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Post# 532625 7/24/2011 at 17:30 (4,521 days old) by peteski50  (New York) |
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I cant believe that with the newer models cycle times may be even longer!!
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| Post# 532629 , Reply# 1 7/24/2011 at 18:01 (4,521 days old) by henry200 () | ||
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Insanely long wash cycles is about the only option left if manufacturers are being forced to make dishwashers that consume less than four gallons of tepid water. | ||
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Post# 532643 , Reply# 2 7/24/2011 at 19:45 (4,521 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 532645 , Reply# 3 7/24/2011 at 19:50 (4,521 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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| Post# 532649 , Reply# 4 7/24/2011 at 20:24 (4,521 days old) by bleacho () | ||
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its not a big deal!!! hey, if it runs 2 or more hours, and is quiet, and saves on electricity, and only uses 4.5 gallons of water, whats the difference.. as long as the dishes come out clean... | ||
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Post# 532657 , Reply# 5 7/24/2011 at 21:11 (4,521 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 532660 , Reply# 6 7/24/2011 at 21:23 (4,521 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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| Post# 532679 , Reply# 10 7/25/2011 at 01:58 (4,521 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
There have been times I've waited for the dishwasher. If it's late at night or something and it's running and I'm waiting for it to finish to unload it before bed just to get that chore out of the way.....
But I guess we really have no choice do we. Every dishwasher each manufacturer makes will be energy star. They won't make a model that's not energy star..At least I doubt they will. Could be wrong. I wonder when it will stop? I guess the energy star this year isn't good enough? Each year they get more stringent. I wonder if 2013 will be 2 gallons of water instead of 2012's four gallons. | ||
| Post# 532680 , Reply# 11 7/25/2011 at 02:24 (4,521 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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Where is the savings? People, you're missing the point.
Yes, they are intended to be more economical to run by using less water, power and (possibly) detergent....but you, me and a lot of other people know they are not designed to actually 'pay for themselves' in savings.
So stop expecting it....you'll just make yourself feel let-down when they don't materialise. | ||
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Post# 532681 , Reply# 12 7/25/2011 at 02:25 (4,521 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Read This Article The Other Day
And was gobsmacked looking up and down the chart at cycle times. Two, three or more hours just to wash a load of dishes?
Suppose if one does not use the machine daily and or runs it last thing at night before the household goes to sleep such lengthly times won't matter. OTHO if one is entertaining,holidays with large gatherings, and doing lots of cooking/baking/pre-work you better hope these machines are quiet because they will have to run when people are about. By the way, Miele dishwashers came in dead last in CR's ratings. Several Bosch models were on top including the number one spot. | ||
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Post# 532687 , Reply# 13 7/25/2011 at 05:03 (4,521 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 532706 , Reply# 14 7/25/2011 at 08:50 (4,521 days old) by gmmcnair (Portland, OR) | ||
 My new dishwasher, bought in May 2011, does a cycle with 5 gallons of water in just under 2 hours. Gets the dishes very clean too, as long as it's properly loaded and I'm using a good detergent. Mine was only $450, and it's a specialty model (portable/convertible). My old D&M model too 75 minutes start to finish, used 10 gallons of water, and my Frigidaire 18 inch took just under 2 hours, and used 7.5 gallons of water (and held a small load). I don't care how long it takes, as long as it gets the dishes clean, and it does so frugally. | ||
| Post# 532710 , Reply# 15 7/25/2011 at 09:34 (4,521 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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| Post# 532719 , Reply# 17 7/25/2011 at 10:33 (4,521 days old) by DishwasherRules (Italy) | ||
Madness!
I know this applies to the US for the time being... but I hope manufacturers in Europe won't start to follow their respectable American counterparts! We've recently had an Energy Label change here, but the timings of the programmes used for the EL evaluation have not changed so far.
I use my Bosch DW about 3 times a week and I always use the Auto 55-70°C programme: the Normal-Eco 50°C just takes too long in my opinion (between 2h20 and 2h40) and I just choose it when I start my machine and then go out for the day/evening. I've also found out that in my case the savings on my water and electricity bills are just in terms of few cents if I go for the Eco, so I prefer to use my faithful DW on a programme allowing me to take advantage of its full washing power. I do want to do my bit for our planet and environment, but as A440 rightly pointed out what's the point in making machines that save water and energy but that won't be able to last a long time with a normal use in the average American or European household? Creating more piles of junk at city dumps, like if we needed any more? Another matter of concern to me, besides the washing result, is the quality of the rinsing process: how can these machines cope with the recent tablets formulations which are quite aggresive despite the environment-friendly labels we see on their packages? And what will the future bring about? Here in Italy, "Altroconsumo" (the Italian equivalent of CR in the US and Which? in the UK) is always complaining in its reviews that dishwashers are still too greedy on water... for heaven's sake, I wonder which an acceptable per-cycle water consumption could be according to them: maybe 5 liters could be enough, in a hopefully far future, to run a full cycle for normally soiled tableware plus pans according to their panels of so-called experts, but I wouldn't dare buying such a DW! | ||
| Post# 533021 , Reply# 20 7/26/2011 at 17:40 (4,519 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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