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Post# 510105   4/7/2011 at 22:22 (4,765 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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No idea how old it is, but it appears to be age appropriate for this forum.



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Post# 510152 , Reply# 1   4/8/2011 at 06:55 (4,765 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        
Holy High Speed, Batman!

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Halfway tempted to ask if you could take possession of it for me until shipping could be arranged..........

Lawrence


Post# 510264 , Reply# 2   4/8/2011 at 15:26 (4,765 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
What a neat dryer for only $50!

That is from 1958 with the R in the model number. The 820 series of machines did not have the control panel on pedestals, but the model number was in the line up from 1957 through 1969. Early on it was second from the top, then third. What you cannot see is that the back of the drum on this design was stationary and it had a rectangular opening for the heat inlet slightly above the center of the back with the heating element in a flattish duct behind the drum. That is part of the reason why the little grill in the door for the air stream is low and to the side. This dryer might have the rollers under the drum which drove and supported the drum. There is a felt seal between the stationary back and the revolving cylinder of the drum. The drum design changed in the model year 1959 to a one piece drum with a perforated back and the heating elements spread out behind that. There is literature from 1959 that shows both drum styles. Love that big wide door pedal, like the wide Power Brake pedals in cars of the time.

I really hope someone here gets this dryer.


Post# 510277 , Reply# 3   4/8/2011 at 16:05 (4,765 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Lawrence, I'd be happy to assist if you want to inquire about it.  I'll e-mail you in case you don't see this post.

 

Ralph


Post# 510282 , Reply# 4   4/8/2011 at 16:42 (4,765 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        

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I have called the seller about the dryer, and reached her voice mail. I will see if she returns my call.

Tom - interesting model number. I have a Use and Care Guide for the 1958 dryers and the console for the DA-820R does not look like this one. This one must be a mid-year model, later generation maybe.

Lawrence


Post# 510306 , Reply# 5   4/8/2011 at 18:40 (4,765 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I can't justify the model number with the control panel because I don't have a 58 manual, but the inner door is definitely old. From the picture, the control panel looks a lot like early 60s and if it were not for the R in the model number I would have guessed newer. GE ended the model year designation with Y in 1964 and began over with A in 1965.
If we could see the knob and dial better, it would be a help. On the other hand, 1958 was GE's year for the gray control panel on the TOL washer and dryer. I do have the manual for the 59 washers and pictures of the matching dryers and the control panel for the DA820S for 1959 looks just like this except that it is up on pedestals.


Post# 510323 , Reply# 6   4/8/2011 at 20:53 (4,764 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Tom, I'd sure love it if you'd scan and post that 1959 manual.

 

In 1958, GE's automatic washer/dryer line was evolving. At the beginning of the year, the WA850R/DA820R pair utilized the control panels from 1957's TOL's(with a similar model designation, as in 1958, the WA950R became the top of the line). So they removed the pedestals, took away the panel light, changed the color scheme from pink to dark blue and the first versions of the second-from-the-TOL looked like these with control dials on the LH sides, and the recycled escutcheons from the 1957 models:


Post# 510325 , Reply# 7   4/8/2011 at 20:56 (4,764 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Later on that year, either they ran out of 1957 control panel parts, or somebody just decided to revamp the look with a model that was going to be the "look" for quite a few years. Up to now, I'd assumed that the control panel was metallic gray as all pictures I've seen of these were B&W. But this dryer, just like the one Christy in PA sold to a member last year, has a dark blue finish with pink accents:


Post# 510326 , Reply# 8   4/8/2011 at 20:57 (4,764 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Either way, it's an interesting model and I hope you get it and tell us all about it with an extensive photo-essay.


Post# 510335 , Reply# 9   4/8/2011 at 21:35 (4,764 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Gee whiz.  That machine would look great across the laundry room from my '57 GE Combination.  Lawrence, it will look great if it ends up in the same room with your '58 GE Combo.


Post# 510388 , Reply# 10   4/9/2011 at 06:54 (4,764 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        

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Ken,
The one you show in the scan is the exact one. The lady told me it has a pink timer face and a pink "push to start" bar. So are you saying that you think it's a late 1957, or a 1958 model?

Ralph,
If you have an interest in the dryer (and it would compliment your Combination very nicely), I will be happy to let you keep it. According to the seller, it was owned by a elderly lady who is now 100 years old and has relocated to an assisted living facility and is giving up her home. Supposedly, this woman only used the dryer in the winter, preferring to line dry her laundry in summer/warm weather. So the dryer is in very nice condition.

BTW, the '58 Combination died about a month ago - the compressor gave up the ghost and it (the refrigerator) was replaced with a new model.

Lawrence


Post# 510404 , Reply# 11   4/9/2011 at 09:21 (4,764 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
I'm saying it's a late version of the 1958 model.

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GE did this for many years. They'd recycle parts and style pieces from the previous year's model line into the new year and then make small changes as the year went on and as they were preparing for the next year's model line. Smart practice. Who would know? Who would pay any attention to that?

