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Post# 518484   5/17/2011 at 10:45 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Whilst my computer is signed in, I thought I would make a thread for the Creda brochure that I bought a while back.

Its a lovely brochure and it was great to finally be able to read up on these highly elusive machines, along with their not very matching matching dryers :-)

Post anything remotely Creda-ish here - would be nice to try and create a thread with as much info on the laundry offerings from this brand, as we hav in the knowledge banks.

Anyways - here we go.

Enjoy!
Paul





Post# 518485 , Reply# 1   5/17/2011 at 10:46 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

inside cover left...

Post# 518486 , Reply# 2   5/17/2011 at 10:47 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

inside cover right...

Post# 518487 , Reply# 3   5/17/2011 at 10:50 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The Creda 10500 - this is the machine that lived up the road ffrom me.

It was replaced in 1987/88 by a Hotpoint 9901 Washer Dryer and banished to the owners garage.
There it stayed until the early 90s, when a skip appeared one day.

Wandering back from the village one day, I peered into the skip and there on its back was a visually pristine 10500. Such a shame - it was a lovely machine...


Post# 518488 , Reply# 4   5/17/2011 at 10:51 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

10500 continued.

The Rhythm spin - wish I had been able to see it...


Post# 518490 , Reply# 5   5/17/2011 at 10:53 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Made a boob!

The page above was for the standard model 10400.

Oops.
Paul


Post# 518491 , Reply# 6   5/17/2011 at 10:54 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Onto the familiar Compact 3 - model 37275 - a machine that ran for years and years and years, in various guises including exclusive models for the elctricity board and rumbelow...

Post# 518492 , Reply# 7   5/17/2011 at 10:55 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

continued...

Post# 518493 , Reply# 8   5/17/2011 at 10:56 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The equally long lived Creda Autodry - model TD400...

Post# 518494 , Reply# 9   5/17/2011 at 10:57 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The Creda Reversamat - model TD401...

Post# 518497 , Reply# 10   5/17/2011 at 10:59 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The Creda Sensamatic - model 37402, sat a top the 10500.

Argghhhhhh - made another boob - the autodry was model 37400 and the Reversamat was model 37401.
Creda had dropped the 'TD' model initials by this time...


Post# 518498 , Reply# 11   5/17/2011 at 11:00 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

continued...

Post# 518499 , Reply# 12   5/17/2011 at 11:01 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The gravity spinner...

Post# 518500 , Reply# 13   5/17/2011 at 11:01 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The pump spinner...

Post# 518501 , Reply# 14   5/17/2011 at 11:02 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The specifications...

Post# 518502 , Reply# 15   5/17/2011 at 11:03 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

continued...

Post# 518503 , Reply# 16   5/17/2011 at 11:04 (2,985 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Back cover, dated June 1978...

Post# 518524 , Reply# 17   5/17/2011 at 13:34 (2,984 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Wow! This is much older than my Creda Supaspeed 1000 Eco Wash which, I think, dates from 1990. When John and I found it, it had been discarded because it needed new motor brushes, but it looked like new. I have replaced the brushes twice and don't use it much now. It sat unused for months, years maybe, but then I discovered it was great for my perma press shirts when set for slow spin speed so I have used it once a week for a while. I like its flexibility and performance. It does not have a front-accessible pump protector. Maybe it does not have one at all.

Did this machine have some connection to Hotpoint in the UK?

It is amazing how structurally light it is. When it has a halfway heavy load in it, the front of the machine moves in and out as it tumbles in the wash and rinses. The tumble speed is faster than the Mieles' and when it is heating, it sits still for long periods of time and then moves the drum very slowly for a few seconds to turn over the load. If it is quiet in my basement and I listen closely, I can hear the typical sound of electrical water heating toward the end of each heating pause. It draws far less current than the Mieles which is maybe why it has to pause while it is heating.


Post# 518526 , Reply# 18   5/17/2011 at 13:40 (2,984 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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I like the washers; itís got that Hotpoint look about the timer knob, a bit liberatory.

Post# 518538 , Reply# 19   5/17/2011 at 14:30 (2,984 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        

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Our very first automatic washer when we were kids the Ti Creda Super de Luxe Electronic. One hell of a powerful machine the sound that machine made on spin was like no other machine. I always thought it was a 1000 spin machine not a 850. The rhythm spin always fasinated me. Not the most relable machine a problem with the timer started after about 2 years it would stick & we would have to move it on. Our auntie got the same model at the same time as us & it started with the same fault as ours. So you could not go out the house & leave it on or it would just keep on tumbling for ever. The only option button we would use now & again was the TimeSave button which cut out 1 rinse & the rhythm spin.

Post# 518546 , Reply# 20   5/17/2011 at 15:14 (2,984 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        

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Many Thanks Paul for uploading these brochures. A excellent read. The model after the Super deluxe Electronic was the Ti Creda Debonair Super Electronic 11800. Exactly the same with rhythm spin but now with 1000 spin & a round door.

Post# 518559 , Reply# 21   5/17/2011 at 15:57 (2,984 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Thanks for posting, Paul, these are very interesting. Do these dryers vent from the front grille on the door? I see a notation about an optional exhaust hose, if venting from the door does it snap onto the front? I do like the option of drop-down or side-swing door, would save many bumped heads when stacked on a washer!

