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AEG Protex - welded tub?
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Post# 539757   8/26/2011 at 13:29 (4,488 days old) by splittub (Europe)        

Out of curiosity, I had a look at the spare parts for a new AEG Protex machine (the AEG L87680FL). As far as I can tell, this high-end machine appears to have a welded tub! See the link I provided, and part 150 ("CLUSTER,WELDED,WASHING,P10 G60") along with the "EXPLOSION VIEW" diagram.

Could it really be true that even high-end washing machines from AEG now come with a welded tub?


Post# 539784 , Reply# 1   8/26/2011 at 16:55 (4,488 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

Yes I'm afraid it's quite true, the previous 8kg series machines didn't have a welded tub. This is progress apparently.


Post# 539827 , Reply# 2   8/26/2011 at 18:56 (4,488 days old) by ultimafan ()        
Oh, thats such a shame...

Now if the bearings would go wrong, the entire machine would be on the way out, so it seems AEG want to evade servicing on their machines too (though I'd expect it to be the BOL or MOL, not the TOL Protex range! If I was anyone planning to buy a Protex, I'd also check if the drum was welded rather than screwed! I only hope its not!

Post# 539911 , Reply# 3   8/27/2011 at 04:14 (4,487 days old) by splittub (Europe)        

@ultimafan: Yes, I too would expect that a BOL machine and some (not all) MOL machines might have a welded drum, that's just to be expected in this day and age (as unfortunate as it is). But for a TOL machine such as an AEG Protex L8xxxx or L9xxxx (see my link in this post for an example) to have a welded drum, that's just horrible. More to the point, I believe it contradicts the common sense dictum that "you get what you pay for", as you just wouldn't (or shouldn't) expect such cost-cutting measures in a TOL product from a reputable manufacturer like AEG (Electrolux) - you would expect to get a quality product with a split drum.

(As it happens, I purchased a TOL AEG washing machine earlier this year, and was a bit disappointed when I found out just a few months later that AEG had launched a new range of very nice looking washing machines, i.e. the Protex range, from which I probably would have chosen a new model instead of the old range model I had already bought. I did try to tell myself that as far as washing machines are concerned these days, newer models doesn't necessarily means better models, and now it seems I was right, as thankfully the non-Protex AEG machine I bought has a split tub.)

I've noticed that the Protex machines have side walls with narrow horizontal lines, unlike the previous AEG range (as well as Electrolux/Zanussi models) which had 3 wide vertical lines, and I've also noticed some Electrolux/Zanussi models with these new side walls. I would assume that these machines are based on a recent Electrolux design, and that Electrolux-based machines other than the AEG Protex ones may also have a welded tub. Is anyone here able to confirm this? If I'm right, then at least Electrolux deserves some credit for providing visual cues on the washing machines that ought to be avoided...

Do any other manufacturers (such as Bosch/Siemens) also have welded drums on their TOL washing machines these days, or is Electrolux the first to do so?


Post# 539951 , Reply# 4   8/27/2011 at 12:29 (4,487 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

The old 8kg machines had a screwed tub. The 6kg and 7kg of the old design have a welded tub and have done since about 2007. There is one basic John Lewis branded machine JLWM1200 which has a 5.5kg drum and that is still screwed rather than welded. Seems strange that the cheapest John Lewis machine still has a split tub.


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Post# 541250 , Reply# 5   9/2/2011 at 15:43 (4,481 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Not just a welded tub.....

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Hey Guys

A friend was going to buy one until he discovered they are Chinese!!


Post# 541251 , Reply# 6   9/2/2011 at 15:47 (4,481 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

this is one of many reasons why i lothe the electrolux corp of today

Post# 541252 , Reply# 7   9/2/2011 at 16:00 (4,481 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Dear lord...

electrolux...a company I adored chopping its reputation to pieces.

I actually prefer the indesitcompany products I have now. Oh and of course the LG which I miss dearly and is built like a tank!


Post# 541254 , Reply# 8   9/2/2011 at 16:13 (4,481 days old) by splittub (Europe)        

@SeamusUK: What is it that suggests that these machines are Chinese? Are they labelled "Made in China", or are there some subtle signs? Because to me, they don't really look anything like the Little Swan (or whatever they're called) machines that are rebadged as Zanussi these days.

Regarding Electrolux chopping its reputation to pieces, just why are they doing this? Are they just aggressively cost-cutting themselves into oblivion, essentially sacrificing long-term brand equity for short-term profits, or what is it that's going on?

Post# 541347 , Reply# 9   9/3/2011 at 03:53 (4,480 days old) by dascot (Scotland)        

Not as far as I've seen. They may contain parts made in China, but I've seen one that said Made in EU on it - I don't recall if it was specific on country.

Post# 541377 , Reply# 10   9/3/2011 at 07:49 (4,480 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

The Protex machines are made in the Italian Porcia factory.


Post# 541457 , Reply# 11   9/3/2011 at 16:37 (4,480 days old) by ultimafan ()        

I made the same assumption too, but they can't be Chinese, as the base of the washing machine is exactly the same as the previous range, which we all knew to be the original Italian design. The door makes it look chinese, resembling the Haier/HEC look, really it's supposed to be a hangover of the Electrolux Insight washing machine design. Obviously there are Chinese Zanussi's on the market, but they are pretty recognisable with the different door and drum.

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