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Post# 545806   9/25/2011 at 20:14 (4,446 days old) by drnls ()        

I have settled on SQ TL washer, just not sure which model. I have read about all differences. We are a family of 4, wash 4-8 loads/week, we don't dry everything, prefer to hang most shirts, shorts, jeans - general outerwear. There is a store about 1 hour away that stocks the 311 and 412 - but not sure if I should just order the 542 or 432. They range in price from $589, $629, $649, $669. I watched the you tube videos also. Also we don't have heavily soiled clothes. Main issue would be providing as few wrinkles as possible.

Post# 545809 , Reply# 1   9/25/2011 at 20:31 (4,446 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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You might want to check with - yesterday they had all four models on sale, and ship free anywhere in the country. You'd probably not pay any tax either.

As to which model, probably any of the 2-speed models would suit you. They all have Perm Press cycles.

I have been tempted the last few weeks to buy a AWN311 while I still can, but can't justify the $550+ for a toy.

Good luck, let us know what you decide!


Post# 545811 , Reply# 2   9/25/2011 at 20:58 (4,446 days old) by drnls ()        

I talked with USApp the other day. Shipping to my area would be two to three weeks - don't care to wait that long. Semi-local store could have upper units in 3-4 days. Thanks, Nelson

Post# 545812 , Reply# 3   9/25/2011 at 21:03 (4,446 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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The 412 is 2 speed.  Of the instock ones, I'd go for that. 

Post# 545816 , Reply# 4   9/25/2011 at 21:21 (4,446 days old) by cehalstead (Charleston, WV)        
great machine

I have the 412. I love it.

Post# 545818 , Reply# 5   9/25/2011 at 22:08 (4,446 days old) by drnls ()        

I'm sure the 412 would be adequate but for another $40 I can get the 542. Is it worth the extra cycles? Nelson

Post# 545834 , Reply# 6   9/25/2011 at 22:43 (4,446 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
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this depends if you have some clothes that requieres a hand wash cycle and if you need an extra rinse option i would say it might be usful to have these cycles and with the 542 you also gain a buton for selecting the speed see next 2 pictures lol and this link as well.

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Post# 545835 , Reply# 7   9/25/2011 at 22:45 (4,446 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
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Here is a picture of the washer as well. For me in my case i might buy as a daily driver when the washer i have breaks a hueabsch washer (canadian speed queen washer dryer set).

Post# 545838 , Reply# 8   9/25/2011 at 23:09 (4,446 days old) by drnls ()        

I have studied the control panels individually. What gives you control over the spin on the 542? Thanks, Nelson

Post# 545853 , Reply# 9   9/26/2011 at 03:36 (4,446 days old) by cehalstead (Charleston, WV)        
extra cycles

I had a real Maytag (1997) with all the bells and whistles. I can't say that there is anything on it that I miss.....

Post# 545857 , Reply# 10   9/26/2011 at 05:18 (4,446 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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On the 542, the knob that says Fabric Selector is actually for selecting one of 4 wash/spin speed combinations.  Regular give normal wash & spin speeds.  Permanent Press gives Normal Wash speed and slow spin speed.  Knits gives slow wash speed & Normal Spin Speed and Delicates gives slow wash and slow spin speed.  the 432 SHOULD have 3 of those speed combinationos built into the timer.  Meaning Regular, Permanent Press, and Delicate/HandWash on the timer dial equate to the 3 above.  There is not the 4th combination (called Knits) for slow wash and fast spin speed.   I don't believe I caught anywhere in the thread what machine you are replacing with the upcomiing Speed Queen. 

Post# 545863 , Reply# 11   9/26/2011 at 06:26 (4,446 days old) by drnls ()        

I am replacing a Frigidaire FL that has odor. Tired of trying to clean the unit. Tried a Maytag Bravos 700 model for 5 days. Put a folded shirt in load of clothes in the Bravos, when the cycle was done it was still folded. Lowes picked it up yesterday. Nelson

Post# 545869 , Reply# 12   9/26/2011 at 07:10 (4,446 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
Thank you for the info on the maytag bravo washer

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Thank you for the info on the maytag bravo washer about a T-shirt or any other shirt remaining folded so i think for my next washer i will go with an amana top load washer dryer set for my next daily driver when the set i have breaks this set to be precise lol

Post# 545870 , Reply# 13   9/26/2011 at 07:21 (4,446 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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A 2SP washer is good if you line dry and don't like to iron and you will never be sorry if you buy TOL as you soon forget where the extra money went.

