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Post# 536535 8/12/2011 at 11:48 (4,786 days old) by peteski50  (New York) |
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I did some investigation and got a instruction manual probably related to a few models. I will first post the new models and try to post the instruction book inserts. You guys be the judge!
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Post# 536536 , Reply# 1 8/12/2011 at 11:49 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 536537 , Reply# 2 8/12/2011 at 11:49 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 536538 , Reply# 3 8/12/2011 at 11:50 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 536539 , Reply# 4 8/12/2011 at 11:51 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 536540 , Reply# 5 8/12/2011 at 11:52 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 536541 , Reply# 6 8/12/2011 at 11:52 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 536542 , Reply# 7 8/12/2011 at 11:54 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 536543 , Reply# 8 8/12/2011 at 11:54 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 536544 , Reply# 9 8/12/2011 at 11:55 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 536545 , Reply# 10 8/12/2011 at 11:56 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 536547 , Reply# 11 8/12/2011 at 11:57 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 536548 , Reply# 12 8/12/2011 at 11:59 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 536549 , Reply# 13 8/12/2011 at 12:00 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 536550 , Reply# 14 8/12/2011 at 12:01 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 536551 , Reply# 15 8/12/2011 at 12:03 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02213469000P?prdNo= | ||
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Post# 536552 , Reply# 16 8/12/2011 at 12:10 (4,786 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Old ultra wash!
I was unable to obtain the manual for the older model just posted but on the above posted link you guys can see the manual and compare the specs between the new and old ultra wash.
I personally like the older models better - quicker washing time, higher washing temp, split silverware basket. So if you want a dishwasher get their quick before supplies run out! | ||
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Post# 536577 , Reply# 19 8/12/2011 at 14:02 (4,786 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 536610 , Reply# 20 8/12/2011 at 17:13 (4,785 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Kenmore!
This Whirlpool vedio shows how one spray arm operates at a time most likely like the Frigidaire units. Kenmore doesnt seem to mention this but it must do the same thing!
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Post# 536611 , Reply# 21 8/12/2011 at 17:45 (4,785 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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US DWs use more water than European models Keep in mind that US machines are a LOT larger inside and hold a lot more dishes. Both the top and bottom racks are about 4" deeper front to back and both racks are at least an inch wider, this translates into at least 25% more usable room inside to say nothing how much more easily you can wash large items that wouldn't fit in European machines at all. | ||
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Post# 536684 , Reply# 23 8/12/2011 at 22:56 (4,785 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Whirlpool!
On the Whirlpool website the new models are not displayed. I was just checking AJ Madison and the bottom of the page has 3 new models with instructions and all!
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Post# 536727 , Reply# 24 8/13/2011 at 08:07 (4,785 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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LOAD CAPACITY OF DWs Hi Nathan all I can suggest is to measure the racks I know just the other week when I was looking at the Bosch DWs at the local Lowes store there was at leash a 4" difference in the front to back space. Maybe these new KM Ultra DWs are smaller [ I would never have one anyway ]
. In my W Va house I installed one of the KA International Collection DWs that was made in Germany in the 1990s in the utility clean-up area. At first I was impressed with how quite it is, but then I found that nothing fits in it { I installed it to clean large pots and pans and parts from the outdoor Jenn-Air electric grill ]. And then I found out that it runs for hours and hours, and it does eventually get things clean looking but the final rinse water sitting in the sump is still dirty and the machine starts to smell by the time we use the house again in a few weeks.
If anyone would like this KA IC DW its free to a good home and a have a box of spare parts for them. | ||
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Post# 536835 , Reply# 26 8/13/2011 at 18:37 (4,784 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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New Whirlpools/AJ Madison Peter, thanks for the posting and new products. As of the present, you can still get KitchenAids (fairly high-end models) and Maytags with soft-food disposer. These new ones all have the filters. And as usual the cyclews are longer--I can just hear y'all all bellowing now!! And the overnight cycle is like 7 hours long--looks like all they did was incorporate their old 4-hour soak option into a typical cycle and voilla, the overnight cycle. As y'all know, I"m not a rinser and I don't really scrape all that well either. I used to talk with Greg quite extensively about him not scraping all that well nor rinsing when he had his Asko. He very rarely found anything in the filter. I think the big main difference between the ASKO and these Whirly products is that the ASKO washed at very high temperatures of 155 to 170 degrees for main wash and emulsified anything in the filter that had collected and down the drian it went. These don't have very high water temps, even with high-temp scrup option selected. I wish these manufacturers would let me test these new products out. My environment would still be beyond what a typical family does to their dishes and dishwasherss. I'd love to get them to see the most intense with cooler temps wouldn't survive well in my applicatons. I vaguely remember GE is working on their next dishwasher platform that will be produced at appliance park. Will be interesting to see if their new products have filters or soft-food disposers. If KitchenAid can offer product with soft food disposer that has a 48-50 dB level, I think that is very vey silent. I thnk it's hogwash they are using the excuse that nongrinder models are quietest. They just odn't wanna try and come up with technology that disposes of soft food and is quiet so they cop out and use European design.