 

An almost identical model to this one went to another member, bigted, I think,  earlier last year. It was exactly the same only in this version, the control panel was up on pedestals.


Post# 510425 , Reply# 12   4/9/2011 at 11:59 (4,764 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Lawrence, I sent you an e-mail just now.  I'm not interested in the dryer.  I'll call to arrange for pick-up with the seller if you are ready to proceed.

 

I have spoken with the seller and will be picking up the dryer for Lawrence hopefully later today.

 

Ralph




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Post# 510435 , Reply# 13   4/9/2011 at 13:00 (4,764 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        
Pedestals

That's a really nice dryer. I always like the look of the models with the pedestals, but some people didn't like them. Items could slip through the space and fall behind; therefore, some people removed the pedestals from their machines. Would have been nice if GE had put a strip of clear glass in the space as they did on the ranges with similar style control panels.

Post# 510466 , Reply# 14   4/9/2011 at 17:50 (4,764 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
I've Got It

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Picked up the dryer for Lawrence this afternoon.  It has rust issues with some of the chrome, including the lettering on the panel, but am thinking a good chrome polish may take care of a lot of it. 

 

The start tab is PINK!

 

Where is the drum light located on this thing?


Post# 510473 , Reply# 15   4/9/2011 at 18:40 (4,764 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

It should be located on the right side of the arched opening. It might just be burned out or the bulb might be missing. Being next to the top of the line, it should have one.

Post# 510671 , Reply# 16   4/10/2011 at 17:18 (4,763 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
Pictures

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Panel


Post# 510672 , Reply# 17   4/10/2011 at 17:19 (4,763 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Left


Post# 510673 , Reply# 18   4/10/2011 at 17:20 (4,763 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Center


Post# 510674 , Reply# 19   4/10/2011 at 17:21 (4,763 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Right


Post# 510675 , Reply# 20   4/10/2011 at 17:22 (4,763 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Door & drum (light lens barely visible)


Post# 510676 , Reply# 21   4/10/2011 at 17:23 (4,763 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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$


Post# 510678 , Reply# 22   4/10/2011 at 17:25 (4,763 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Magnetic, but probably not Alnico.


Post# 510679 , Reply# 23   4/10/2011 at 17:26 (4,763 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Door pedal needs work too . . .


Post# 510680 , Reply# 24   4/10/2011 at 17:29 (4,763 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I find it interesting a dryer of that age had about a 10 minute cooldown on the timed dry cycle.  Damp Dry designation was quite a few minutes into the timed dry cycle.  Tomturbomatic, I know you know quite a bit about these dryers.  I believe you've discussed the automatic sensing feature.  would you reexplain again, I vaguely remember it was pretty fascinating and unusual.  Also, it apears this dryer only had heat and air, no different temperature settings. 


Post# 510685 , Reply# 25   4/10/2011 at 17:54 (4,763 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

Wonder what caused the panel trim to rust as it did? I see the metal strip across the front looks shiny and new. Is it perhaps stainless steel? Other than the rust it looks great.

Post# 510696 , Reply# 26   4/10/2011 at 18:17 (4,763 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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The rust is a concern, but I'm hoping that with some patience, elbow grease and a good polishing compound it can be diminished. 

 

My guess is that this dryer spent its life either in a garage, a damp basement or service porch.


Post# 510703 , Reply# 27   4/10/2011 at 18:38 (4,763 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        

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Ralph,
I just left you a voice message. I assume those rusted places are chrome-plated items whereas the strip on the door is probably stainless steel. I hope with the aforementioned 'elbow grease' most of what we're seeing can be removed. Makes me wonder what it looks like inside the cabinet, though. Too bad it's not in the same condition as the earlier pictures of the model with pedestals!

I'll learn more after it makes its way to Atlanta.

BTW, Ralph, as they say "the check's in the mail".

Lawrence


Post# 510714 , Reply# 28   4/10/2011 at 19:17 (4,762 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The whole timed cycle could be for damp dry, the time setting depending on the degree of dampness desired. In the next year the 35 minute point in the cycle became the De-Wrinkle setting for Wash'n Wear with the 10 minute cool down and it would remain that way for decades.

The auto dry cycle was basic time-temperature auto dry.

The control panel, like the pedal, was stamped steel with paint and/or chrome. It did not hold up well in the moist environment in which this dryer lived. The little arrow at the 12 o'clock position above the timer dial is missing also.


Post# 510716 , Reply# 29   4/10/2011 at 19:33 (4,762 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Very true.

 

GE panels with chrome plating didn't fare so well near the sea; the salt humidity got to them. Easy to remove and repaint if that's your thing. If you want to spend the money you can even take the whole control panel to a place that rechromes car bumpers and then repaint the colored parts of the panel.

 

The pointer above the control dial for 1958 models t'werent but a small bar-shaped jewel for the same light bulb that illuminated the dial, to shine through. A very nice model. Am jealous but happy it has gone to a good home. Use it in good health. Just love that big pink toggle!


Post# 510719 , Reply# 30   4/10/2011 at 19:42 (4,762 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Ken, is that your '58 WA950R?

