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Thread Number: 36450
1950s Swanmaid dishwasher like kitchen aid new find |
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Post# 542934 9/11/2011 at 08:31 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050  (Durham Britain) |
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 Hi Guys,
I've done it again, and bought another dishwasher, again with the hope of finding a true vintage machine that i could use.
The machine is a 1950s uk maid Swanmaid machine , but it bears very close similarities to vintage KitchenAid machines.
Its rough in condition and sadly someone removed the motor and pump.
Is there any chance of being able to restore this do you think?
Enjoy the pictures
thanks
Richard
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Post# 542936 , Reply# 1 9/11/2011 at 08:35 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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the name- cute | ||
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Post# 542937 , Reply# 2 9/11/2011 at 08:37 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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inside | ||
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Post# 542938 , Reply# 3 9/11/2011 at 08:38 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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racks | ||
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Post# 542939 , Reply# 4 9/11/2011 at 08:39 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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top rack | ||
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Post# 542940 , Reply# 5 9/11/2011 at 08:40 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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inside | ||
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Post# 542941 , Reply# 6 9/11/2011 at 08:41 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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the rotor arm | ||
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Post# 542944 , Reply# 7 9/11/2011 at 08:43 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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filter | ||
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Post# 542946 , Reply# 8 9/11/2011 at 08:44 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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sump | ||
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Post# 542950 , Reply# 9 9/11/2011 at 08:45 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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the remaining insides | ||
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Post# 542951 , Reply# 10 9/11/2011 at 08:47 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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the internal heater tank | ||
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Post# 542953 , Reply# 11 9/11/2011 at 08:49 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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the manufacturer | ||
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Post# 542957 , Reply# 13 9/11/2011 at 09:07 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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its home the machine has sat in the pantry for 50 years of a manor home called Asthall Manor , see the link to wikipedia
CLICK HERE TO GO TO ricky5050's LINK 
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Post# 542958 , Reply# 14 9/11/2011 at 09:20 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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link to brochure i hope its ok to link this previous thread as it has a brochure on the machine and uk which test report CLICK HERE TO GO TO ricky5050's LINK | ||
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Post# 542961 , Reply# 16 9/11/2011 at 09:53 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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link to Roberts window machine | ||
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Post# 542962 , Reply# 17 9/11/2011 at 10:02 (4,608 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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thanks | ||
| Post# 543008 , Reply# 18 9/11/2011 at 13:42 (4,607 days old) by oldwasherguy (Ladson SC) | ||
Wow! | ||
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Post# 543034 , Reply# 19 9/11/2011 at 15:39 (4,607 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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richard, oh yeah, I'd say that's a Kitchenaid with different color vinyl on the racks and a different brand label with appropriate electricals to support the kind of electrical current y'all have. Good luck with it!!! I'm thrilled you managed to save it. And it's so nice to have another dishwasher afficianado around.
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Post# 543061 , Reply# 20 9/11/2011 at 17:06 (4,607 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Thats one cool | ||
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Post# 543066 , Reply# 21 9/11/2011 at 17:48 (4,607 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 543077 , Reply# 22 9/11/2011 at 18:58 (4,607 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York) |
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thread 33346 I posted a Swanmaid brochure that seems newer than this model | ||
| Post# 543108 , Reply# 23 9/11/2011 at 19:53 (4,607 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California) | ||
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Looks like my grandmother's early KA from the 1950. Handle, upper rack, and wash arm all the same. I believe hers had an on/off switch on the right in the same position as yours. Could your machine have been produced in the UK under license? It looks for all the world like a rebadged KA KDS-2 or thereabouts. | ||
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Post# 543126 , Reply# 24 9/11/2011 at 20:38 (4,607 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Steved | ||
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Post# 543128 , Reply# 25 9/11/2011 at 20:46 (4,607 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney) |
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So what brought you to Asthall Manor? Thanks for the interesting link. I found myself fascinated with the Midford sisters, especially Diana and Unity. Now there is some interesting and spirited aristocracy, not like those bland and pasty royals. | ||
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Post# 543131 , Reply# 26 9/11/2011 at 20:56 (4,607 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York) |
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Jon search just for "swanmaid" thats how I found it. It was inder a "Which?" magazine article on dishwashing machines | ||
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Post# 543182 , Reply# 27 9/12/2011 at 05:13 (4,607 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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Thanks
Hi thank for the comments, I'd love to get it up and running, Ive even thought about stripping a modern dishwasher for parts , the only thing is it cannot accommodate a top spray arm as there is not enough clearance, so a modern puny lower arm would not be strong enough to reach top rack, if I used original lower cast iron wash arm, it would need a hefty motor ie an original kitchen aid one! And if I found one it basically means I need all the other electrics etc.
