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late 1970's to early 1980's Fedders Norge washers and alike brands
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Post# 85195   9/25/2005 at 21:35 (6,786 days old) by tbolt25 (Kentucky)        

I was wondering if anyone had a video of a late 1970's to early 1980's Norge by Fedders or a Montgomery Wards or an Admiral or a Western Auto Citation washer in operation. I have forgot how loud they were, and I would like to see a demonstration of how quickly the tub stops when you lift the lid during Spin and a washing-spinning demonstration as well.




Post# 87071 , Reply# 1   10/4/2005 at 21:43 (6,777 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        
Montgomery Ward Washer

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Hi,

I wish I had a video camera, I'd tape my 1975 Wards Signature washer in action!

Yes, it's loud, but it does a fantastic job. I love the burp-up filter, and of course the LOUD safety brake that stops that high-speed spin in seconds.

These machines seem to be under-rated on this website, Norge/Wards machines are a LOT of fun!



Post# 87101 , Reply# 2   10/5/2005 at 01:21 (6,777 days old) by pumper (SE Wisconsin)        
Hagatha?

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Get rid of her!!

Post# 87111 , Reply# 3   10/5/2005 at 05:09 (6,777 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
norge

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Even though they were quite corse when it came to washing and spinning,most of the Norges(and the brands they manufactured for)were real workhorses.They are now a bit different but still around(the new maytag top loaders are made in the old Norge factory and have the new transy with the air brake instead of the solenoid)and come with a stainless steel tub.The ones they make for Sears have the agitators with the flexible fins.The others don't.They also have the lid switch that can be fooled and allow you to watch it wash with the lid open.I still have customers come in to find them for sale and when I show the the Admiral or the Maytag they can't believe their eyes and buy them first sight.Those are customers who have had them anywhere from 10 to 20 years with few if any repairs."Knock on any Norge,Knock on any Norge,Hear the sound of silent quality,knock on any Norge.Years from now you'll be glad it's a Norge!"LOL

Post# 87115 , Reply# 4   10/5/2005 at 07:10 (6,777 days old) by agiflow ()        

My parents had an early seventies Fedders Norge washer and dryer-both 20 lb. capacity machines. Yes they were very loud machines but real workhorses.

That tall burpolator really got the clothes moving in that machine. I would say more of a back & forth motion if the load was large. Powerful agitation to say the least.

That machine lasted about 9 yrs. without any problems. I would take another one of those machines in a minute.


Post# 87152 , Reply# 5   10/5/2005 at 09:18 (6,776 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
It's What I'm Using!

Lot's of washers have passed through my laundry room this year.....
Frigidaire 3 ring agitator - washing turns into ropes...
Maytag 806 - Great washer but not very exciting...
Kenmore HE3T - gave it away...real POS...
Frigidaire Jet Action - Great washer but small capacity...
New Maytag Neptune TL - Really hard on the clothes...
Westinghouse Front Loader - one of the first White brands...
Lady Kenmore - ho hum.
Speed Queen - Nice & noisy but very little rollover...
And NOW THE FEDDERS NORGE!!!... It burps, farts, & bangs but washes a really big load of clothes with ease. Lot's of rollover! Mark


Post# 87171 , Reply# 6   10/5/2005 at 11:33 (6,776 days old) by jmirawm (Barling Arkansas)        
Drying Center

I am admiring your drying center (maytag?) that you have there. I have looked at these when I am out and they look very convienient to use. How do you like yours ? Tom

Post# 87175 , Reply# 7   10/5/2005 at 13:04 (6,776 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
....the drying center

Hi Tom! I really like it. I have some rugs drying in it as I write this. The upper cabinet is a nice feature as items (like my rugs) can be dried without the tumbling, saving on the backing and mess that it makes in the tumbler. The dryer is the Norge - Tragic Chef design. The Maytag Dependable Care dryer would have been a much better choice for the lower dryer, but Maytag went with the cheaper design. Still dries good though. Had a roller replaced within the first month. Other than that, no service calls. Mark

Post# 87195 , Reply# 8   10/5/2005 at 14:58 (6,776 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Oh Mark!!

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I can't wait for Robert to see this one!
"Frigidaire 3 ring agitator - washing turns into ropes... "

You're in for it now!

