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Thread Number: 36251
Introducing the Picture Window Lady Kenmore Roto-Rack!!!!!!! |
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Post# 540137 8/28/2011 at 13:12 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140  (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 540138 , Reply# 1 8/28/2011 at 13:13 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 540139 , Reply# 2 8/28/2011 at 13:15 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 540140 , Reply# 3 8/28/2011 at 13:16 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 540141 , Reply# 4 8/28/2011 at 13:16 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 540142 , Reply# 5 8/28/2011 at 13:19 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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I had daunting task ahead of me. When I installed a window in our 1957 KitchenAid the interior door of that machine was much less complicated as all of the controls were located on the lower panel and there was no dispensers. Here is what I had to do to this machine in order to cut out the door and install a large picture window... 
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Post# 540143 , Reply# 6 8/28/2011 at 13:22 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 540144 , Reply# 7 8/28/2011 at 13:22 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 540145 , Reply# 8 8/28/2011 at 13:24 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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There they are all installed. I plan on using detergent tablets as obviously I wont be able to pour powdered detergent into the detergent dispenser anymore.
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Post# 540146 , Reply# 9 8/28/2011 at 13:25 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 540147 , Reply# 10 8/28/2011 at 13:27 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 540148 , Reply# 11 8/28/2011 at 13:28 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 540149 , Reply# 12 8/28/2011 at 13:29 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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I did this in the same manner as the KitchenAid dishwasher so they both match.
I think the frame looks great and very professional. 
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Post# 540150 , Reply# 13 8/28/2011 at 13:31 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 540151 , Reply# 14 8/28/2011 at 13:35 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 540153 , Reply# 15 8/28/2011 at 13:56 (4,617 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi) | ||
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Way Kewl Robert. You "da man"! We had a 1971 Lady Kenmore from 1985 thru 1990,for only 25.00,then had an UltraWash from 1990 thru 2009. The LK was alot of fun,liked it alot! | ||
| Post# 540158 , Reply# 16 8/28/2011 at 14:11 (4,617 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California) | ||
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| Post# 540162 , Reply# 17 8/28/2011 at 14:30 (4,617 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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Post# 540165 , Reply# 18 8/28/2011 at 14:37 (4,617 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 540168 , Reply# 19 8/28/2011 at 14:53 (4,617 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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Wonderful | ||
| Post# 540172 , Reply# 20 8/28/2011 at 14:58 (4,617 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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You Are! A GENIUS!...Love Anything LADY KENMORE! | ||
| Post# 540176 , Reply# 21 8/28/2011 at 15:30 (4,617 days old) by henry200 () | ||
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$#@&%*$ wonderful!!! Robert, you've done it again! I can't wait to see it! I suppose I'll have to wait until the convention in September but dang, you did an awesome job. Congratulations on another amazing bit of washer wizardry. | ||
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Post# 540196 , Reply# 22 8/28/2011 at 16:25 (4,617 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon) |
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Excellent Robert | ||
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Post# 540197 , Reply# 23 8/28/2011 at 16:33 (4,617 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 540233 , Reply# 24 8/28/2011 at 19:14 (4,617 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Kenmore Dishwasher! | ||
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Post# 540251 , Reply# 25 8/28/2011 at 19:58 (4,617 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Far freaking out! | ||
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Post# 540259 , Reply# 26 8/28/2011 at 20:25 (4,617 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL) |
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| Post# 540260 , Reply# 27 8/28/2011 at 20:31 (4,617 days old) by retropia () | ||
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Wow, what fun! | ||
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Post# 540270 , Reply# 29 8/28/2011 at 21:29 (4,617 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 540278 , Reply# 30 8/28/2011 at 21:59 (4,617 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Very professional look to a beautiful  dishwasher! Robert thats super, now I gotta do it with a KA machine SOON! Love windows - and I don't mean computers!
Is that rack just spinning by the force of the water and what does that do for the glass ware in it? I would think it would chase the spray around and that would weaken the impact of the spray on the glassware??