Post# 518560 , Reply# 22   5/17/2011 at 16:02 (2,984 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Tom.

Not too au fait with the mid 90s Creda offerings, but I have a feeling that the machine you own will be mid 90s. Is it something like the machine below?

If so, then yep - its a Hotpoint 95 in drag essentially.

Owned by the same company, Creda machines were restyled Hotpoint machines - hence why you are plowing your way through brushes! lol
Good thing about the brushes is that that is pretty much all that goes awry with them.
They are generally long lived and rugged machines which, though they can be fragile on the outside, are built quite solidly and robustly on the inside.

In the later years of the Creda brand, it was generally the case that the previous generation of Hotpoint machines carried on in production, but being branded Creda.

You are right in that there is no removable filter on the machine - you have to remove the plastic central core from the sump, which serves the same purpose as the removable filter - but a lot ore hassle to clean.

I know what you mean about the heating noise - they perculate, is a way you could describe it.

Paul


Post# 518561 , Reply# 23   5/17/2011 at 16:02 (2,984 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        

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Such a shame that the brainless Indesit Company have dropped the Creda name. All we have left in our store is 2 T313VW compact Dryers & 1 Hotpoint Creda Collecton Electric Cooker. What next i think i Know Cannon Cookers.

Post# 518562 , Reply# 24   5/17/2011 at 16:03 (2,984 days old) by keymatic (Surrey.U.K)        

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Hi Paul,
Nice to see the old brochure again, I have the same one !! When i was at senior school we had two Home Economics rooms and the to two teachers had vast amounts of of appliance literature, probably by filling in the forms and receiving an abundance of pamphlets, brochures etc from companies..probably dating back to the late 60's. I managed to get a few bits, this one being one, along with a Servis Compact brochure.
I would upload some onto here, but there is soo much literature now, i don't have it catalogued anymore..although i mainly focus on 50's & 60's.
Happy uploading !!
Keith


Post# 518564 , Reply# 25   5/17/2011 at 16:06 (2,984 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Lee.

Know what you mean about the dials.

Though i like them a lot, when I see a picture of a square door Creda you see many traits from more familiar machines.

Hotpoint 18 series style dials, but a great deal more chunky, and an oh so Hoover bodyshell with square door (though the flush door style bodyshell was adopted about 4 years before Hoover did).

A really smart looking machine.

Paul
p.s How is the bodshell respray going? any news?


Post# 518567 , Reply# 26   5/17/2011 at 16:13 (2,984 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Craig.

The status of the Creda name on laundry equipement confuses me. You see it on the one model of full size dryer and the usual compact and little or nothing else.
I cant remember seeing a Creda washing machine in any stores for about the last 10 years - were they exclusives only?

You are only the 2nd person I know of to have owned one of these machines! They must have sold more than 2, but god only knows who else bought them.

With the later black facis machines being seemingly just as rare - maybe they werent as long lasting as the other models around at the time?

Paul


Post# 518568 , Reply# 27   5/17/2011 at 16:19 (2,984 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

HI Gan.

Yep, the dryers were all front venting.

Along with the vent hose, you received an adaptor akin to a flat side bowl with the base cut off. The wide end of the adaptor covered the grille on the door and the vent hose plugged in the other end.

The TD400 dryer on the left has the adaptor, whilst the dryer on the right is without.

You mention the swing door conversion kit! Until I read that little snippet, I never knew that they did such a thing! Having mentioned it to other people, they knew neither and none of us has ever seen a converted machine. A very rare feature.

Paul


Post# 518571 , Reply# 28   5/17/2011 at 16:22 (2,984 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Keith.

I remember you too had a copy of this brochure, saving copies of the pages you posted many moons ago.

Thank god my Home Ec room didnt have an appliance literature library! I am sure I would have been a wee bit distracted lol.

Servis Compact brochure!!!! Is that the Compact front loader machines or the wringer machines? Either way, if you still have it or its to hand, be great to see it!

Paul


Post# 518573 , Reply# 29   5/17/2011 at 16:24 (2,984 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Were these Creda's firsts?

The Creda Laundrair washing machine and dryer.

The dryer looks to be yet another clone of the Parnall autodry...


Post# 518574 , Reply# 30   5/17/2011 at 16:25 (2,984 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Was this Creda's first foray into washing machines?

Post# 518575 , Reply# 31   5/17/2011 at 16:27 (2,984 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Rebranded again from Parnall, being a Parnall Spinwasher...

Post# 518578 , Reply# 32   5/17/2011 at 16:30 (2,984 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Here is the TD59 Parnall Autodry from which the Creda was derived...

Post# 518579 , Reply# 33   5/17/2011 at 16:32 (2,984 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the Parnall TD67 Auto-dry compact dryer, available in 1969...

Post# 518580 , Reply# 34   5/17/2011 at 16:33 (2,984 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

which went on to provide the basis of the first version Creda TD275, from circa 1973...

Post# 518583 , Reply# 35   5/17/2011 at 16:40 (2,984 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Trying to fathom Creda out!

Were the Laundrair pair, Creda's first washer and dryer?

When the Laundrair washer was discontinued, did Creda fall out of the washing machine market until the introduction of the first square door machine? I dont know of any Creda washing machine between these two models.

Who owned Creda back in the 60s and what was the relationship with Parnall, to see them gradually take over the Parnall range of dryers and eventually replace the Parnall name with their own?

