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Post# 528267 , Reply# 3   7/2/2011 at 11:15 (4,681 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Hi there -
You mentioned that cycles are getting stuck. Does it complete other cycles or does it get stuck at the same place each time you do a wash? Either way - there could be an issue with the timer (or timer motors) or a component the timer controls might be acting up and have caused an issue with the timer. Also - water leaks can vary greatly without more specifics - door gasket, water valve, drain valve, hoses, constant rinse, or the typical leak on these - the pump seal. It wouldn't hurt to keep it on hand and rebuild it if you did buy a new one. These still pop up on CL often, so getting a parts donor shouldn't be too difficult if you are patient. Then when the new tall tub Whirlpool dies in a few years, you can put back a refurbished, real KitchenAid. :) Ben (who loves using his KDS-17 every day) |
Post# 528297 , Reply# 5   7/2/2011 at 15:19 (4,680 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 528301 , Reply# 6   7/2/2011 at 15:40 (4,680 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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AHS is famous for replacing with inferior products. Stand your ground. You can always get a cash settlement and buy what you want.
The leak sounds easy to fix. Probably just a standard hose that needs to be replaced. The timer may not be as easy to find, but they do show up on ebay every so often. You could easily handle the job of replacing both items.
If you like your KDS-17, you'll absolutely love a KDS-18, which is considered by many to be the best dishwasher KA ever made; the first to include not only an upper wash arm, which makes loading a breeze, but also an additional downward spray module on the top of the tub. It may take some time, but 18 series Superbas do appear on Craigslist once in a while, and it's not a big deal to remove and install a dishwasher, even if you've never done it before. I'd expect connections to match up to your 17 series exactly, or close to it.
Your situation sounds just like my sister's. She has AHS and had repair techs dispatched numerous times for her KDS-18 and they never fixed it. All it needed was a good douching and proper detergent. She ended up replacing a perfectly good machine because the techs AHS sent out were lame and felt the KA wasn't worth fixing.
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Post# 528414 , Reply# 7   7/3/2011 at 09:32 (4,680 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)   |   | |
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Another option is having your timer rebuilt. There is a company called Midwest Timer that has rebuilt several members' timers. They, or their competition, may be worth a call. Find the source of the leak, hopefully it's just a worn hose. Parts can be a challenge to find, but they are out there and once the parts required are identified, we often know sources.
Additionally, Kitchenaid is not the same level of quality it once was. It's a far cheaper machine now than it was when yours was new. Also, electronic control boards are extremely expensive and are generally less reliable than a mechanical timer. If you replace the machine, you'll likely be replacing the replacement in a few ears. I work in an appliance parets store and we sell a LOT of electronic control boards for a LOT of money. Personally, I'd stay away from them. Good luck, Dave |
Post# 528434 , Reply# 9   7/3/2011 at 11:56 (4,680 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 528508 , Reply# 11   7/3/2011 at 18:18 (4,679 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)   |   | |
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Post# 528521 , Reply# 12   7/3/2011 at 20:19 (4,679 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)   |   | |
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Bob, the seal kits for the 15-16-17 models are all the same so it will work just fine if needed. Hopefully the leak has been caught early enough so that the shaft and top of the flinger are still in good shape. |
Post# 528578 , Reply# 13   7/4/2011 at 08:34 (4,679 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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The HOW should pay for a new KA superba. The closest replacement is a standard tub KM Ultra wash DW Model 13442 in white. This is the only DW made in the world that has a 1/3 HP motor and will clean a really dirty load of dishes in under an hour. This machine will cost you between $300 and $500 depending on whether you install it or have it installed.
The real problem here is the HOW you have gotten nothing but wasted time and you may be out any coe-pay that you had to pay for this wonderful service you received. Had you not had this coverage you cold have called a good reputable local repair company and had this fixed in one or two calls.
HOWs are never a good deal for appliance problems for many reasons. 1. They only attract the worst contractors that don't have a good reputation and need work so they sign up to work for these warranty companies. [ these are often people that you do-not even want in your house ] 2. Try looking up appliance repair companies in your area in Annegies List, local consumer protection office or contact local real-estate companies that do a lot of property management and get the names of firms that do a good job in your area. These firms will seldom if ever be the same ones that the HOW companies use. 3. If I were buying an existing home that had a HOW I would insist that they take the coverage away and reduce the house cost by the same amount. You would likely do better and you will also find the companies in your area that will be your long time allies in keeping your home in good shape. |
Post# 530051 , Reply# 16   7/11/2011 at 18:58 (4,671 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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