition and was nice and clean. I doubt I'll ever find another. I also have a 1976 E2LS in excellent cosmetic condition, but the agitator was evidently never removed...and when I finally got it out, the center was corroded away and the spring shot out of the center seal. I'm going to save a few parts off of it, but it's headed for appliance recycling at the end of the month. Terrible shame - it's a nice looking machine.


Post# 509237 , Reply# 23   4/4/2011 at 14:34 (4,742 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

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Definitely salvage as much as you can before getting rid of it.  Things like the rollers, motor, agitator, etc. are fast becoming NLA.  That rubber ball contraption was a POS in the first place, good riddance to bad rubbish! 


Post# 509275 , Reply# 24   4/4/2011 at 18:52 (4,742 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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I'm going to save a few parts off of it, but it's headed for appliance recycling at the end of the month. Terrible shame - it's a nice looking machine.

If you don't mind getting a little dirty and venturing into the unknown, you can probably get all of the parts you need from this guy.



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Post# 509279 , Reply# 25   4/4/2011 at 19:08 (4,742 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
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It's gorgeous. How often will we see a view like that--brand new pristine never used mint NIB showroom floor, what else? And the Cadillac, no less.

 

Me, I could not resist using it.

 

Another AW.org Miracle.

 

Congrats, Ted, and OH, the Maytag Conventional pump--there is none better!


Post# 509281 , Reply# 26   4/4/2011 at 19:09 (4,742 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Thanks Dan. I have actually already emailed with that guy and he said to scrap it! I suppose someone who had a washer in poor cosmetic condition with a good transmission could combine the two.

Post# 509284 , Reply# 27   4/4/2011 at 19:15 (4,742 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)        

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It's true, Michael, and thanks! It's pretty thrilling to me...that's for sure! I never thought I'd see a brand new one like that in person, much less get the chance to have one myself.

Post# 509286 , Reply# 28   4/4/2011 at 19:20 (4,742 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
the center was corroded away and the spring shot out of the

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Are you referring to the center shaft? If so, I may be able to help you out.

I found a J2LP laying on its side a few months back in a newly landscaped area (along with a vintage gas stove from the 30's and some OLD bottles probably from the 20's) It has probably been there for over 40 years and is missing the agitator, wringer assembly, and motor. The trans and pump are still present and the center shaft is (very surprisingly) rust free. If I can get it off without destroying it, it's yours for free.


Post# 509291 , Reply# 29   4/4/2011 at 19:29 (4,742 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Dan... Actually, no...it's the transmission cover housing that is around the center shaft that is corroded away. I would need a whole new center plate.

Post# 509292 , Reply# 30   4/4/2011 at 19:40 (4,742 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)        

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And PS, Dan...thank you very much for the offer!

Post# 509307 , Reply# 31   4/4/2011 at 20:44 (4,741 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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I'm late to the party (as always), but never-the-less, you have a beautiful Maytag! Congrats on a wonderful find. What is the serial number on this again?

Would love to see a shot with the agitator off. The center plate and bolts should still have factory dust on them!

Ben


Post# 509855 , Reply# 32   4/6/2011 at 22:07 (4,739 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Here's a picture of the inside without the agitator in it for you, Ben. The serial number is 296786LT. According to the list I have, it was manufactured in October 1983.

Post# 787529 , Reply# 33   10/5/2014 at 20:32 (3,461 days old) by DWLaurie ()        
A little Serial Number/Aging help?

I just acquired an E2LP from my elderly neighbor. She's approximately 85 and she says it was her mother's machine. Everything I have read so far tells me that it was built between '69 and '83, but I can't find a date chart for this Serial Number. A little help please? Thanks, Guys!

Model E2LS
Ser. No. 001624


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