I am really in the mood for learning:-)

Paul


Post# 518588 , Reply# 36   5/17/2011 at 16:58 (2,984 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        

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Paul, Here in Cumbria Creda Washers & Dryers were our top sellers especially when the brand was owned by GDA. The Jackson by Creda J1000 1000 spin washer basically a Hotpoint WM52 First Edition but about £60 cheaper was a very big seller along with the Supaspeed,Simplicity,Advance,Excel range & the early COLOURS range of dark blue & olive green. Cookers also sold very well the Creda Capri,Menu,Concept,Hallmark & Expressions range. Yes they was a vast range of Creda appliances back then until Merloni took over then they started reducing the range just to basically concentrate on Indesit.

Post# 518595 , Reply# 37   5/17/2011 at 17:29 (2,984 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        
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Paul

As far as I know, there was not a direct link between Creda and Parnall in the early 1960s, but it would not be a surprise that Creda "badged" Parnall dryers. I was just looking over some old Creda brochures earlier tonight and at the time of the Laundaire pair Creda seems to have been a brand of Simplex. Well spotted that these were Parnall machines.

Later on they were branded as part of the TI (Tube Investments) group. Parnall were part of the Radiation group along with Jackson cookers. Late on in the 1960s the Radiation group was bought over by TI, the Parnall name was dropped and, as you correctly note above, their small drier was re-branded as Creda, which had a fit with the long running Debonair and Autopump spin driers.

Jackson cookers continued until the mid 1970s (and there was even some overlap between models) when the Jackson name was dropped although some models continued under the Creda name - noteably the "Topline". Jackson re-appeared in the mid-1980 as (I think) TOL Creda built-ins, although against the onslaught of German ovens at that time, they did not last long.

I got the Creda built in brochure that was being sold by the same person you got the washers brochure from, dated 11/77 they were still part of TI at that time.

Al


Post# 518614 , Reply# 38   5/17/2011 at 18:29 (2,984 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Thanks, Paul. My machine has two big dials, one labeled Economy Temp which goes from no heat to 200F. The other is labeled Wash Program. The cycles go A-G. The little label inside the door says: Model 17064E and under that: CHA242. The number under that is 21173555. There are 4 buttons labeled from the right: ON, SLOW SPIN, SUPER WASH (higher water level), WASH RINSE HOLD. There is also a nice rectangular red Power On light between the dials. I love the flexibility of choosing the temperature independently of the wash cycle. I am sort of fearful of the durability of the machine. It saw use before I got it and it served me well after my first Miele died so she is very semi-retired, a status which I feel she has earned.

Post# 518730 , Reply# 39   5/18/2011 at 04:33 (2,984 days old) by mrx ()        

Yikes, that front-venting system was pretty primitive even by 1970s standards. I'm amazed they didn't duct it out someway!

The washing machines look like Hoover machines of the same era in terms of their styling.


Post# 518812 , Reply# 40   5/18/2011 at 12:23 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Craig.

Absolutely! Much like all the old UK appliance names - either a shadow of their former selves or no longer sold:-(

I know the machines you refer to - piccy of the Jackson machine below. I was the proud owner of a Hotpoint WM52 and can say that it was a great machine that did all a house of 4 new graduates required of it.

Jackson became the posh name which, as far as I understand it, was used in the early to mid 80s for the semi integrated offerings from TI, although the Jackson dishwasher was a Philips.

Will post some piccies of them soon.

Paul


Post# 518813 , Reply# 41   5/18/2011 at 12:24 (2,983 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

When I saw that venting adapter along side the dryer without it, I thought we were being shown the difference between a partially and fully dialated cervix of some giant animal.

Post# 518814 , Reply# 42   5/18/2011 at 12:30 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Thanks for the info Al.

Its always useful to try and put things into some sort of order and, with the business structure and many subsidiaries of TI, understanding where Creda fits in is a tad more complicated than the norm.

Its only recently that I looked at the Laundrair dryer and it just slapped me across the face that it was a Parnall.
Its probably got something to do with the recent discussions that have taken place concerning the Parnall TD59, that made me realise.
Then looked at the washer and it was a Parnall Spinwasher!

You mention Jackson - here the advert from 1984...


Post# 518817 , Reply# 43   5/18/2011 at 12:32 (2,983 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Paul,

Shell re-spray.

I gave the company a rocket today, last week I sent a polite email enquiring as to weather it had been completed, no reply, I sent another and again no reply, then I started to get a bit sweaty, OMG have they gone into receivership or even lost the panels. So I paid them a visit today, gladly still in operation, funny how you start to think the worst of a situation, any how the stripping company are the problem, and the panels should be back from them tomorrow, re-coated later that day, so should be ready to collect this Friday.

Fingers crossed.
Lee


Post# 518819 , Reply# 44   5/18/2011 at 12:36 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Tom.

I had assumed that your 17064E was maybe a machine sold over here and then taken abroad when the owners emigrated, but you mentioning that it has the temperatures listed in fahrenheit, rather than centigrade, maybe means that it was something a bit different.

Maybe the 'E' means export?

Paul


Post# 518821 , Reply# 45   5/18/2011 at 12:38 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Lee.

Shant relax until the bodyshell is safely back with you!

Cant wait to see it all come back together again.

Paul


Post# 518822 , Reply# 46   5/18/2011 at 12:40 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

CREDA...

righty oh - lets give this a go.


