Thread Number: 35087
New GE disposal model
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|Post# 524923   6/16/2011 at 15:44 (4,560 days old) by bwoods ()  || |
Has anyone purchased the GE GFC1020V model "Disposall"?
Judging by the outer shell and mount, it looks as if the new model is still made by Annaheim Manufacturing; however it has a 3500 rpm motor versus the typical Annaheim 2800 rpm.
All the Annaheim 1 h.p. units (Titan, Waste King, Waste Maid, Franke, etc., etc.) that I could find specs on still have the standard 2800 rpm. there is also a newer 1.25 H.P. in the Titan badged Annaheims, but it too, is 2800 rpm.
If you check out GEAppliances.com, they offer both the 2800 rpm and the new 3500 rpm models in their One Horsepower disposal product line-up.
If anyone has purchased one of these-- 1.) Are they still Annaheim Units? 2.) Are there any other differences beside the motor speed?
In the past I havae had several Annaheim units. Ge branded and Waste King Branded. All the 1 and 3/4 units I have had shared one annoying feature.
The turntable often would jam a piece of corn corn or bone beween the impeller and turntable, rendering it stationary (i.e. the impeller wouldnot swivel). This threw the turntable out of balance and caused noise and vibration and reduced grinding to very little.
Sometimes turning the disposer on and off many times, or cramming more into the hopper to try and dislodge the impeller or having to manually break loose
the impeller, was the solution. Corncobs and bones were the worst offenders and it seemed to happen almost every time. This occured in all four different units that I owned over the years.
Have any of you experienced this?
Because of this annoying genetically endowed problem in the higher HP Annaheim units, I gave up on them several years ago.
The problem never seemed to surface in their 1/3 and 1/2 HP units that I have also owned, due apparently, from a much different and smaller turntable/impeller design.
My hope is that this new GE model has a different turntable/impeller configuration, along with the higher motor rotational speed.
If any of you have the new GFC1020V, please share your experience with us.
|Post# 524961 , Reply# 1   6/16/2011 at 19:21 (4,560 days old) by bwoods ()  || |
Here is the link to the new high-speed disposer.
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|Post# 525000 , Reply# 2   6/17/2011 at 00:02 (4,559 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)  || |
I have had that same problem with something causing the swivel impellor to stick,and not swing out for shredding.Sometimes and most of the time-it cures itself.It is annoying.I so wish GE would go back to building these themselves and bring back the CARBOLOY shredders.Those were so effective-better than anything else out there.another problem I have had with Aneheim units is-the rectifier burns out-esp if you put a heavy load in the disposer.and the brushholders are plastic-they can melt and cause the unit to stop working.(Chinese built machines).If these were better built-METAL end bells and brushholders on the motors,and higher current rectifiers-than these would be MUCH better.And the metal endbell could serve as a heatsink for the rectifier.
|Post# 525069 , Reply# 3   6/17/2011 at 10:26 (4,559 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)  || |
Why would anyone buy anything but a ISE built disposer? The Anaheim units have Always been substandard junk, just look at the plastic sink flange and pot metal mounting parts the rest of the unit is about as bad. We did all the ISE disposer service in Washington DC for over 15 years, and yes ISE had its problems but they always worked well and didn't scream at you running at nearly 3000 RPMs.
|Post# 525182 , Reply# 4   6/17/2011 at 21:34 (4,559 days old) by bwoods ()  || |
Yes, it is annoying when the impeller jams on the Annaheims. Sometimes it clears itself,eventually, and other times needs assistance.
I agree there is nothinglike a series wound motor in the GE with the Carbaloy cutter. Fastest dispoal Iever had on pork chops bothes and corn corbs.
The only problem with the series-wound GE's (beside the vacuum cleaner like noise) is the grinding chamber is small and I frequently have watermelon rinds and corn cobs wedge themself above the turntable. If they are broken into small enough pieces before putting them in, though, that problem doesn't occur. It's just a little extra work.
The induction GE's with Carbaloy cutters don't have this problem as the grinding chamber is larger. However, the motor speed is only 1725 rpms versus 5000+ in the series wound motor units.
Any of you have a pre-ISE Viking disposer?
I am somewhat disappointed with a $450 disposer being so noisy. The motor transmits vibrational noises (in the form of pulsating "beats") to the sink, even when no garbage is in the unit. I don't know if that was a particular problem with mine, with the turntable being slightly out of balance or a slightly bent armature. Or maybe just a problem with a very powerful motor transmitting harmonic oscillations to a stainless steel sink.
A rubber cushon in the mount would have probably prevented this. the Vikingmount,though, is metal to metal.
Anyone else have a pre-ISE Viking or a Hobart Kitchen-Aid that does this?
|Post# 525212 , Reply# 5   6/18/2011 at 00:47 (4,558 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)  || |
I have used both Carboloy shredder equipped GE machines-the universal motor ones and the machines with induction motors.the induction ones are better I feel.The induction motor gives more torque.and of course its quieter.I have used only one style of "Viking" type disposer-was under KA brand.the machines are SLOW but shred more thorughly than others.and do not turn the machine off until its done shredding.Otherwise it jams.When it does if its a model without the "wham-Jam breaker"you have to force it by hand.ISE is nice-but they need to shred more thoroughly-they can leave long strands behind if the machine is grinding banana peels or other stringy items.the ISE's need undercutters.One of their newer models has them.I have had to use roto rooter type drain cleaners in some places with ISE disposers that had been used on stringy waste.ISE's are durable-they just need to shred finer.And they should go back to the cast shredders than the stampted ones.I see to many bent up stampted shred rings.the vibration issues-single phase induction motors have more vibration than their 3 ph cousins.So yes-the single phase motor disposer should have the cushion mounts to isolate it from the sink and plumbing.For that matter any disposer should be designed that way-no matter what type motor it has-when the unit is shredding-the vibration will be more.