I remember ONE TIME I loaded our 1960 Waste King with berakfast dishes without pre-rinsing and ran it. My mom was completely grossed out that there were scrambled egg remnants in the filter at the bottom of the tub. So much for not ever prewashing anything that went into that dishwasher (or any subsequent dishwasher at our house--unless she was out of the house) | ||
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Post# 536856 , Reply# 27 8/14/2011 at 00:02 (4,784 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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New dishwashers!
I don't object to the filters and in fact I do like the way these new ones look. The loading looks easy and their is something cool about them. I also don't mind that each wash arm operates seperatly. What I don't like is the extreamly long operating times and well as the lower temperatures. To me this is a big lack in flexability as well as going several steps backwards. If at least if the wash temperature was higher it would also contribute to a faster washing time. I dont understand what the reason is. And yes I did get a laugh at that overnight up to 7 hour cycle. (how crazy is that)!
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Post# 536902 , Reply# 28 8/14/2011 at 09:04 (4,784 days old) by RE563 (Fort Worth, Texas) |
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I have to laugh
Growning up, we didn't have a dishwasher in the house. Mom would always tease us about getting one, then shut up about it. Back then (in the 1970's), I would hear people complain that the dishwasher would take an hour from start to finish. I never that that an hour was that long, considering that, (in most cases), 20 to 30 mins of the 60 mins was drying time. When I had my Bosch in Florida, it would take 110-120 mins. That never bothered my either. Infact, I liked that it took that long. It only used like 5 gals of water in the normal wash and everything always came out shinny clean. I would usually turn the dishwasher on around 9pm at night, so I didn't care how long it took. If I had to run it during the day, It was usually right after a meal and by the time I was ready to start preparing the next meal, the dishes we're done and I would unload before starting to cook. If it was a holiday or family get together, I would load it with utensiles and pots, Pans, and turn it on just before we would all sit down to eat.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. To me, these Kenmore Ultra Wash HE, remind me of the Bosch Wash system. Same Filter design, Same Wash arm shape, and spray jets. Only real difference is that Kenmore has an exposed heating element and he Bosch does not. I would so buy one of these right now. I only had to clean my filter once a month or sometimes less. Most times when cleaning the filter, simply running it under faucet with hot water would clean it off. It was very rare that I had to do any scrubing to it. | ||
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Post# 536907 , Reply# 29 8/14/2011 at 10:20 (4,784 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Cycle Times!
It is not even the cycle times themselves but the amount of time they use to heat water makes no sense - if anyone looks above it states it takes 25 to 45 minutes to heat water to 130 (what happened to heating to 140) I thought that was a more standard temperature. Also I personally want my dishes washed in hotter water. Also older models would go from 120 - 140 in about 15 minutes max! So I cant figure what this is all about. All this new stuff is so unnessary. Is the newer detergents designed to work in cooler water or what? Even with the cutback on water usage I cant figure out why it takes so long to heat it and why it is using lower temperatures to wash with. It should be the opposite taking less time to heat and utilizing higher temperatures.
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Post# 536910 , Reply# 30 8/14/2011 at 10:50 (4,784 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Water Usage! | ||
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Post# 536919 , Reply# 31 8/14/2011 at 11:13 (4,784 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Thanks for posting the manual; as always, it's an education to learn how the newest machines work. Interesting that temps are getting lower. Wonder which brand will move it down to 120-125 degrees? I would imagine that detergent manufacturers are trying to come up with formulas that will work in lower temps.