The 1st machines - the Laundrair washer and dryer...


Post# 518823 , Reply# 47   5/18/2011 at 12:43 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Theory...

The Laundrair washing machine was discontinued and Creda ceased to have its name on a washing machine for a number of years.

However they stayed stuck hard and fast to tumble dryers and of course spinners.

The absorbtion of Parnall saw them adopt the Parnall TD67 as their compact dryer...


Post# 518824 , Reply# 48   5/18/2011 at 12:44 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and create the TD275 Creda Compact tumble dry...

Post# 518825 , Reply# 49   5/18/2011 at 12:44 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

which developed into the 2nd generation Creda TD275...

Post# 518826 , Reply# 50   5/18/2011 at 12:46 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and spawned the electra version TD275 for the electricity board shops...

Post# 518827 , Reply# 51   5/18/2011 at 12:47 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

as well as this version - the TD275E...

Post# 518828 , Reply# 52   5/18/2011 at 12:49 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The TD275 grew taller and wider and developed into the TD400...

Post# 518829 , Reply# 53   5/18/2011 at 12:50 (2,983 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Shant relax until the bodyshell is safely back with you!

Too bloody right, I have been waiting for one for years, itís not slipping out of my grip this time, fallen out with her-in-doors over it as well, found out how much it cost to buy in the first place and had to confess to how much the re-paint is costing, ho well not to worry, usual sentence of a you no what ban, in other words no early nights for a week or too or even three.

I have got to smuggle in the next item as well, just got a Hoover constellation from ebay, will arrive some time next week, being delivered to my work so it can slip under the radar in the dead of night, must oil the runners on the garage door so it runs silently.

Lee


Post# 518830 , Reply# 54   5/18/2011 at 12:52 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the TD400A Sensamatic - was this the UK's first programmable sensing dryer?

Post# 518831 , Reply# 55   5/18/2011 at 12:55 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Here is my TD275 Compact...

Post# 518833 , Reply# 56   5/18/2011 at 12:58 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the TD400A, kindly provided by Gary (electron1100) who saved it from certain death, when it was taken to the tip where he works.

I remember that it was mentioned that this very machine MIGHT have been a prototype or very early production machine and that it was taken to the tip by an ex-creda employee...


Post# 518834 , Reply# 57   5/18/2011 at 12:59 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

stainless steel drum...

Post# 518835 , Reply# 58   5/18/2011 at 13:00 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the sensing device...

Post# 518836 , Reply# 59   5/18/2011 at 13:02 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The plastic baffle on the bottom of the door vent scoops expelled air and passes it back over the sensing device....

Post# 518837 , Reply# 60   5/18/2011 at 13:02 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The programmes...

Post# 518838 , Reply# 61   5/18/2011 at 13:03 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the dial...

Post# 518839 , Reply# 62   5/18/2011 at 13:05 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The 1973 range together....

Post# 518840 , Reply# 63   5/18/2011 at 13:07 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

not forgetting that there were Jackson branded machines as well, though they never had a Sensamatic version. Again, the advert is from 1973...

Post# 518841 , Reply# 64   5/18/2011 at 13:08 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The Jackson TD275...

Post# 518842 , Reply# 65   5/18/2011 at 13:09 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the Jackson TD400...

Post# 518843 , Reply# 66   5/18/2011 at 13:13 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Then the 'TD' was dropped and the '37' dryer model numbering was introduced, with the 1977/78 series contained in the brochure.

The 37275 Compact 3...


Post# 518844 , Reply# 67   5/18/2011 at 13:15 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the rarer 37275S Compact 3S, with stainless steel drum...

Post# 518845 , Reply# 68   5/18/2011 at 13:16 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and another version of the Compact 3...

Post# 518846 , Reply# 69   5/18/2011 at 13:17 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and another version, probably another exclusive...

Post# 518847 , Reply# 70   5/18/2011 at 13:18 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and this version for Rumbelows - the 37275RS...

Post# 518848 , Reply# 71   5/18/2011 at 13:21 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Full size wise...

the TD400 became the TD400 autodry...

Post# 518849 , Reply# 72   5/18/2011 at 13:22 (2,983 days old) by keymatic (Surrey.U.K)        

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Laundrair washer & dryer...

Arhhh..I am now confused, I thought Parnall first launched this machine in 1960 as per the front cover of the September Which magazine (month maybe wrong) I though Creda approached Parnall to see if they could use their machine under a rebadge and some minor tweaks, to break into the major appliance market..?
Parnall & Creda would have had the same machine in the market at the same time, Parnall's Mk1 "Spinwasher" ran from 1960-64 and as far as i can see from a Creda brochure they had the Laundrair pair available in they catalogue of 1963-64.
Bizzare !!
Keith


Post# 518850 , Reply# 73   5/18/2011 at 13:22 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and was modified to have a reversing feature, becoming the 37401 Reversamat - here is Mike's example...

Post# 518851 , Reply# 74   5/18/2011 at 13:24 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the TD400A Sensamatic, became the 37402 Sensamatic...

Post# 518855 , Reply# 75   5/18/2011 at 13:29 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Washing Machines...

I am assuming that Creda stayed out of the washer market, from when the Laundrair was discontinued, through to 1976.

That year saw them re-enter the wet market with the 10100 De Luxe...