Regarding it's history the owner says it's sat in the pantry for 50 years so probably broke down at about 10 years old, It looks like it's had a hard life so was probably used almost as a commercial machine perhaps with large numbers of guests at the manor. I only found out Asthalls history after goggle ing it for the courier to collect, but the owner was lovely and very helpful If you look at Post# 542958, Reply# 14 I've already included the link to the report on which dishwashers and steved copy of the brochure ( I hope that's ok ) Richard | ||
| Post# 543183 , Reply# 28 9/12/2011 at 06:13 (4,607 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
That Spray Arm... | ||
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Post# 543281 , Reply# 30 9/12/2011 at 15:48 (4,606 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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Yes I think you're right | ||
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Post# 543310 , Reply# 31 9/12/2011 at 20:26 (4,606 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Interesting find and history. It wouldn't be unusual that it might have been built under license with KA's patents and receiving royalties etc. Like for example other than Hoover which had plants in Canada and the UK, other brands like Eureka, Kirby, Lewyt etc had some of their vacuums manufactured in Canada by a 3rd party for the Cdn market depending on the model
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Post# 543316 , Reply# 32 9/12/2011 at 20:59 (4,606 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Thanks Steve | ||
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Post# 543317 , Reply# 33 9/12/2011 at 21:02 (4,606 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Wow looking over that Swanmaid | ||
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Post# 543418 , Reply# 34 9/13/2011 at 13:11 (4,605 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 543438 , Reply# 35 9/13/2011 at 15:31 (4,605 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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Hi
Hello jet cone yes the motor pump and drain valve missing, , hi Robert yes I cannot understand why a manufacturer would copy so much but change little things like the hole shapes and pump arrangements.
I'm tempted to try a modern single outlet dw pump and connect to modern dw electrics and use the internal heater tank to PRE heat the water , just not too sure about the electrics !! R | ||
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Post# 543473 , Reply# 36 9/13/2011 at 19:52 (4,605 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Swanmaid dw
Many years ago ie mid 80's I worked at a fishing hotel near to Hereford, It had what looks to be the exact same machine I remember the cycle was only about 10 mins once it had heated the water in its tank, The service man came one day and was explaining the reason for the heavy wash arm it was designed so that when the hot water came out of the tank it would absorb some of the heat thus protecting the dishes and when it rinsed it held the heat thus helping to keep it hot to allow it to dry. I know when you pressed the silver button the machine would click and the light would come on then you heard the hissing of the water heater then it would run and fill so you heard gurgling then the swish of the wash after 5 mins of washing it would drain then do the same again to rinse when the light went out it was all over time to empty and refill. I think it would do about 20 cycles a day it was classed as a commercial. Sorry cant help with anything useful it just evoked a memory :)
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| Post# 543602 , Reply# 37 9/14/2011 at 17:27 (4,604 days old) by dogboy44 (Los Angeles) | ||
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Wouldn't it be great If the trend would be moving back to shorter cycle times like this? I have a friend with a new Bosch that take 135 minutes for a cycle! | ||
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Post# 543607 , Reply# 38 9/14/2011 at 18:44 (4,604 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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The cycles are all extended | ||
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Post# 543608 , Reply# 39 9/14/2011 at 18:48 (4,604 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Kewl | ||
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Post# 543900 , Reply# 40 9/16/2011 at 12:44 (4,602 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain) |
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Shorter sounds good!
Hi all the way Ozzie describes how the machine works seems about right from what I've read, and it sounds a really good way to work now, I have a modern beko dw and it has a 30 min was at 35'c which is excellent I've even used this cycle by mistake on dirty dishes.
But I would love to get a working vintage machine. Parallel universe ? Perhaps in need doctor who ! Richard | ||
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