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| Post# 509800 , Reply# 1 4/6/2011 at 19:45 (4,378 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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What is special about this box? 
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| Post# 509801 , Reply# 2 4/6/2011 at 19:50 (4,378 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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What is this device? What does it do? 
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| Post# 509805 , Reply# 3 4/6/2011 at 19:52 (4,378 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Here is front of the unit. What is this device? Think industrial Machine Controls. 
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Post# 509807 , Reply# 4 4/6/2011 at 20:04 (4,378 days old) by Pulsator  (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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Post# 509824 , Reply# 6 4/6/2011 at 20:55 (4,378 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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FAST SPINNING WP BD WASHER Melvin be careful back around the time WP brought out the Calypso washer a WP engeneer told us about experments they did with DD washers to see how fast they could get them to spin. When they reached around 1000 RPMS the wash baskets would dissinergrate in a deadly way. See exploding Candy washers.
As I may have mentioned I modified my 1971 LK washer to spin at 700 RPMs when I rebuilt it 20+ years ago, and even for this I added extra bearings and reinforced the base plate. And the machine still walks badly if the load is even slightly off-balanced. The suspension system on BD machines is not designed for much speed, it would also be better to start with a washer that has good bearings etc. Still this sounds very exciting be sure to do videos with sound and be careful. | ||
| Post# 510340 , Reply# 7 4/8/2011 at 23:07 (4,376 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Yes, John you are so right. I don't want this machine to fly apart, I'd surely have a bad day. | ||
| Post# 510341 , Reply# 8 4/8/2011 at 23:12 (4,376 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Oh and yes, those who want details of the electrical modifications can always send me an email. There I will disclose how to make it work. Here are more pictures of the AF-300. A small unit to operate a 1/2 hp 3 phase motor. 
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| Post# 510342 , Reply# 9 4/8/2011 at 23:14 (4,376 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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AF-300 nameplate 
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| Post# 510343 , Reply# 10 4/8/2011 at 23:16 (4,376 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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heatsink->I'll probably put a fan in the control box. 
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| Post# 510344 , Reply# 11 4/8/2011 at 23:17 (4,376 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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bottom 
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| Post# 510345 , Reply# 12 4/8/2011 at 23:18 (4,376 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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terminal layout 
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| Post# 510348 , Reply# 13 4/8/2011 at 23:21 (4,376 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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mounting the control box I've drilled holes through the back panel to mount the control box to the machine. 
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| Post# 510350 , Reply# 14 4/8/2011 at 23:23 (4,376 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Control box mounted using 4x 1/4-28 bolts and nuts 
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| Post# 510352 , Reply# 15 4/8/2011 at 23:24 (4,376 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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| Post# 510353 , Reply# 16 4/8/2011 at 23:26 (4,376 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Machine right side up->looks good! 
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| Post# 510451 , Reply# 18 4/9/2011 at 15:37 (4,376 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
 That is very interesting work Melvin.. keep it going and the best of luck to you. The light bulb on the back is strange looking by far. So where is that GE Interface with the run & stop buttons going ? Boy Lights ,Varible Speed motor, now you have to come up with a new nomenclature for that machine !
Darren k | ||
| Post# 510502 , Reply# 19 4/9/2011 at 20:52 (4,375 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Hi Darren! The GE AF-300 goes in the control box, there is not enough space in the machine for it and all of the wiring and other required components Control box now empty-> time to equip it! 
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| Post# 510504 , Reply# 20 4/9/2011 at 20:54 (4,375 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Previous components have been removed from the panel for mapping of new components. 
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| Post# 510507 , Reply# 21 4/9/2011 at 20:56 (4,375 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Oh Pewee!!...Where ya been son? It's been a minute! You still mad at me? 
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| Post# 510508 , Reply# 22 4/9/2011 at 20:58 (4,375 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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I desperately require your services...I think you'll like this job I have for you. 
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| Post# 510509 , Reply# 23 4/9/2011 at 21:03 (4,375 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Pewee is required for airflow as the AF-300 is cooled by air convection! 
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| Post# 510510 , Reply# 24 4/9/2011 at 21:06 (4,375 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Pewee GP! Pewee,AF-300, main power contactor mounted 
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| Post# 510511 , Reply# 25 4/9/2011 at 21:09 (4,375 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Panel in control box->for now->waiting for motor! 
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| Post# 511174 , Reply# 27 4/12/2011 at 23:39 (4,372 days old) by AutowasherFreak () | ||
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Interesting project indeed, I can't wait to see the final results.
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Post# 511183 , Reply# 28 4/13/2011 at 00:36 (4,372 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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| Post# 511718 , Reply# 30 4/15/2011 at 22:02 (4,369 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Could this be the motor? 