Post# 518857 , Reply# 76   5/18/2011 at 13:32 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Though very reminiscent of the 1980 Smoother Hoover series of machines, it should really be that the Hoover machines were reminiscent of the Creda models, with the creda flush door cabinet being introduced 4 years before the arrival of the A3110.

Here the 10100 with a Hoover A3006 for comparison...


Post# 518858 , Reply# 77   5/18/2011 at 13:34 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

alongside the 10100, was the Super De Luxe model 10200.

I only have a Which magazine line drawing of this model...


Post# 518859 , Reply# 78   5/18/2011 at 13:35 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 10300 Debonair - a missing link model.

Creda also produced model 10300 which was called the 'Debonair' and was sold as an exclusive model only, through independent outlets.

I have never seen a picture of this model - anyone?


Post# 518861 , Reply# 79   5/18/2011 at 13:36 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The 10100 was upgraded and became the 10400 De Luxe Electronic, as seen in the brochure...

Post# 518862 , Reply# 80   5/18/2011 at 13:37 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the 10200 became the 10500 Super De Luxe Electronic...

Post# 518863 , Reply# 81   5/18/2011 at 13:40 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The Eighties...

The models above, as well as a whole host of exclusive models, saw Creda through to the start of a new decade.

1980 saw a MAJOR change for the style and design of Creda laundry machines.

tbc.

paul


Post# 518865 , Reply# 82   5/18/2011 at 14:02 (2,983 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Keith.

Missed your comment in amongst all my postings.

Your confusion is the same as mine.
Perhaps it was akin to Hotpoint and Zanussi with the Hotpoint Liberator 1826.

Probably some agreement to give Parnall a cut of Creda machines sold - something must have been in it for Parnall somewhere along the line.

Is there any juicy info in your Creda Laundrair brochure?

Paul


Post# 518892 , Reply# 83   5/18/2011 at 16:20 (2,983 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Paul, they were sold over here for a while. There is even a parts place in Texas I call to order motor brushes.

Post# 518898 , Reply# 84   5/18/2011 at 17:11 (2,983 days old) by hoovermatic (UK)        
Suds Saver

The blurb that goes with the Creda Laundrair Top Load machine implies that this is like the US suds saver machines where the water can be 'saved for a second load' - is that correct?

Post# 518911 , Reply# 85   5/18/2011 at 18:30 (2,983 days old) by FL1012 ()        
Ti

Interesting read, Paul. Thank you for posting.

I had wondered what 'Ti' had meant, as several of my families appliances carried the badge.

My Aunties cooker was a Ti Jackson Hallmark. As far as i'm aware she owned it from 1983 (possibly second hand) until the mid 90s when it was replaced by a Tricity Bendix Tiara. I still remember the Jackson Hallmark ticking as the hob 'rings' turned on & off!

My Gran had a Creda Compact 3, which she owned from the late 70s/early 80s until 2001. Heavily used initially, it didn't get much use in its later years until a year long stint in our household following the demise of our Hotpoint 17221 Super Dryer. We used it moderately but unfortunately the timer failed so on one occasion it was put on in the morning & still running when Mum returned home 6 hours later. The items being dried were removed with BBQ tongs due to the heat! After that we only used it when we could keep an eye on it & following the purchase of matching Electrolux Premier washer & dryer in 2001, it was returned to my Gran who i believe disposed of it shortly after.

Interestingly the gas oven we bought when we moved into a new house in 1986 was a Ti New World, with Sola Grill & 'Gyroflo' oven. Dunno if this is the same Ti as mentioned above? I'd presume so. It was a pretty bad oven that went through a couple of thermostats in its 15 years with us & always seemed tempramental with regulating. It liked breaking around Christmas time too - on one occasion the unusually long turkey cooking time caused the oven dial to stick on, so we had to disconnect it from the gas to turn it off! It made way for a Diplomat Select (aka Stoves) electric oven, which was much better.

Finally my Auntie owned an Electra automatic washer, which is like the orange button one that i believe Mike owns. I believe this was also a Creda as it has the same drum & powder draw interior as photographed in Pauls initial brochure pages. It was a superb washer, lasting at least 12 years washing for 3 including when my cousin was first born & producing lots of laundry. Most remarkably, and unlike Mums similar aged Hotpoint 95450, it never needed a single call-out for repair. It made way for a Servis made Electra AW900A Eco in the mid 90s, which was also a good machine that was still working with no call-outs when my Auntie moved house in 2007.

Liam.



Post# 519082 , Reply# 86   5/19/2011 at 13:57 (2,982 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Liam.

Glad you liked the read.

Your family was certainly overridden with TI products. It really is such a shame that such a once proud brand has, like with most of the others, been consumed by other owning companies and, in the case of Creda, pretty much irradicated.

Tragic to think of what once was.

Paul
p.s I missed out a dryer model from all the bumpff I posted last night.
For about a year from 1976, the TD400A Sensamatic was upgraded into the TD400RS Sensamatic.
Receiving a restyled facia, it also received reverse tumble as well!!!
Was this the UK's first reversing tumble dryer?


Post# 519103 , Reply# 87   5/19/2011 at 15:51 (2,982 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales)        

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do those little dryers have safety features, like auto stop if the door is opend during the cycle?
Tom
ps TI stands for Tube Investements. i know that because my sience teacher was havin a chat with me and it said that that was what it stood for.


