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RimFlo vs Filter Flo
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Post# 521718   5/31/2011 at 21:54 (4,705 days old) by MaytagA710 ()        

Other than Hotpoint, the only machines I know of that had the rim flo system was Beaumark. Did Moffat have the Rim Flo system or did they have the Filter Flo set up? Anyways, how well did the two systems compare? Rim Flo's are somewhat 'self cleaning' from the fill nozzle aren't they, or do they have to be cleaned often?

On another note, this set came up on Kijiji a while ago, and looks in really good condition. I might go take a look at it/pick it up. But look at the lid, opens to the left!


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Post# 521719 , Reply# 1   5/31/2011 at 22:20 (4,705 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
rim flo

earlier perforated tub speed queens,such as the two'84s i have,had rim flo
setup that is very much like the hotpoint setup.When the washer spins,lint
collected in the trough is thrown into the outer tub-rinse water directed
into the trough during spin also helps remove the lint.
In the speed queen, the flow into the rim trough is generated by a small
centrifugal filter pump built into the top of the drain pump.
Not sure when the "marathon"speed queens quit the rim flo.


Post# 521829 , Reply# 2   6/1/2011 at 15:24 (4,704 days old) by MaytagA710 ()        

Could you post a picture of the SQ with the rim-flo like setup? Im curious to see what it looks like!

Post# 521833 , Reply# 3   6/1/2011 at 16:00 (4,704 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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RimFlo does allow for self cleaning, but once the trough gets filled, filtering stops...on a true FilterFlo with the "moving" pan, it allows for the lint to ball up, and catch one heck of a lot of lint, and basically never gets clogged or filled, but you do have to take the fluffy balls of lint and dispose of them yourself, at least the spin cycle removed the water from them, unlike some other filter flo styles that leave the lint soggy and a mess to clean out......

macboy91si/Tim has done videos comparing the 2, where he converted a Hotpoint RimFlo to a true GE FilterFlo, which I sent him parts for him to see the difference.....the pan on the agitator makes all the difference in the world

I would have to see a money shot, but I don't believe the linked set is a filter flo design, and I am basing that on the dryers door is much newer, late 90's into 2000.......although on Canadian models the lid for the washer did open to the left.....so that one I am a little lost, others may know better


Post# 521834 , Reply# 4   6/1/2011 at 16:07 (4,704 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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this is a video of a Speed Queen with their version of a rimflo, which actually you can't see....but the trough is all around the top, and the water being pumped into it is located at the 6 O clock position in the front, a little hard to see

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Post# 521835 , Reply# 5   6/1/2011 at 16:08 (4,704 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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This is one of Tim's great videos...theres more also to view...but also easy to compare against the filter pan version

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Post# 521864 , Reply# 6   6/1/2011 at 19:38 (4,704 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
GE FF LINT FILTER PANS

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I never found these to be very effective on the V-12 and later machines. Try my test, weigh out several grams of dryer lint and place in the GE plastic filter pan at the start of a normal wash cycle with a load of clothes in the washer. After the cycle is complete remove the ball of lint and allow to dry completely for a few days or place in a warm oven overnight. When you are done weight the collected lint and you will probably have less than you started with. The rapidly moving filter pan acts like a sifter and much of the lint goes right through the holes. While the GE FF lint filters are a little more effective than the ones mounted inside the MT agitators we still had a lot of GE FF customers that just left the filter pan on the shelf above the washer where it at least collected dust LOL.

 

By far and away the most effective lint filters ever installed on automatic washers were several of the different designs of the Self Cleaning filters that various WP and KM washers had. These SC filters easily collected three to more than ten times the amount of lint that most manually cleaned filters could ever hope to catch. I have had KMs and WPs with this type of filter in the same house where I live now since 1966 and never had a clogged drain or a clogged filter on any of the washers so equipped. Some times when the washer is about to drain I love to pull the drain hose out of the stand pipe and hold it over a dryer lint screen over the laundry tub and as it starts to drain you see a huge amount of lint appear that is being flushed out of the filter. And when you dry the same load out of one of these machines you easily have about 1/2 the lint in the dryers filter at the end of the drying cycle.


Post# 521868 , Reply# 7   6/1/2011 at 20:08 (4,704 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
RimFlo vs Filter Flo!!

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My prefrence was always the rim flow models - the filter flow pans always were in the way. You did need to occasionally clean the rim flow but it was simple. I also perfered the hand wash adjator as opposed to the mini basket. Also a nucence taking in and out.
Peter


Post# 521875 , Reply# 8   6/1/2011 at 21:04 (4,704 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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My Amana has the filter-rim on it and like John said, is likely about as effective as the rest of the filter gimmicks most manufacturers came up with.   The Amana pumps water through the filter during spin out as well as agitation so combined with the long spray rinse, most of which is directed into the filter-rim, helps keep it clean. 

 

The GE Filter-Flo pans are pretty good overall at keeping themselves clean by balling up the lint into a tidy orb but there was this one that doesn't do this. It's disgusting.  I'm sure they were making room for a myriad of dispenser options to be placed over the pan, but the design of that well in the middle caused the water to slosh all around and not ball up the lint and filtered debris leaving a nasty mess all over the pan.  This is what it looked like when I found the machine on Craigslist.  I cleaned it up, of course, but after using it for a while can see exactly how it got to this horrible condition.  I've found most of my orphaned filters on shelves and in cabinets at estate sales for the very reason John says, most were cast aside by their owners and remained long after the machine was gone.


Post# 521879 , Reply# 9   6/1/2011 at 21:35 (4,704 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        


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Cleaned

 


Post# 521882 , Reply# 10   6/1/2011 at 22:24 (4,704 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Ingenious

I notice you found an answer to loose rubber so it will grab on the rod..



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