I, like others here, have wondered how cycles can be so long, yet energy use is reduced. The manual states that there are "soak" periods in which the motor/pump isn't running. Suppose that explains a few things. I don't know how they could possibly use smaller motors and pumps. I think manufacturers have pushed those downsizes to their practical limit. As for individual/alternating rack washing, I'm fine with it. My LG (and a Frigidaire I had before Smokey The Maytag) washes each rack alternately and results are spectacular. As long as the LG remains reliable (a big problem with LG dishwashers, according to Consumer Reports) I've never had a better dishwasher--and I've had a lot of 'em! | ||
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Post# 536924 , Reply# 32 8/14/2011 at 12:10 (4,784 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Peter, lower wattage motors and lower wattage heating elemtns. Both translate to much less power draw over time. That was also a part of the intent of the design.
I suspect for most households' applications, the 1-hour wash cycle is more than sufficient. And the "enhancement" to that cycle over the generation of machine I have is that the dry cycle is an option for this cycle, where as, my quick wash 30 minute cycle doesn't offer that capability. | ||
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Post# 536943 , Reply# 33 8/14/2011 at 13:13 (4,784 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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One Hour Wash!
I think a lot of people will use this option and I bet at least half. The problem is that you cannot use the hi temp or sani option with this cycle. So if you dont have hot enough water the dishes wont get really clean. Also people will probably just keep prerinsing. All told in my openion this process is highly ineffective. Really cracks me up that this cycle is the shortest.
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Is that silverware separating lid thing a PITA, or do you like it? It seems like it would take much longer to place each piece in the little hole provided. I would probably swing that cover open on the first use. alr | ||
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Post# 536997 , Reply# 36 8/14/2011 at 15:56 (4,783 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Peter, I really think most peopill rinse most everything off anyway. I also am of the belief most families wouldn't use any options unless there was an illness in the family. I odn't know of anyone that doesn't pre-rinse other than myself around here. They all think I"m insane.
Arthur, you're right. It is a PITA. I keep my baskets separate. The big main one, I simply removed the lid all together when I gotmy machine several years ago. The two smaller baskets, I kept the lids on just in case I needed them for small items. the slots work very well for a bunch of kinves that might end up poking through the bortom of the basket without the lids. I find flatware doesn't get as clean in my tough environment with the pieces being put in the little slots. | ||
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Post# 537211 , Reply# 37 8/15/2011 at 16:49 (4,782 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Kenmore 360!
I saw this video and this is supposed to be the TOL series. I personally think this is piss poor performance not to mention something else to break as opposed to a straight arm. Their are also to many pauses also! I am anxious to hear how you guys like this one!
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Post# 537266 , Reply# 38 8/16/2011 at 02:25 (4,782 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI) |
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I actually think the wash arm is a good innovation, it would get to every area of the machine. That said, I HATE the spray and pause, I think a very stupid design. No wonder a cycle takes 3 hours. Put a decent pump behind the spray arm system , let it run for 20 or 30 minutes and be done with it. | ||
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Post# 537294 , Reply# 39 8/16/2011 at 07:22 (4,782 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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NEW WASH ARM DESIGN Matt you are correct that this is a good wash arm design and like you I just cannot accept having a HOT DW running in my kitchen for even two hours. DWs have very little real thermal insulation around them, I am sure that it is not even R-2 in insulating value. The Frigidare DWs that have been around now for almost ten years do the alternate wash arm thing and they work very poorly and end up just moving food residue from one area of the machine to another. I guess one of these years I will try one of these new machines just to see how bad they are. Although my friend and coe owner Jason has had at least 20 different DWs in his house over the last ten years and none have worked as well as the 1/3 HP motor WP power-clean design and he always goes back to them. | ||
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Post# 537300 , Reply# 40 8/16/2011 at 07:48 (4,782 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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NEW WASH ARM DESIGN | ||
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| Post# 537333 , Reply# 42 8/16/2011 at 10:27 (4,782 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) | ||
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Post# 537335 , Reply# 43 8/16/2011 at 10:33 (4,782 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Post# 537364 , Reply# 44 8/16/2011 at 13:06 (4,782 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Asko!
I did some more research - I think the Asko is a better choice even though nothing is of the best quality. I do like the fact that you have more control over getting higher temperatures and the cycle times are a bit more reasonable in length!
