Thread Number: 36367
KitchenAid (Hobart) KDB-21 Parts? |
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Post# 541739 , Reply# 1   9/5/2011 at 07:37 (4,610 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)   |   | |
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i collect kitchenaids, have about 2 dozen but only one 21 model! i don't have any parts myself, especially not a face plate or that button. most of my machines are the older 17 and earlier models.
i have heard over and over and over again stories from folks who replaced their old kitchenaids because they were a bit ratty looking or just "old" and all of these folks were disapointed with their new machines! your kitchenaid may not look it's best but it will outclean anything on the market today and do it much quicker! some of the new one's take 2 hours! your's takes about 1/2 hour! it might be missing a button and the dial scratched up but the important parts you may need are all still out there. pump seals are still made by hobart, as well as motors. and on e bay a lot. racks are out there on e bay a lot. i personally would keep it as long as i could! i have several old "12" model kitchenaids that still have the original pump seals and don't leak a drop and run like new at over 50 years old! hobart made these dishwashers with the same quality as their commercial machines, using the same pumps and motors! you won't find a better machine. the 21 was also the first model from hobart do use a reversing motor and do away with the drain valve and solonoid that previous models had. so that's another key part you don't have to wear out! look at it as a bit of nostalgia in your kitchen! maybe someone else here will have spare parts. keep your eyes on craigs list and e bay, you might find a 21 model for sale very cheap. i see them on craigs list ever so often for 25 bucks or so! you could buy one for parts! then you'd be set for life! i would not jump into a new machine just because it's prettier or more modern or boasts of "less water usage"! the new one's use less water but they clean less as well! give me any old kitchanaid any day of the week!!! hopefully someone here can help you with parts. good luck with it! pete |
Post# 541751 , Reply# 2   9/5/2011 at 09:47 (4,610 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Here is a link to the owner manual so that you can get an idea of what's on the cycle dial to help you decide whether to use normal or light wash cycles.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO appnut's LINK |
Post# 541830 , Reply# 3   9/5/2011 at 15:53 (4,610 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 541883 , Reply# 4   9/5/2011 at 19:53 (4,610 days old) by russ300 ()   |   | |
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Good advice, thanks for the manual too - very appreciated, guys! |
Post# 541916 , Reply# 7   9/5/2011 at 22:27 (4,610 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 541961 , Reply# 8   9/6/2011 at 06:37 (4,609 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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For any DW that has flat panel inserts you can just go to your local sheet metal company and have them made. My partner Smitty often makes panels for me for various projects.
On the shaft seals I buy the little bellow and carbon part from the parts list for 1990s MT DWs, they are less than $10 a peace and they will fit all KA DWs 15-25 series and most WP & MT DWs from around the same period of time. I even used one to fix the leaking pump seal in my 1960 KM combo, it has worked great for more than 15 years now. |
Post# 542005 , Reply# 9   9/6/2011 at 13:29 (4,609 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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When Nate and I revived the Thermador THD 3600 we found sheets of aluminum at Orchard Supply Hardware that provided the look of stainless steel at a fraction of the cost (picture attached). We only had to make one cut with tin snips to make upper and lower inserts fit. I think I've seen the same vendor's products at Lowe's too. |
Post# 542089 , Reply# 10   9/6/2011 at 20:03 (4,609 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 542092 , Reply# 11   9/6/2011 at 20:17 (4,609 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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I suspect -- no, it's my fervent wish -- that the Thundering Thermador has finally met its maker. Or it should at least be heinously haunting him. After it left my kitchen it didn't take long to start pulling its "film at 11" BS on Nate and was expeditiously 86'd, let's hope never to torment another household. |
Post# 542202 , Reply# 12   9/7/2011 at 11:01 (4,608 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)   |   | |
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my toes are fine, i don't take offense to much that anyone says anymore! that's the joy of gettin older!!! this site is all about information, at least to me. i post on occasion, i ask questions on occasion. the point is to get the info to the person needing it. if someone else has better info or more accurate info all the better!!!!! that's what makes this site an encyclopedia of knowledge!!!! and that's what distinquishes it from bein a boring internet chat room!
i would be happy to sell you my 21 model, very cheap! i'm not collecting anymore, i did what i set out to do. i proved to myself that in a 2 year period i could aquire all the machines that interested me. i ended up with a flair stove that i love, 6 rollermatics that i have always loved, a 1-18 that i like, and about 45 dishwashers from the 50's, 60's, and 70's mostly kitchenaid and g.e. with a sprinkler of frigidaire thrown in. but now i have pretty much lost interest, thank God! i'm savin money! it was expensive gettin all those machines shipped and takin road trips. so the 21 model i have i really don't want. i have no interest in any kitchanaid made after the 17 models ended. i will sell that 21 for 30 bucks but i won't part it out. i like to leave em as i found em! i see you are in pennsylvania so i imagine it's too far for you to travel. but keep me in mind if you ever want it, it will be here, not throwin any away. and combo, thanks for the info on those pump seals. i have always bought them from hobart or off e bay at about 40 bucks each. don't think i need anymore, have a good amount of parts stockpiled here for any kitchenaid repair i will do in the future but it's good to know! again, great info that only this site can provide! your feedback on my pump seal storage question was much appreciated also. i got a lot of good opinions on that one, your's provided the best overall answer! at least i know i can let these machines set without worry! good luck with your 21, again if you want mine let me know please. |