Post# 510736 , Reply# 31   4/10/2011 at 20:38 (4,762 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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I wish!


Post# 510970 , Reply# 32   4/12/2011 at 00:30 (4,761 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
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I gave the panel a quick dose of chrome polish.  On the label it claimed to remove rust.  It did, but this amount of rust isn't exactly within reason.  It may clean up further with more meticulous attention, but there will still be rust remaining regardless, and plenty of pitting.

 

Compare to shots posted above.

 

 

 


Post# 510971 , Reply# 33   4/12/2011 at 00:32 (4,761 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Center

 


Post# 510972 , Reply# 34   4/12/2011 at 00:33 (4,761 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I spent the least time on the timer area, and it shows.

 

 


Post# 510987 , Reply# 35   4/12/2011 at 05:44 (4,761 days old) by retro-man (- boston,ma)        

as a kid i remember we used to us regular coca cola on our bikes and to get rust off from the frame and fenders, it actually worked. possible to try this on the panels, i don't think it would harm the printing on the panel. another product you might try is a rust removing gel that you could get from the parts counter at you local car dealership. i had some rust on the bumper of my truck they cleaned it with this and no rust appeared after 8 years.
Jon


Post# 511025 , Reply# 36   4/12/2011 at 11:24 (4,761 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Thanks for the Coke and jelly tips.  I'll see what I can accomplish with those as well.  Presuming real sugar wasn't a key rust-removing ingredient in the Coke, in which case I'll have to pick up a bottle of Mexican Coke.  Only Coke right?  Not Pepsi?


Post# 511032 , Reply# 37   4/12/2011 at 11:50 (4,761 days old) by doug (West Virgina)        
Ge washer and dryer sketch

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I have always wondered how do u guys make those what looks like to be a own sketch of the washer and dryer. Thanks doug

Post# 511114 , Reply# 38   4/12/2011 at 19:16 (4,760 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

It's the acid in carbonated drinks that works on the rust; carbonic acid formed when carbon dioxide is dissolved in water. It's the same stuff that attacks marble outside in the rain.

Post# 511136 , Reply# 39   4/12/2011 at 21:33 (4,760 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Have a Coke and what's left of a smile

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Coca-Cola (and others) have been adding phosphoric acid to their soft drinks for decades to increase the amount of sugar (usually from corn) and make the drink more, uh, (addictive is such a nasty word) desirable. Phosphoric acid has a disastrous effect on human tooth enamel and isn't so hot for the kidneys either. If ever you doubt that fat cat corporations buy legality in the good ol' US of A, just sit back and enjoy the pause that refreshes.

 

I don't know if this is true with Pesach Kosher Coca-Cola which doesn't taste as sweet to me. I must admit I love the stuff but we were taught about the phosphoric acid content back in high school chemistry class in the '70's.


Post# 511207 , Reply# 40   4/13/2011 at 06:04 (4,760 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Are you saying they add acid so that it takes more sugar to make it taste sweet? When I went to school, they still used sugar in soft drinks. When I visited soft drink bottling plants with my father in the late 50s to very early 60s, you could always tell a clean plant from one with lax maintenance because if the sugary mess was allowed to "mellow" in places, instead of being cleaned daily, the whole bottling room took on a sour, fermentation-type of smell. In certain areas, that might have been a pleasant, familiar smell, but it was not one of cleanliness.

Post# 511977 , Reply# 41   4/17/2011 at 16:52 (4,756 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
Second Attempt

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After checking out naval jelly at the hardware store and seeing on the label that it shouldn't be used on chrome, I gave the panel another shot with the Turtle Wax chrome polish and a stiffer toothbrush.  There was a slight improvement that was indicated more by the fact that the polishing cream took on a brown tint than by the results once buffed it off. 

 

At this point I feel it's as good as it's going to get.  I might have it at 10-footer status by now.  Anything better than that will require re-chroming and re-painting.  The pitting looks much worse in the flash photo than it does to the naked eye, but regardless, the pitting is there and can't be corrected with polish, jelly, soda or anything else.


Post# 511979 , Reply# 42   4/17/2011 at 16:55 (4,756 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
But What's This?

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This strange item is inside the well for the lint screen and exhaust.  It's not stationary and seems to pivot from the bottom.  It can be moved to lay in the bottom of the well, or up and out of the way on the side.

 

Is it supposed to be there, or is it a weird foreign item that has gotten itself wedged into place?


Post# 511980 , Reply# 43   4/17/2011 at 16:57 (4,756 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Another shot


Post# 512004 , Reply# 44   4/17/2011 at 19:47 (4,755 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
STRANGE THING UNDER LINT FILTER

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The early years of this dryer design had a wire guard to keep socks out of the blower in case you tried to run the dryer with the filter removed. The problem was that the guard would get clogged and people would not know to check it and clean it, so it was removed from later production models.


Post# 512032 , Reply# 45   4/17/2011 at 20:57 (4,755 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Thanks John. 

 

When I found this guard, I also found a sock way down at the bottom.  I guess the thing did its job who knows how many years ago.

 

Ralph



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