20 years ago I rebuilt two Norge machines a washer and a dryer which I really didn't want to sell at the time but they were sold to a friend who shipped them to the middle of the Pacific Ocean, some small island country there, and she used them for years and then sold them to someone else and last I heard they were still doing laundry!

Our laundromat in Chatham at the Shop Ahoy had these in Avocado and they were fun to watch and got the clothes really clean after a year of washing in our 1956 GE Filter Flo!


Post# 87202 , Reply# 9   10/5/2005 at 15:11 (6,776 days old) by agiflow ()        
lightedcontrols

Is that model the 20 lb. capacity version? I can not believe this--that looks like the exact washer my mother had except for the color. Looking at your machine brought back a flood of memories---very,very nice.

btw Mark,..if i remember correctly, there was a choice of 4 water levels: Reset, high, med, low, ex-low, 4 temp combinations and 3 speeds. Is this the same machine?

Pat


Post# 87222 , Reply# 10   10/5/2005 at 16:19 (6,776 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

I remember a Norge "Burpilator" as a small child-loved to watch it much to my Moms dismay.Managed to sneak peaks anyway-was so cool.It had the shiny metal lint pan.And that thing did collect some lint-miss it so much-the search for one like it goes on---sort of hopeless around here.It also had the big bladed agitator with the holes in the lower vanes.Its action was very powerful.sort of like the "forward-Reverse" of those old Vita-Mixes.Tooriginal bad they aren't still around today in that "Burpilator" form.

Post# 87247 , Reply# 11   10/5/2005 at 18:14 (6,776 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
control panel photos

Agiflow,
Here's some photos of the control panel. Hope this answers your questions and brings back memories. Mark


Post# 87248 , Reply# 12   10/5/2005 at 18:15 (6,776 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
the control panel

...other side of control panel

Post# 87256 , Reply# 13   10/5/2005 at 18:58 (6,776 days old) by agiflow ()        
lightedcontrols

Thanks...this is the machine she had. These were great washers then or now.

Post# 87260 , Reply# 14   10/5/2005 at 19:17 (6,776 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
This Washer

By the way, this washer was found in the woods and only needed a pump. I have been using it for about three months and really like how it washes those really big loads C L E A N ! ! ! Mark

Post# 87273 , Reply# 15   10/5/2005 at 20:06 (6,776 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

Now Mark,
You want us to beg don't you....
Why not show us your Norge Tub?
Nice machine! I remember them well.
Brent


Post# 87275 , Reply# 16   10/5/2005 at 20:15 (6,776 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

does the "Woods" washer have the burpilator?Looks like a very nice machine.

Post# 87384 , Reply# 17   10/6/2005 at 17:10 (6,775 days old) by tbolt25 (Kentucky)        
lightedcontrols' avacado Fedders Norge washer

Could you please post a good picture of the inside(agitator, tub, tub ring) of the avacado Fedders Norge washer you have lightedcontrols, I'd greatly appreciate that.

Post# 87430 , Reply# 18   10/6/2005 at 21:46 (6,775 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
.....here's the photos !!!

.....here's the tub photo

Post# 87431 , Reply# 19   10/6/2005 at 21:47 (6,775 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        

washing away!

Post# 87432 , Reply# 20   10/6/2005 at 21:49 (6,775 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
...burpilating!!!

another photo of the water spray...(sorry the photos aren't the best....it's not the camera...it's the photog) Mark

Post# 87433 , Reply# 21   10/6/2005 at 21:53 (6,775 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
filter pan

here's a filter pan shot....

Post# 87549 , Reply# 22   10/7/2005 at 18:00 (6,774 days old) by tbolt25 (Kentucky)        
neutral drain or spin-drain?

Did these particular washers have neutral drain or did they do a full spin-drain?

Post# 87552 , Reply# 23   10/7/2005 at 19:27 (6,774 days old) by westytoploader ()        
Norge Burpalator...how fun!

Great pictures Mark...thanks for sharing! This machine looks like LOADS OF FUN to use and I bet it cleans well too! I've never seen a 1970's Norge in action, but I played with the yellow 1959 at the Convention (one of two machines I actually washed my clothes in and the one I was constantly using) and it had incredible water action. When CR tested washers in their 1972 or 1974 report, they noted that the straight-vane agitator of the Norge cleaned better than the Roto-Swirl. How are the oil seals?