Post# 519122 , Reply# 88   5/19/2011 at 17:24 (2,982 days old) by Rolls_rapide (0)        
TI

Was Russell Hobbs ever connected to TI? I seem to remember that the base of our old K Series kettle had a "TI" mark stamped on it.

Also mum's Creda "Carefree" cooker from 1975 had that mark proudly on display on the splashback.

Gran had a Creda "Cavalier" cooker from about 1973.


Post# 519136 , Reply# 89   5/19/2011 at 18:05 (2,982 days old) by ultimafan ()        
...

Great machines...particularly the sensamatic dryers! Was creda the first to produce the sensor dryer or was it miele?

Post# 519218 , Reply# 90   5/20/2011 at 02:57 (2,982 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        
Great machines?

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My Mum had a Reversomat as shown in reply 73, bought at the end of 1977. As a dryer it was OK and it was still going strong in 1997 BUT that front venting was a complete pain in the butt. The conical cover was screwed on from the inside and so spoiled the whole look of the (rather attractive to me) machine, and the hose has to be clipped on and off everytime it was used otherwise there would have been a great coil of plastic vent hose all over the kitchen floor.

Al


Post# 519257 , Reply# 91   5/20/2011 at 07:19 (2,982 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        

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After all these years the Creda,Hotpoint & Indesit compact dryers still have the same design & the same front venting which is a pain never did like the idea of having to screw the cover on the door & vent from the front. Indesit company also took the wheels off it daft idea making them dificult to move around. Most people would push there compact dryers to the back door & stick the hose out. White Knight have the best compacts & they have wheels on & a vent hose at the back where it should be.

Post# 519344 , Reply# 92   5/20/2011 at 16:15 (2,981 days old) by bertrum ()        

Hi,
On post 518497, by matchboxpaul,
Is that a fox sitting on the chair next to the lady who is sorting laundry next to her Creda appliances?.
Also could it be Bazil brush who I believe made his first appearance about this time, in the early 70's?.
I think if Bazil brush was here now he would want me to quote him, "HA HA HA, Boom,Boom!".


Post# 519455 , Reply# 93   5/21/2011 at 04:52 (2,981 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda - The Unsung Hero of UK Laundry....

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Great thread about one of the Great British Iconic Laundry Brands...alas no more!! Creda introduced their Creda Debonair Spin Dryer in the late 50`s and the laundry brand was born, many a home had the cream and red model, and what a boom to housewifes having just a mangle, I was talking to my great Aunt Bess recently and recounted a story of my gran visiting here sister after aunty had her new baby son, my gran offered to do the washing & help but with only a Hotpoint Empress & mangle and no spinner and a very wet day outside it was better to decline the offer for that day as the washing would have been all over the house!!! A spinner was bought soon after...LOl



Post# 519456 , Reply# 94   5/21/2011 at 04:53 (2,981 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda Debonair - Popular

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2,800rpm, gravity drain

Post# 519457 , Reply# 95   5/21/2011 at 04:56 (2,981 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda Debonair - Popular

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Beautiful Copper Drum

Post# 519458 , Reply# 96   5/21/2011 at 04:57 (2,981 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda Debonair - Popular

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Spinning & Draining!!

Post# 519945 , Reply# 97   5/23/2011 at 12:10 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi guys.

Thanks for the contributions - great to hear peoples memories of Creda machines - good and bad.

Have to agree that the vent hose arrangement with creda was definately a tad archaic and something that they were change with the next series of offerings, which arrived in the stores during 1980


Post# 519947 , Reply# 98   5/23/2011 at 12:16 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The core standard model was the smart model 10700 One Thousand electronic.

Couldnt be any more visually different - from a silver facia to dark black and from a square white door with thin chrome trim, to a round door with chunky chrome trim.

Certainly a new look for a new era of Creda...


Post# 519948 , Reply# 99   5/23/2011 at 12:21 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Now, this whole series of machines are quite illusive.

The ever useful reference pages of Which Magazines, surrendered details of a small batch of exclusive models created from 1981 through to 1985/86.

However, alongside the standard 10700 wasl the One Thousand RS electronic - I think this is the model 10800...


Post# 519950 , Reply# 100   5/23/2011 at 12:29 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The exclusives detailed in Which Magazine were the following:

model 11000 (1000rpm) 'Allander' for House of Fraser
model 11300 (1000rpm) 'Debonair' for CIH Independents
model 11400 (1000rpm) 'Crusader' for Rumbelows
model 11500 (1000rpm) 'electra' for the Electricity Board Shops
model 11600 (1000rpm) 'Crusader' for Rumbelows (this, I assumed replaced model 11400)


Post# 519951 , Reply# 101   5/23/2011 at 12:30 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Only have two pics of the exclusives...

Here is model 11400 Creda 'Crusader' electronic 1000....

Post# 519952 , Reply# 102   5/23/2011 at 12:32 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the model 11500 'electra' electronic de luxe, of which Mike has a lovely example (will let you post the picks of your machine Mike!)...

Post# 519953 , Reply# 103   5/23/2011 at 12:35 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Models 10700 and 10800 were upgraded to become models 11700 and 11800, circa 1983/84, and apparrently gained the names 'debonair electronic' and 'debonair super elctronic'.

No pictures of either of them unfortunately.