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| Post# 511720 , Reply# 31 4/15/2011 at 22:05 (4,369 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Not packaged in the wooden crate I'd hoped for. A WEG motor? 
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| Post# 511723 , Reply# 32 4/15/2011 at 22:11 (4,369 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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tisk tisk!! You can ALWAYS count on something going wrong! This motor does not have a c-face! 
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| Post# 511725 , Reply# 33 4/15/2011 at 22:15 (4,369 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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So it turns out the original motor has been discontinued by Elecktrim. The WEG is a substitute. Now, I have to change the front! 
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| Post# 511730 , Reply# 35 4/15/2011 at 23:47 (4,369 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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i'd try it since it's a two pole motor it might lack torque at low rpm-but only way to know if that is a factor is to mount it up and try it out with as small as a pulley as you can find. i repair motors and see a few wegs-actually one of the better foriegn motors avalible these days. Cool and interesting project BTW! | ||
| Post# 511804 , Reply# 37 4/16/2011 at 14:14 (4,369 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Well...It does work with AF300->no load. Before I mount it, have to change the front. Here is test video. CLICK HERE TO GO TO supremewhirlpol's LINK | ||
| Post# 512034 , Reply# 38 4/17/2011 at 20:59 (4,367 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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SO it's time to remove the original motor. 
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| Post# 512035 , Reply# 39 4/17/2011 at 21:00 (4,367 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Better move it far away, otherwise it will just confuse you! 
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| Post# 512037 , Reply# 40 4/17/2011 at 21:04 (4,367 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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After changing the front of the motor to a c-face->make holes in the motor brackets, adjust as needed. BAM!! He's mounted! 
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| Post# 512040 , Reply# 41 4/17/2011 at 21:06 (4,367 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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I still need to button up some things with the motor, like proper wiring, the junction box, etc. 
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| Post# 512041 , Reply# 42 4/17/2011 at 21:09 (4,367 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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It runs relatively quiet, doesn't vibrate the machine. Now need to get a pulley in metric units! cfz2882: Thank for your help! 
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| Post# 513224 , Reply# 43 4/23/2011 at 11:06 (4,362 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Apparently getting anything in the US to fit parts that are in metric units is a REAL pain in the lower back side! Had to get a pulley machined to fit the motor! | ||
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Post# 513346 , Reply# 44 4/24/2011 at 01:18 (4,361 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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It will be fascinating to see the 3450RPM motor function where a 1725RPM one would nomally be used-the VFD should take care of that!Will be very interesting to see how this extraordinary WP washer performs!Bet it could put the "spin" on the clothes as well as a good agitatin! | ||
| Post# 513799 , Reply# 46 4/26/2011 at 00:04 (4,359 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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The good and the bad... The good is that agitation is almost that of a DD machine given a new belt. The bad is no spin. Tub tries to engage but does not spin even with help. I suspect the spin tube and assembly needs replacing. | ||
| Post# 516433 , Reply# 47 5/8/2011 at 20:33 (4,346 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Spin tube stuck! Transmission comes out nice, spin tube not so... 
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| Post# 516434 , Reply# 48 5/8/2011 at 20:35 (4,346 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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This machine has been repaired before...Should have been sent to scrap 25 years ago! 
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| Post# 516435 , Reply# 49 5/8/2011 at 20:39 (4,346 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Think it's time to find a donor machine and send the innards of this one to scrap. Bearing must be ceased, it's impossible to get the spin tube out without damage to the tube on the baseplate 
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Post# 516500 , Reply# 50 5/9/2011 at 07:27 (4,346 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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GETTING A STUCK CLUTCH OUT Melvin There is an easy way to get that out all you have to do is call me. The WP BD machines are a little work to rebuild [ see post to Dave -87 ] but that blue machine is actually in very good shape for its age. But there are quite a few tricks that are not in the repair manuals to rebuilding old machines. | ||
| Post# 516553 , Reply# 51 5/9/2011 at 10:26 (4,346 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Melvin and John | ||
| Post# 516554 , Reply# 52 5/9/2011 at 10:32 (4,346 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Is there a way | ||
| Post# 516555 , Reply# 53 5/9/2011 at 10:33 (4,346 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
BD Portable | ||
| Post# 516559 , Reply# 54 5/9/2011 at 10:49 (4,346 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Hi Tim It's really cool-looking under there. Those springs are rubber coated, I think. and they look like minaturized tripods from the "machines" in the newer version of "War of the Worlds." When I first went down and under the WP, I gasped!
Filter on slow--Gentle cycle. Some BLUE for YOU, Melvin 
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