I'm pretty sure these did the neutral drain and then released the brake (with a BANG) when the water level was low enough...wasn't the tub ring designed to where you couldn't spin-drain or else the water would go all over the floor?


Post# 87568 , Reply# 24   10/7/2005 at 20:36 (6,774 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

The Norge definitely did a spin-drain. My friend had one of the last of the Tragic Chef machines and it spun and drained at the same time.

Was it only Whirlpool/KM that had neutral drains back then?


Post# 87576 , Reply# 25   10/7/2005 at 21:33 (6,774 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

Great Pictures Mark!
I love how they kept the bottom holes on the agitator to keep the burping working!
The tub looks huge!
Thanks for the photo's!
Brent


Post# 87618 , Reply# 26   10/8/2005 at 00:46 (6,774 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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If I am not mistaken, taking a couple Catalina machines I knew from the 1970s, there was a partial neutral drain, until the water level reset, then spin-drain for the remainder.

Post# 87719 , Reply# 27   10/8/2005 at 15:58 (6,773 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
Glenn is correct....

The machine partially drains and then spins. Once the water level drops, the water pressure switch disengages the spin brake and off it goes! You do have to be very careful with this machine as it does have an overflow tube that is just a little higher than the top of the washtub tub. I've run it over once, and so has Roanoke Robert. Mark

Post# 87724 , Reply# 28   10/8/2005 at 16:28 (6,773 days old) by bostonwash ()        
nice machine.

looks good as new.

What a quaint laundry area too. like that big window overlooking the yard. Love the Avacodo.

For having been "in the woods" the control panel looks to be in very good condition.


Post# 87801 , Reply# 29   10/9/2005 at 02:44 (6,773 days old) by knitwits1975 ()        

Is there some chance we might get to see some videos of the Norge? At least some spin-drain photos. Give us the full Fedders-Norge experience.

Post# 87802 , Reply# 30   10/9/2005 at 02:49 (6,773 days old) by knitwits1975 ()        

I do know of one other machine with a neutral drain beside Whirlpool/Kenmore. The compact GE pulsator machines. They only had one spin though.

Post# 87814 , Reply# 31   10/9/2005 at 06:03 (6,773 days old) by pulsator-power (connecticut)        
Wow

True, twisted ropes,
but great ones. How can you complain with a Frigidaire.

Love the Norge. What's that line from my favorite adult movie?
That's Sooooooo Nicccccccce!
Jerry


Post# 87815 , Reply# 32   10/9/2005 at 06:04 (6,773 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
NORGE

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Nice machine!

Mom's house had one when they bought it in 1973.
The 1966 Maytag got a much neeed rest till the Norge died, yes of an oil leak into the tub!

The model I was familiar with did not have a burpalator agitator, but raher a recirculating water outlet and filter at the rear of the tub.

It was also programmed with 8 cycles that adjusted the water temperature and the speeds.

cycles- wash temp-rinse temp-wash speed-rinse speed:

Prewash - cold cold normal normal
Whites 1- hot warm normal normal
Whites 2- hot cold normal normal
colorfast- warm cold normal normal
PP durable- warm cold normal slow
PP gentle- warm cold slow slow
cold wash- cold cold normal normal
siks, woolens, specials- warm warm slow normal

To customize simply change cycles after the first water fill!

Otehr than the huge BANGS of the tub brake engaging and disenegaging it was a great machine! Mechanically it was somewhat similar to a Maytag, with the belt below the base. IIRC the motor and pump were in the same location as the MT!





Post# 87823 , Reply# 33   10/9/2005 at 07:35 (6,773 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Put the Kelvinator in there next!

Steve


Post# 88130 , Reply# 34   10/10/2005 at 14:37 (6,771 days old) by bostonwash ()        
I just like that picture.

Its like fusion, melding the old with something VERY new, (the 2 story dryer). Even the room itself is a fusion. It looks like an older house with new windows. The view with mature trees but crisp white fence. The room itself looks like a converted bedroom.?

Post# 88131 , Reply# 35   10/10/2005 at 14:47 (6,771 days old) by bostonwash ()        
The matching dryer

I know what is so familiar about that washer, It is a matching white dryer. During "Big Junk pickup" week in our neighborhood someone put that dryer out. It must have been in 1980. I wanted the small temperature switch so I went home and got a screw driver and went back and proceeded to take the switch. I was like 12 then. I had no immediate need for the switch and its accompanied knob but I wanted it. I was nervous, I'd never done anything like take stuff from the curb. Half way through dismantling the console, which I had to bend back, I saw a little kid in the front window of the house yelling to their mother that there was someone out there. Nothing came of it though and I left with my prize.