Post# 519954 , Reply# 104   5/23/2011 at 12:37 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Nor a picture of the 1984 model ????? concorde electronic exclusive for Comet.

I think the above was probably the final model based upon the 10700.


Post# 519958 , Reply# 105   5/23/2011 at 12:48 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
1981

Not forgetting though, the pinnacle of the black facia machines in the form of the Model 12000 Microelectronic De Luxe.

Only ever saw one of these - a lovely looking machine


Post# 519966 , Reply# 106   5/23/2011 at 13:23 (2,978 days old) by lavamat_jon (-)        

Hi Paul - great scans! Have never seen that MicroElectronic model before, looks very hi-tech - as you know I have a soft spot for all-pushbutton control panels!  What does the dial on the right say? I can't quite make it out on my screen.

 

Cheers, take care,

 

Jon


Post# 519968 , Reply# 107   5/23/2011 at 13:26 (2,978 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        
Microelectronic

Such a nice machine... Speechless.

Post# 519970 , Reply# 108   5/23/2011 at 13:30 (2,978 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales)        

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is my creda energy saver dryer relevent to this thread? if so i will get a pic of it asap

Post# 519973 , Reply# 109   5/23/2011 at 13:44 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Jon and James.

Have only the vaguest recollections of the Creda MicroElectronic and it was one of the first machines I ever mentioned, when I joined Discuss O Mat! Question was basically did anyone else remember it.

Then Mathew (keymatic3203) produced a book with a picture in it of the 12000 and finally there it was!
The machine I saw was plumbed in and working, outside the town centre branch of (I think) Currys in Accrington.

The dial is 'power off' at the left and 'power on' at the right.


Below is a link to one of Hass' adverts, containing the model 12000 and a front venting Creda Debonair...


CLICK HERE TO GO TO matchboxpaul's LINK


Post# 519974 , Reply# 110   5/23/2011 at 13:46 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Tom.

Feel free to post piccies of your machine - its a creda thread, so anything Creda-ish goes.

Paul


Post# 520028 , Reply# 111   5/23/2011 at 17:08 (2,978 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        

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Loads of exciting Creda/Hotpoint instruction book reading material Starting with the Creda 11800 debonair 1000.


hotpointservice.co.uk/hs/pages/manual/manualsearch.do


Post# 520121 , Reply# 112   5/24/2011 at 03:23 (2,978 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda Debonair

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Just look at all those interesting models and tell me UK laundry wasnt ahead of its time...those models would fit into a shop floor line up with ease today!!!

Heres the Electra 11500 made by Creda


Post# 520122 , Reply# 113   5/24/2011 at 03:25 (2,978 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Controls

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Lovely orange accents..

Post# 520123 , Reply# 114   5/24/2011 at 03:26 (2,978 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda Debonair - Popular

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Timer - this makes a lovely loud click tick when moving around!!

 

Dont you just love 1,2 5 & 7 - These relate to the HLCC (Home laundry Care Council) fabric wash codes, most washing machines in the UK from the 70's had these simple numbers to programme your wash - much simpler back then  - but I do like the overrides of today!!

 

1 = Whites 95d

2 = Lights  60d

5 = Darks 40d

7 = Woollens 40d




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Post# 520124 , Reply# 115   5/24/2011 at 03:28 (2,978 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda Electra

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Drum, just look at those baffles and spider arch supports, really solid

Post# 520125 , Reply# 116   5/24/2011 at 03:30 (2,978 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda Electra

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Dispenser, smooth sides no nooks or crannies and jets that blast everything down the shute - as one expects!!

Post# 520126 , Reply# 117   5/24/2011 at 03:32 (2,978 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Electra Creda 11500

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Rear view, solid and does the job, the transit brace fitted right across the back of the machine under the back plate!!

Post# 520127 , Reply# 118   5/24/2011 at 03:34 (2,978 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Electra Creda 11500

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Ready for a wash!!

Post# 520128 , Reply# 119   5/24/2011 at 03:40 (2,978 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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My neighbors as I was growing up in the UK next door had a Creda Concord 1100 with the dark facia, two dials, three or four switches and a tiny on/off button, can't find a photo of any on the internet but it looked awesome. It was replaced later with a Creda Supaspeed 1200. Very cool. If anyone has any photos of the Concord models that would be a great memory jolt :-D

Matt


Post# 520135 , Reply# 120   5/24/2011 at 06:30 (2,978 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Creda the silent stars

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Hello Paul

Thanks for starting this thread, it shows Creda where such a wonderful make, glorious looking machines what a pity they went ;-(

Anyway here is apic of a rather beaten up Creda 1000 that came into work some time ago, I didnt save the machine but I think i removed the fascia, control knob etc and soap draw


Post# 520167 , Reply# 121   5/24/2011 at 11:22 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Craig.

Thanks for posting the link details.

When I read the details of the link, it jogged my memory that I had the manual for the 11800 already.

Just been and got a screen grab of the 11800 Debonair super elctronic...


Post# 520168 , Reply# 122   5/24/2011 at 11:24 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Thanks for posting the pics of your 11500 Mike!

It really is a lovely colour combination, with the orange details just jumping out at you.

I remember the excitement I felt when it appeared for sale and the overjoyment that you had managed to buy it.
Hers hoping those bearings can be sorted soon.

Paul


Post# 520169 , Reply# 123   5/24/2011 at 11:25 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Matt.