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Post# 540282 , Reply# 31 8/28/2011 at 22:27 (4,617 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles) |
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Just Beautiful . . . Who woulda thought that after all these years that Lady would look better undressed? | ||
| Post# 540286 , Reply# 32 8/28/2011 at 22:54 (4,617 days old) by lebron (Minnesota) | ||
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| Post# 540288 , Reply# 33 8/28/2011 at 23:05 (4,617 days old) by vtmike55 () | ||
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WOW! Great Job Robert SO.... ummmm When did you say You and the better half are comming to Vermont to do the same thing to my WP LOL! Great Job I always wanted to see what goes on in a D W when the door is closed. Mike | ||
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Post# 540289 , Reply# 34 8/28/2011 at 23:08 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Is that rack just spinning by the force of the water and what does that do for the glass ware in it? I would think it would chase the spray around and that would weaken the impact of the spray on the glassware??
Jon the upper rack is driven by a special spray tube the directs water both up and towards the 2:00 position. So far so good with the results. 
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Post# 540290 , Reply# 35 8/28/2011 at 23:11 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Here is the spray tube during the last breaths of drain when its under almost no pressure. You can see how the water is directed at the Roto-rack, but under a much greater force during the wash. I tried to take a picture of the tube during wash, but you can't even see it as the force of the main wash arm is so great.
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| Post# 540291 , Reply# 36 8/28/2011 at 23:11 (4,617 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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Post# 540292 , Reply# 37 8/28/2011 at 23:12 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 540293 , Reply# 38 8/28/2011 at 23:12 (4,617 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 540296 , Reply# 39 8/28/2011 at 23:34 (4,617 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California) | ||
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| Post# 540307 , Reply# 41 8/29/2011 at 00:35 (4,617 days old) by A440 () | ||
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Awesome Job Robert! I have a soft spot for these old D&M Dishwashers! You really make them proud! Thanks for sharing your fantastic work! Brent | ||
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Post# 540313 , Reply# 42 8/29/2011 at 01:54 (4,617 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI) |
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Beautiful work! It's a true labor of love to be sure. 120 hours is a lonnnggg time, but well worth it. | ||
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Post# 540319 , Reply# 43 8/29/2011 at 03:06 (4,617 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho) |
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Robert, you have the most amazing skills and abilities! The dishwasher is a work of art. | ||
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Post# 540334 , Reply# 45 8/29/2011 at 06:22 (4,617 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York) |
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Post# 540339 , Reply# 46 8/29/2011 at 07:11 (4,617 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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WINDOW DOOR ROTO RACK DW Robert you have out done yourself on this one, I think it is almost time for you to build the Unimatic combination Washer-Dryer that Frigidare thought about building back in the late 1950s.
You could get a good picture of the Roto-Rack only by removeing the bottom wash arm and placing a large bowl over the water outlet so we only see the Roto-Rack operating. On our 1966 KM DW the Roto-Rack would often get going so fast that it would make a loud bumping sound if it was not loaded evenly.
The DW that you started with is probably the best looking D&M LKM DW ever and the D&M machines were still a little better built till 1968 when the tub was enlarged. It is great that you found an almost unused machine to invest all this time in, this is the great thing bout many portables is that often people just didn't get into the habit of using them and we come along and find these great appliances to collect. | ||
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Post# 540340 , Reply# 47 8/29/2011 at 07:15 (4,617 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI ) |
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Post# 540341 , Reply# 48 8/29/2011 at 07:27 (4,617 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Robert thanks for the explanation on the roto-rack now I see and I bet it does C L E A N the glasses! Its black bakelite too - the best! I just love those CAST BUTTONS no paint or guess work there you could feel your way across the cycles.
I never had a complaint when I owned several D&M portables- they cleaned hands down!
And it has 6?? rinses?? Holy Jicama! Next we need to build a Nixie Tube display D/W! | ||
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Post# 540348 , Reply# 49 8/29/2011 at 08:08 (4,617 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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| Post# 540351 , Reply# 50 8/29/2011 at 08:39 (4,616 days old) by franksdad (Greenville, South Carolina) | ||
Wow! | ||
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Post# 540358 , Reply# 51 8/29/2011 at 09:36 (4,616 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) |
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Bravo Robert! | ||
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Post# 540361 , Reply# 52 8/29/2011 at 10:05 (4,616 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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It does appear that not a lot of water is hitting the door so it might explain silverware at the ends of the racks and items in the corner not getting their fair share.