Post# 545874 , Reply# 14   9/26/2011 at 07:44 (4,446 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I'm with a little extra now....and have every available option for the future fabric care....rather than kick yourself later wishing you had the extra options......this is one of the few machines that once purchased, you may not have to buy again......

I always opt for the high speed spin, wrinkles or not, and then place in the dryer for a few minutes, and ready to hang wrinkle free

these machines have a very large capacity, and turn over loads very well......the 700rpm spin is a nice option.....

you will want to raise your water level though, to take full use of the machines full capacity

Post# 545879 , Reply# 15   9/26/2011 at 08:39 (4,446 days old) by drnls ()        

Pierre - what model Amana is that? A local store has the NTW46WXQ in stock. That is what I was going to purchase before finding this site and reading about SQ. Anyone else have info on the above Amana and how it compares? Thanks, Nelson

Post# 545881 , Reply# 16   9/26/2011 at 08:53 (4,446 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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The Amana is a direct drive Whirlpool shredder under the hood.  With probably Energy Star water saving levels and cold hot water.

Post# 545884 , Reply# 17   9/26/2011 at 09:22 (4,446 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
model number is NTW4800X

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i think thats the model here is the link to the amana ws if you went to do some comparison and its the 16 cycle model washer here is a money shot of the tub with clothes in the tub

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Post# 545885 , Reply# 18   9/26/2011 at 09:23 (4,446 days old) by drnls ()        

Peter - I take it by shredder you mean shreds clothes? I prefer to wash my clothes in cold hot water - ha ha. I think I'm going to order the SQ 542. Thanks for all the help and info. Nelson

Post# 545925 , Reply# 19   9/26/2011 at 13:38 (4,446 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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You are making the better choice, Nelson...

Post# 546005 , Reply# 20   9/27/2011 at 00:18 (4,445 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
You won't be sorry

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I installed a SQ AWN412 in my friends mother's laundry room recently. They absolutely love the machine and it does a better job faster than the junktag atlantis i replaced. I do need to adjust the water levels though as the Eco-Nazis screwed with the pressure switch controller. No dumbed down water temps on these workhorses either. Hot wash is all hot water! The 542 gives you more control over the cycles but the mechanism is the same. Go for it and have many years of great wshing. Nick
P.S. If you want to see what is going on during the cycle just unscrew and hold down the right lid hinge.

Post# 546038 , Reply# 21   9/27/2011 at 08:30 (4,445 days old) by drnls ()        

Ordered the 542 yesterday, should be in Friday but I won't have time to pick up till next week.

Post# 546041 , Reply# 22   9/27/2011 at 09:04 (4,445 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)        

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Great choice Nelson! I have two 542's and love both of's always good to get the TOL and have every possible washing option. I love the matching dryer as well. Now, start stockpiling your dirty clothes and have a wash-a-thon when it comes in. :) Oh, and don't forget to put on the leg caps, and add a few gallons of water to the wash basket before turning it on (to prime the pump). In the meantime, go to and download the install guide--it has a great install checklist for those things. Enjoy!

Also, pick up some color inserts for the knobs - 4 colors to choose from and they really make the washer stand out...if you wanna deck it out a little bit. :)

Post# 546044 , Reply# 23   9/27/2011 at 09:12 (4,445 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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The washer is tested at the factory and already has water in the pump.

Post# 546045 , Reply# 24   9/27/2011 at 09:13 (4,445 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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The manual does actually state that one needs to add at least a quart of water to the machine before starting it for the first time to prevent overheating and leaking of the pump seal.

Post# 546046 , Reply# 25   9/27/2011 at 09:17 (4,445 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)        

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Yep, I added several gallons to be on the safe side. :)

Post# 546113 , Reply# 26   9/27/2011 at 15:54 (4,444 days old) by cehalstead (Charleston, WV)        
lid switch bypass

There's an easier way to bypass the lid switch...behind the console, on the right side (facing washer), you can feel around and find the lever that controls the switch (it is flat brass, if you can see behind). Wedge a piece of something (I used a rubber spatula blade over the flat piece) and the switch is permanently bypassed, or at least until you change it. You might have to "experiment" to find just the right place for blocking...but it will work. If anyone has a problem finding that, private message me with your phone number, and I'll walk you through the process.