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Post# 537375 , Reply# 45 8/16/2011 at 13:43 (4,782 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA) |
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New wash arm design | ||
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"The Whirly-pee" time for a prostate exam? The new wash arm design is clever but that pitifully weak spray doesn't look like it could knock a stray piece of parsley off a plate. | ||
| Post# 537398 , Reply# 47 8/16/2011 at 16:18 (4,781 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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kenmore dishwasher,
i have bought around 1998 a kenmore dishwasher and was very satisfy with it and around 2005 bought yet again a kenmore dishwasher witch i am very satisfy and if i have to buy a dishwasher again aka eather because of a move to a new house or because the one i had broke because it did its time i would most certainly buy a kenmore dishwasher again and i would not be suprise that in a few yesrs from now dishwasher use the power of steam to clean dishes the water sprays would mostly be use to disloge food from the plate and that would mean that water consomation would also be reduce if you look at the smart wash cycle its an high efficency cycle. just look at this model in my link CLICK HERE TO GO TO pierreandreply4's LINK | ||
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Post# 537451 , Reply# 48 8/16/2011 at 21:44 (4,781 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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WHY WHY WHY do we insist on going to a design that includes a filter that is not self-cleaning?
Are none of the DW manufacturers smart enough to add an option that doubles or triples the motor/pump speed (in a "special" cycle/programme)to make machines perform the way they used to? Noise, water, comsumption, TIME efficiency, and results! It's getting to the point that new dishwashers may have to be used just to rinse and dry-- and at that just and expensive drying rack to not have to LOOK at dishes (whether clean or dirty) on, in or near the sink. I wish we could all get together and jury-rig a new, stock machine to really work quickly and well. I really want to get a good-old fashioned commercial undercounter machine that does a two minute wash and two minute rinse. Even if I have to run the damned cycle three times! | ||
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Post# 537452 , Reply# 49 8/16/2011 at 21:53 (4,781 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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WHAT?
I've only had 20 d/w's in 10 years? I'm slowing down. I think I've had 7 in this house alone.
Maybe I'll try one of these newfangled things. I guarantee you it won't clean like the power clean nor will it be able to handle the food that goes in there but I'll give it a shot. I'm sure it will be the cause of a few Joan Crawford moments. | ||
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Post# 538483 , Reply# 52 8/21/2011 at 10:02 (4,777 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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A few thoughts!
I could be wrong but I was informed all these DW's used alternating spray arms.
As for the cooler temps most people do have their water heated to 120 or 125 so why to just maintain that temp with a really long washing time is crazy. Origionally the purpose of lowering you water heater is to have the DW heat to a higher sanatizing temp. If people choose to wash their dishes at a lower temp, that is fine with me. Most loads I would do I want done with good hot water and the quicker the better. The problem with these newer models is that it doesnt give you a choise as to how you the consumer want to wash your dishes. | ||
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Post# 538490 , Reply# 53 8/21/2011 at 11:04 (4,777 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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these newer models is that it doesnt give you a choise as to
Peter, yes they do, IF they are knowledgeable about their machine. It's called, you select high-temp or sani temp options. That will get you 120 or 130 degree main wash temps, respectively. Final rinse temps will be 140 or 155 degrees respectively. I have to admit, I did think of you while my dishwasher was running last night. I had a pretty strange, and unusual load last ight that didn't purge any soil out the filter at those points inh the cycle. But, it DID drain the prwash water, which surprised me immensely because it's been extremely rare it does this without any purge. (It must have been the darker colored tomato sauce colored prewash water that tripped it to do that, same with lots of hot chocolate residue in mugs in the winter). For the lightest soil, the main wash is only about 30 minutes long and is about 115 degrees. Last night's main wash was 40 minutes, probably got to 120 degrees. When there is a purge in prewash, the main wash cycle is 58 minutes minimum and it does vary as to how hot the water heats to. But what was the kicker in the pants was the final rinse was almost 35 minutes long simply because it had to heat the final temp to 140. I remember think, oh this would drive Peter nuts. I don't really obsess over it, I just let it do its thing the way it was designed to do.