Hey Kelly, there is plenty of water hitting the glass, but in the extreme corners the force is slightly less due to the circular pattern of the water out of the spray arm. I have noticed it's best to load the silverware so it is facing outwards towards the center of the machine. I remember the demo displays at Sears but by that time it was the 2 square rack design. I so remember the demo display roto-rack dishwashers in Sears. Fred asked me about them the other day and I couldn't remember if they were clear on all sides or just the front door was clear. I do remember them being lighted from the interior. Does anyone remember how the roto-rack demonstration machines were constructed in Sears in the early 70s???? What I mainly remember is being eight years old and so F$^&*%g amazed by seeing the wash/spray action and that upper rack spinning so fast. Of course what I really remember is the disappointment in my mother pulling me away "as we had no time to stand here watching this", we needed to spend our time in the clothing departments, UGH-NO!!!!! Fine, be that way, I'll just wait 40 years and make it myself, hmmph! lol It is great that you found an almost unused machine to invest all this time in, this is the great thing bout many portables is that often people just didn't get into the habit of using them and we come along and find these great appliances to collect. I couldn't agree with you more John! The best vintage dishwashers I find generally are portables. They are less convenient generally to shelp over to the sink and hook up for the average housewife, so they get used a lot less. This machine has some use, but I suspect it was less than a year total. One of the things I did in this installation was to be sure to keep the drain hose as short as possible, coiling it right at the top of the water level at the bend in the tank. This allows the drain pump to completely clear the exposed porcelain area of the sump of water leaving it completely dry by the end of the dry cycle. These D&M machines many times let water sit in the sump causing it to rust. I noticed this during my testing that small areas of rust were already forming with a 1/4" of water left down there. I want to protect and keep this machine in good shape for as long as possible. Obviously with a D&M machine that's going to be a bit of a challenge. And it has 6?? rinses? Four rinses Jon and two washes. I suspect the machine uses about 14-15 gallons for a complete Normal or 150 degree cycle. | ||
| Post# 540368 , Reply# 53 8/29/2011 at 10:34 (4,616 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
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Post# 540383 , Reply# 55 8/29/2011 at 11:50 (4,616 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Dave just looked your Dekatron WOW just fell down a black hole! We need a Dekatron driven Nixie counter display for Roberts DW!
Take a peek at this site:
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Jetcone's LINK | ||
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Post# 540385 , Reply# 56 8/29/2011 at 11:59 (4,616 days old) by kimball455 (Cape May, NJ) |
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| Post# 540387 , Reply# 57 8/29/2011 at 12:06 (4,616 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Post# 540388 , Reply# 58 8/29/2011 at 12:15 (4,616 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA) |
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That may be the coolest thing ever. But wait! What if the light changed color with the cycles? It could compete with that fab GE range! | ||
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Post# 540393 , Reply# 59 8/29/2011 at 12:44 (4,616 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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Robert, that machine is totally fantastic! Your talents never cease to amaze me. I like the rest of your kitchen, too - especially the yellow GE range. | ||
| Post# 540399 , Reply# 60 8/29/2011 at 13:17 (4,616 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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Robert, as I remember the displays at Sears it was only the front door panel that was clear, not the sides.
Terry | ||
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Post# 540400 , Reply# 61 8/29/2011 at 13:36 (4,616 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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Post# 540406 , Reply# 63 8/29/2011 at 14:03 (4,616 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 540407 , Reply# 64 8/29/2011 at 14:09 (4,616 days old) by joelippard (Hickory) |
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Wow | ||
| Post# 540424 , Reply# 65 8/29/2011 at 16:13 (4,616 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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Impressive, Robert, simply and completely impressive. I am looking forward to a video of a Bobload in this machine. Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
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Post# 540431 , Reply# 66 8/29/2011 at 16:54 (4,616 days old) by earthling177 (Boston, MA) |
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Way cool! | ||
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Post# 540433 , Reply# 67 8/29/2011 at 17:05 (4,616 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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WINDOW DOOR ROTO RACK DW | ||
| Post# 540467 , Reply# 68 8/29/2011 at 19:11 (4,616 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
Oooh! | ||
| Post# 540482 , Reply# 69 8/29/2011 at 20:34 (4,616 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass) | ||
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I knew that if I waited long enough... everyone else would say everything that I was thinking ;-) Saved me a lot of typing!!! Fantastic job, Robert!!!! Rich | ||
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Post# 540483 , Reply# 70 8/29/2011 at 20:35 (4,616 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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| Post# 540503 , Reply# 71 8/29/2011 at 22:20 (4,616 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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just awesome job adding that window-looks authentic too!-a lot of people would think it came that way. | ||
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Post# 540506 , Reply# 72 8/29/2011 at 22:33 (4,616 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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yup the demo I recall in Sears was entirely of plastic with the usual guts.