Post# 88216 , Reply# 36   10/11/2005 at 03:13 (6,771 days old) by trok_99 ()        
2 experiences with norge fedders

2 machines, same era late 70's early 80's, both burbed..middle of line...both great machines...but huge differences

1) Montgomery Wards, 5 temps, infinite water levels, 3 cycles, normal, pp, delicate all on dial, all with up to 14 min wash time...1 min timer increments. Lid switch shut off everything...even fill. Spin drain sequence= wash>1 min pause>1 min neutral drain, when water level reset, spray rinse started with neutral drain>timer advanced to next increment, brake latch released with a clank, spray rinse continues threw this increment, tub almost up to full speed by end followed by 2 mins full spin>coast 1 min> followed by fill...tub still coasting> 1more min fill> brake engages clunk...til water level satisfied. On this machine brake solenoid noises were heard...more than brake activation unless u opened the cover during spin.
2)Magic Chef...vertually same machine as above but....acted more like a wp/km belt drive. lid switch only stopped spin. fills agitates drains ...lid open....lid open during spin actuates brake.....pump and timer still run. Nuetral drain is water level controled only...tub starts spinning as soon as water level is unsatisfied...similar spray rinse sequence as above.


Post# 88217 , Reply# 37   10/11/2005 at 03:17 (6,771 days old) by trok_99 ()        
2) magic chef

brake activates as son as fill starts for rinse ( loud clank) and at off..the MW would coast for 2 mins after final spin and the brake latch would engage with a solnoid clunk at off

Post# 88237 , Reply# 38   10/11/2005 at 09:19 (6,770 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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Wasn't it Jamie that got the NIB Bradford pair a while ago? They were Norges, right?

How about some pictures?

veg


Post# 89203 , Reply# 39   10/17/2005 at 01:11 (6,765 days old) by singsonglee ()        
Fedders Norge

Good pictures of the Fedders/Norge. I had a Montgomery Wards
model and like agiflow it was the best washer I have ever owned. Thanks to the 3/4 hp motor and a commercially proven transmission and the 202degree turbo sweep agitator. These washers were the best machines,work horses of the washer industry. We used to have yard sales and soled off the kid's
baby clothes and people would ask us how we got our clothes so clean and I said it was the Norge build washer. I also liked the dryers that they built also they were the first to have an 8 cubic foot drum and and 18inch steel fan in the back of the dryer which blew the air through the drum and pressureizing the drum. Let me tell you it would dry clothes
fast. Setting it for 30 mins. and your clothes were dried. I still wish that I had My Norge washer and dryer. Oh something else that needs to be said is that in addition to a Norge washer, you need to follow some simple rules to get a suprior wash and that is you have to wash whites like underwear and towels in hot water with a good deter. and once in a while use some chorline bleach, making sure that you rinse in warm water. Now for pp light colored clothes a warm water wash with a cold water rinse will be fine and also for dark colored clothes but use an all fabric bleach, (vided works about the best)and also never use liquid fabric softener
on towels as it will put a waxy coating and the towels will lose their absorbence.Thank you I am a big Norge fan if you can't tell. duh!


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Post# 89209 , Reply# 40   10/17/2005 at 03:11 (6,765 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Sounds like from reading these descriptions of the 3/4 Hp Norges that sounds like one really SUPER washer-Long agitation stroke--Non slotted bottom agitator vanes-just what I would be looking for besides my favorites WP and KN.Will have to check the swap shops and used appliance places here-I have asked on Norges-Wards before-but the operators of the swap shops give me a blank stare and say"we don't get those here"I was really looking for a "burpilator" version to recall the one my Mom had when I was little-that thing kept me entertained during her washdays.I can agree-the slotted or flex lower agitator "blades" act just as that-a cutting shredding tool.I used to have a Maytag where its lower vanes-the lower edges were SHARP-took a file and sandpaper and blunted them-less shredding of clothes.Maybe I should switch to a Norge!!They sound cool and effective.The Norge Dryer with the 18" blower sounds like you wouldn't need heat at all-the blast from that blower would be enough!!Thats bigger than the blower in my HVAC or even some of the transmitters I work on.