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Post# 538493 , Reply# 54 8/21/2011 at 11:31 (4,777 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 Peter, the reason for lowering the household water is to save energy. Whether or not the dishwasher heats higher is incidental, not directly related. If the dishes can come clean out of the machine at lower temps, then even more water-heating energy is saved. Also, if you read the details closer on Pages 16 and 17 of the instruction manual you posted, it seems to be saying that the rinse is normally at 140F even when the wash is 105F. Page 16 says High Temp increases the wash temp (on Normal and Pots & Pans cycles) from 105F to 130F. Nothing is referenced about rinse, so one would assume in that case the rinse stays at the "standard" temp. Page 17 says that Sani Rinse increases the main wash from 105F to 120F, AND the final rinse from 140F to 155F. So ... maybe I'm interpreting it wrong ... but I take it to mean that the standard temp of the final rinse is 140F. Selecting High Temp option increases the wash from 105F to 130F, leaves the final rinse at 140F. Selecting Sani Rinse increases the main wash from 105F to 120F (10F lower than High Temp) and the final rinse from 140F to 155F. High Temp PLUS Sani Rinse would (theoretically) give a 130F main wash and 155F final rinse. Perhaps someone who knows the details can clarify. | ||
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Post# 538587 , Reply# 56 8/21/2011 at 16:46 (4,776 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Glenn, there is an owners manual for the Kenmore Elite Pro online. It said the main wash temp was raised from 105 to 120 for both high-temp and sani-rinse options. The final rinse temp was raised from 140 to 155 when Sani--rinse option was used, so that leads one to believe the final rinse for no options is 140 degrees.
I just looked at the highest-end KitchenAid Superba and it said high-temp scrub raised main wash temp from 105to 120 degrees. The sani rinse option raised main wash temp from 105 to 130 and final rinse temp from 140 to 155. I particularly like to use sanirinse option when I've been cooking with beef or chicken and I have utensils in there that were used with the raw meat. | ||
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Post# 538598 , Reply# 57 8/21/2011 at 17:14 (4,776 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Temperature!
If these dishwashers do heat the rinse water to 140 without options - that is a good thing. It is still disappointing that the hi temp wash option doesnt go to 140! Biggest issue here is even when hi temp option is used it takes a long long time to heat to 130. (whats the point in having a high temp option if it isnt really high temp)
I would also like to get more info on these dishwashers. I would also like to know if the spray arms work independatly as I thought or if is reserved for the TOL models! Thanks Peter | ||
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Post# 538615 , Reply# 58 8/21/2011 at 19:07 (4,776 days old) by RE563 (Fort Worth, Texas) |
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I would be willing to bet | ||
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Post# 538631 , Reply# 59 8/21/2011 at 20:24 (4,776 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Robert, the only cycle which guarantees a prewash is the Pots & Pans cycle and probably the 1-Hour cycle. Smart Wash, Normal, and Light China, the sensor is working full time to determine how full as well as the soil level of the load it's dealing with. Prewashes are eliminated if the soil is fairly light. At one of its pauses in the prewash, if it sees no need for a water change, then the next time the pump turns on, it advances to the main wash period and dispenser opens. Other than heated dry, no other option is available. As for Smart Waash and Normal, options will force the software into a standard default sequence of events. High-Temp will force a prewash, water exachange, and fill for main wash. TurboZone option simmply executes the same sequence as Normal with high-temp, but it also devotes time to the turbozone rotating little sprayers at tehe back being used for periods during the prewwash as well as main wash phases. As noted, Sani-Rinse will also force a prewash because it's going into the same sequence as that with hiih-temp selected, except the final rinse is heated to 155 instead of 140. I've also seen this on the cycle chart buried under the machine. Without options other than heated dry selected, heavy soil sensed in Normal cycle will cause it to select one of two temp options, adjust main wash time, may add additional post wash rinses. Smart Wash offers the widest range of main wash temp set points, based upon soil level sensed, and will also add more time to main wash and may add additional post wash rinses too. Pots & Pans will use maximum amount of water. High temp option or Sani Rinse option on Pots & Pans may increase temperature set during main wash. That's about as flexible as the cycles get. the best option is to leave all options off, unless heated dry, if you want the machine to do what it's designed to do. If you experience some less-than-satisfactory results with Normal and the sensors, then hit high-temp wash, but as stat4ed above, results may not be as good as with Pots & Pans and even with High-temp option selected.
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Post# 538746 , Reply# 60 8/22/2011 at 11:12 (4,776 days old) by RE563 (Fort Worth, Texas) |
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Dishwashers with the "Smart" wash cycle have the alternating wash arms. The user guide page 16 above applies to the model in the link. L.P. CLICK HERE TO GO TO magic_clean's LINK | ||
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Post# 538880 , Reply# 62 8/22/2011 at 21:13 (4,775 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Ultra Wash! | ||
| Post# 538882 , Reply# 63 8/22/2011 at 21:24 (4,775 days old) by magic_clean (Florida) | ||
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Peter, Yes the models with the Smart wash cycle have the alternating spray arms. The 1301 unit referenced does not. | ||
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Post# 538886 , Reply# 64 8/22/2011 at 21:30 (4,775 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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