Robert, did you say what the year of that machine was/is? Is it a Canadian model? Mother Toggle's '68 and '73 models were W-R-R-W-R-R-D. Interesting to see yours starts with a rinse and has two covered detergent cups. What is the Short Wash on yours? The 73 model was R-W-R-R Also my memory is fading on me... Wasn't the bimetal detergent cup trigger connected via the timer, very briefly, in series with either the motor or the heater to give it only 60 volts? (120v/2 =60v)? How are today's detergent cups triggered? | ||
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Post# 540509 , Reply# 73 8/29/2011 at 22:55 (4,616 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Thanks everyone, I'm thinking it was just a clear panel on the front, probably with a waterproof light sitting in the machine. I don't remember clear side panels per se, with the roto-rack but my memories are the amazement of the simply seeing it running through a clear door.
Toggles it was 100% American, here it is in the spring/summer 1965 Sears Catalog... 
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Post# 540513 , Reply# 74 8/29/2011 at 23:42 (4,616 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Nice AD! | ||
| Post# 540564 , Reply# 77 8/30/2011 at 08:18 (4,616 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Wonderful job. I am floored. Now, can we see a video with a full load? Please!!! | ||
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Post# 540571 , Reply# 78 8/30/2011 at 09:02 (4,615 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 540621 , Reply# 80 8/30/2011 at 13:57 (4,615 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 540622 , Reply# 81 8/30/2011 at 14:12 (4,615 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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I am curious about the extra vent you added at the top. Is it vented at the front top of the machine?
For those asking about the'53 Hotpoint Dishwasher that came out of the kitchen to make room for the LK, that is going down to the basement for now. My rule for me now is if a washer, dryer, dishwasher or vintage TV comes in, one has to go. Well three machines have come in recently, this LK Dishwasher, Brand New 1962 GE and Norge Timeline. Since I'm using the Norge for parts only, two machines need to go. I'm sending the Youngstown Dishwasher to Jon/Jetcone as he really wants the machine. I'm sending the Apex Dish-a-Matic to Mike/Dishwashercrazy, I know he will really appreciate adding that rare window-lid machine to his collection.
OK OK DONT SMACK ME TOO HARD! Don't worry toggles, I won't, you'd like it too much ;-) | ||
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Post# 540951 , Reply# 82 8/31/2011 at 21:52 (4,614 days old) by jetaction (Minneapolis) |
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Wow! | ||
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Post# 828702 , Reply# 83 6/19/2015 at 23:34 (3,226 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Should Be a Common Option for Us Water Babies
I don't think I'd get this far in execution, but I would have tried to do this
because my memories of dishwashers in stores in the 60's were see through windows and water splashing around. It was always disappointing to see that the consumer never got one of those windowed dishwashers. Very late to comment, but "bravo!" | ||
| Post# 828765 , Reply# 84 6/20/2015 at 09:52 (3,225 days old) by brib68 (Central Connecticut) | ||
Wowie!
Like everyone else on here, it seems, this takes me back! I have so many fond memories of just standing in Sears at the Lima Mall watching the demo dishwasher in action. Pretty sure my folks would just leave me there and go shopping, knowing I wouldn't budge from that spot. That's pretty much my early shopping mall memories...the visible DW at Sears, eating Hot Sam pretzels on the bench around the fountain, hoping Woolworth's had Matchbox cars, and thinking it was normal to have to go THROUGH Penney's to get from one end of the mall to the other. I was probably 9 or so before I realized there was a Lazarus in the mall, and in my teens before I knew there was an Elder-Beerman, too. We never went down that branch of the mall any farther than the MCL Cafeteria.
So, um, thanks, everyone...y'all are more fun (and cheaper) than actual therapy ;) | ||
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