Post# 89407 , Reply# 41   10/18/2005 at 01:21 (6,764 days old) by singsonglee ()        
Norge Fedders

Something that I forgot to tell you guys is that my mom had a
MW washer and that is why I became a Norge fan I was working for Montgomery wards in the early 80's and our 1-18 Frigidaire
gave up the ghost and by then WCI had taken them over and it would have been hard to get parts. So I took mom and dad to Montgomery Ward at Turfland Mall in Lexington, Ky. and that Is where My mom got her first Norge built washer and the matching dryer. I loved that set and wanted some day when I got married to have a Norge built set. Well it just so happens that after me and my wife and we had moved to theDallas area where my folks had been transfered to and lived there for about 3 years mom got rid of her M/W dryer. We came down to the house and saw it out at the curb and said don't get rid of it we will take it and we did we even moved it back to Nebraska. Absolutelly loved that dryer wish I had it back. While we had lived in Texas we had purchased a M/W washer we loved it just as much and I will say it was by far the best washer we have every had. Oh by the way the washing instructions that I posted the other day goes for any washer and I forgot to mention that to get the best results from any detergent put it in at the bottom of the washer and then start the machine let it desolve out the soap and then put the clothes in before it fills up completly. This works with powders or liquids.


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Post# 89414 , Reply# 42   10/18/2005 at 06:22 (6,764 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The first design of the Norge dryers boasted a 21" fan and salesmen used to compare it to the 7" fan in the GE, But the shape was different. The GE had a very efficient squirrel cage fan while the Norge was a huge disc with the blades/louvers cut in near the edge. It was run by a belt, but the drum was roller driven. The STOP 'N DRY feature lifted the drum up and off the drum drive so that it did not revolve.

Post# 89610 , Reply# 43   10/19/2005 at 02:44 (6,763 days old) by singsonglee ()        
Norge Dryer

Thanks Tomturbomatic That it exactely the dryer that I had It had the Stop-N-Dry on it. I had to replace the cluch plate on it and also the motor and yes I did the repairs on it with the help of the next door neighbor Ray Bellar. Who went to that big laundry repair shop in the sky. He was a true friend.
This was when I lived in Tilden, Ne. from Sept. 1987 to April of 1990. The Stop-N-Dry had another feature which was a drying rack and if your evening news paper got soaked it could be dryed out in the dryer. Damn it I wish I still had that dryer. Dan


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Post# 89611 , Reply# 44   10/19/2005 at 03:00 (6,763 days old) by singsonglee ()        
Norge Dryer

Thanks Tomturbomatic that is exactly the dryer we had with the stop-n-dry it aslo came with a drying rack so you could dry sweater or the evening newspaper if it got wet. I had to put a new clutch assembly in it as I was taking off the durm to clean out the lint that collected in it and broke of the bolt in the hole so had to get a new one and just a short time after that the motor burned out in it so I had to put a new motor in it. It sure would dry clothes fast. Damn it I wish I had that dryer back. I was helped with the repairs by the next door neighbor Ray Bellar who has gone to that great loundry repair center in the sky. He was a very good friend.
This was when we lived in Tilden, Ne. from sept. 1987 to April 1990. Then we moved to Lexington, Ne. where I was working at I.B.P. plant. Hope this makes it on this time and that I dont have a repeat and the first message didn't post?


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Post# 90371 , Reply# 45   10/24/2005 at 02:13 (6,758 days old) by norgeman ()        
Lightedcontrols

The pictures of the tub of the Norge looks just like the Nontgomery Wards washer we had. We had purchased it in 1986 it was the last model that Norge had built before Maytag took them over and changed them out. Like I said before it was by far the best washer we have ever owned. On a amusing note when I worked at montgomery Wards we used to get there newspaper and one of the salesmen form one of the stores in the systen used to stand in it to show how tough it was. I think he was the top salesmam in the system. Seeing your Norge brings back memories of our Montgomery Ward Norge. I wish we still had it. Dan

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Post# 90389 , Reply# 46   10/24/2005 at 06:20 (6,758 days old) by agiflow ()        

As i stated earlier, this machine is the same as ours was.
What i didn't understand about this machine was that soak cycle. Why does it show soak when it is part of the regular wash cycle?

It is not a seperate cycle...i must have missed something.



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