Think your concorde model was 17003 - one of the early 17000series exclusives, sold through Comet only...


Post# 520170 , Reply# 124   5/24/2011 at 11:29 (2,978 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Gary.

Such a shame that that 10700 was such an absolute wreck, when it came into you. Real mixed emotions - kind of so near yet so far!

Glad that you managed to salvage the frilly bits.

Heres hoping that one more in this kind of condition will surface one day.

Paul

p.s ohhhh - the pain of watching a JCB digger demolish one on an episode of that criminal programme 'How Clean is Your House' a while back! Such vandalism.


Post# 520172 , Reply# 125   5/24/2011 at 11:35 (2,977 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The dyers for the new decade!

Here goes then -

37404 reversair front venting dryer...


Post# 520173 , Reply# 126   5/24/2011 at 11:36 (2,977 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

37405 reversair rear venting dryer...

Post# 520174 , Reply# 127   5/24/2011 at 11:37 (2,977 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

37406 electronic sensamatic rear venting dryer...

Post# 520175 , Reply# 128   5/24/2011 at 11:40 (2,977 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

model 37407 was an 'Allander' branded dryer for House of Fraser.

Somewhere along the lines there probably was a version (maybe 37408?) as a 'Crusader' for Rumbelows and maybe a 'Debonair' version for CIH Independents.

No pictures though :-(


Post# 520176 , Reply# 129   5/24/2011 at 11:42 (2,977 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

37409 'electra' tumble dryer for the electricity board shops...

Post# 520177 , Reply# 130   5/24/2011 at 11:45 (2,977 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
(Model 37411 was a Crusader dryer for Rumbelows)

When the core dryers were warmed over, alongwith the 10700 and 10800, the result was:

37404 became 37414 debonair reversair...


Post# 520178 , Reply# 131   5/24/2011 at 11:47 (2,977 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

37405 became 37415 Debonair reversair.

I am pretty sure that this dryer was purcahsed by a collctor here...


Post# 520179 , Reply# 132   5/24/2011 at 11:49 (2,977 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

model 37406 became 37416 debonair electronic reversair
&
model 37407 'Allander' became 37417 'Allander'.

- no piccies though :-(


Post# 520210 , Reply# 133   5/24/2011 at 14:52 (2,977 days old) by markt5004 ()        


Hi Paul

It was me who had the 37415 pictured above (I see you nicked my pics...lol). Lucky you did though as I was about to post those pics and remembered im using my dads laptop and so don't have them anymore. Unfortunately I don't think I have any old washer pics now but I do have some disks which I copied photos on a while back so hopefully there is some on there.

Sadly I had to leave the 37415 in Scotland but as far as I know the machine has been kept for use as the daily machine as the Creda was the only dryer we had.

Mark
x


Post# 520265 , Reply# 134   5/24/2011 at 20:18 (2,977 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        

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Paul, Thank you so much for starting this Creda thread. 133 Posts up to now & still rising. I have totaly loved reading everyone of them. So sad that the true British CREDA Brand name is no more.Shame on Indeshite Company. Many Thanks Craig.

Post# 520472 , Reply# 135   5/25/2011 at 20:38 (2,976 days old) by Fl1012 ()        
Creda/Electra 11500.....

this was the model my Auntie owned for at least 12 years. It was brilliant, never a single fault. Cheers to Paul & Mike for the info & pics.

My onmly critism of the machine was why they made the writing above the option buttons so big that it didn't fit within the button area. Seemed odd that they didn't use the same font/size as the Creda versions :-/

Other than that it was a brilliant machine, high water levels & (as Mike mentioned) a lovely sounding timer - *TickTickTickTickTick. Tick Tick Tick. Tick. TickTickTickTickTick.....tumble* :D

Liam


Post# 1032146 , Reply# 136   5/8/2019 at 17:06 by mcmurdo (staffordshire)        
TI Creda 1000 Electronic RS

Long time lurker, first time poster.

When I was a nipper we lived not far from the TI Creda factory at Blythe Bridge, Staffordshire. Due to a friend of a friend, we had access to the 'Credenda Room' b-grade showroom at the factory where employees and trade could buy reworked returns and b-grade appliances from the TI group (cannon, creda, russell hobbs, et al). Around 1982 dad came home with a Creda microwave (made my Litton in the US); The 1000 electronic RS washer; a Debonair Reversair dryer; a Futura kettle and Toaster. Creda rented the factory from AFAIK Pearl Assurance, after TI sold Creda, the company, merged with GEC's Hotpoint under the joint ownership of GEC and GE, to become GDA Group. I think it was at this time that the TI was dropped from the Creda logo.
After lasting 13 years the Creda was swapped for a Hotpoint-type Creda equivalent.

Following the break up of GEC and the sale of GDA to Merloni (subsequently Indesit) the huge factory was vacated and is now home to Panelco Meyer, a manufacturer of decorative timber laminates.

As an adult I used to go to Creda to service various machinery including the giant metal presses and the electrostatic spray booths, amongst other things. In the security lodge visitor waiting area was a Creda wall=mounted heater, and when it kicked in the fan used make a horrendous drumming noise. Not a good advert to greet visitors!

Both Creda and later GDA appliances were rock solid. I should know, I've still got mine and at 23-years old now, it's still in daily use with minimal new parts!





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