Post# 546122 , Reply# 27   9/27/2011 at 16:07 (4,444 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)        

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After paper and some other items kept coming loose, I used WOBBLE WEDGES - they 'lock' into place when you place them on top of each other - hasn't moved since. I think Home Depot and Lowes carry them.


Post# 546138 , Reply# 28   9/27/2011 at 16:28 (4,444 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        

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I used a rubber bungee cord hooking one side over the level and the other under the base of the machine. If the machine ever tripped off balance, just lift up on the hook and it resets. No worry about loosing shims and spatulas behind the machine.


Post# 546145 , Reply# 29   9/27/2011 at 16:35 (4,444 days old) by drnls ()        

Thanks for all the info. Is there link or guide to adjusting the screw for the water level? Thanks, Nelson

Post# 546178 , Reply# 30   9/27/2011 at 18:09 (4,444 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)        

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Nelson, search for post "413378" for a picture of the adjustment screw. Some report only turning the screw a small amount - I had to turn my 4-6 complete turns (use a socket for ease of turing) and be CAREFUL...could easily twist it. Of course, unplug the washer and only attempt if you feel 100% comfortable in doing so, etc., etc.

Post# 546331 , Reply# 31   9/28/2011 at 12:22 (4,444 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        

I also have the AWN542, and I love it, I also bought the same machine and matching dryer for my mother. Best of luck,

Post# 546423 , Reply# 32   9/29/2011 at 05:34 (4,443 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Nelson, why does your washer smell bad??? do you not leave the door ajar after use? That is a most common issue with front loading washer owners/users. They have this habit of closing the washer door and leaving it closed until the next use which could be days later. If somebody unplugged their refrigerator for a few days,would they leave the door closed, of course not because they know it would get smelly inside if they did.Front loaders do the same thing. They have an air tight seal and need to be left ajar at least a few hours to allow the humidity to escape and the wet drum to dry out.I've had countless ones over the years and,after I got them,cleaned them out and used them regularly,they always smelled fresh as a daisy.Speed Queen makes some fabulous front loaders and has a strong 3 year warranty on them. Their inner as well as outer tubs are stainless steel.

Post# 546435 , Reply# 33   9/29/2011 at 08:28 (4,443 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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congratulation on getting your top load washer and i also think that you won't regret chosing a model with extra options lol

Post# 546671 , Reply# 34   9/30/2011 at 17:02 (4,441 days old) by djmjlcst (Bloomington, Illinois)        
Wise Choice!

Hi Nelson, I own a SQ AWS76NW that was purchased in April 2007 and haven't had any issues with it whatsoever. This model run was before the government (or whoever) stepped in to make new models more energy efficient and use less water. I didn't have to turn the adjustment screw to get the maximum amount of water for a extra large load. Totally happy with the machine!

Mike L.

Post# 546672 , Reply# 35   9/30/2011 at 17:08 (4,441 days old) by djmjlcst (Bloomington, Illinois)        
Forgot something.....

Forgot to tell you that my model is the equivalent to the 542, same features, but with different style dials and control panel. - Mike L.

Post# 546739 , Reply# 36   10/1/2011 at 08:10 (4,441 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
New Arrival?

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Did your machine get delivered yesterday?

First Impressions??


Post# 546985 , Reply# 37   10/2/2011 at 21:29 (4,439 days old) by drnls ()        

Malcolm - machine is apparently not in as I did not receive a call. Unfortunately, I am the delivery guy since the place is over an hour away. I'll probably pick it up on Wed. granted it arrives by then. Nelson

Post# 546986 , Reply# 38   10/2/2011 at 21:37 (4,439 days old) by drnls ()        

Hadn't thought of this before but what detergent should we use? Currently using liquid detergent All 0xy He something. Suggestions and washing directions greatly appreciated.

Post# 547172 , Reply# 39   10/3/2011 at 13:31 (4,439 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        

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Sorry to hear that your machine did not come in on time.

I think any detergent you prefer will work in this standard machine. No special detergent requirements for a T/L non-HE machine.


Post# 547291 , Reply# 40   10/3/2011 at 18:51 (4,438 days old) by cehalstead (Charleston, WV)        
washing directions

Unless you have made the water level adjustment to raise it to a pre-waternazi level, think of it as a large capacity machine, not extra large. Don't overload and you'll do fine. It's a great machine.

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