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Post# 547001 , Reply# 1   10/3/2011 at 00:42 (4,561 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)   |   | |
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to put it on its back. I seem to recall that it is a bit of a complicated procedure to replace/add transmission oil. Anybody else???? ( I must have astral projected that too you , eh?) |
Post# 547010 , Reply# 2   10/3/2011 at 02:11 (4,561 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Post# 547018 , Reply# 4   10/3/2011 at 05:31 (4,561 days old) by kenmore58 (Rhode Island)   |   | |
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Dick,
I transported mine on its back. It didn't damage the machine, but I did experience a small amount of oil leakage, very minor. It spent about two hours on its back, about an hour from where I bought it to Rich (Perk-o-Prince's) house. We played around with it for a while, then it went back in my truck for another hour ride home to Rhode Island. Hope this helps. Ron |
Post# 547043 , Reply# 5   10/3/2011 at 10:17 (4,560 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Heard that you can't lay 'em down for too long because of fluids running out, but it's good to learn from Ron that he did it safely.
I have only had mine on their backs for a little while.
You have a real beauty there, a late 60's model with the wider, deeper indexed rim--really classy styling when seen up close-- and the red filter with matching red controls, one of the gems of the Easy line and not often seen, It also came in t two-speed model, but I can't see if the speed switch is there.
You will have a lot of fun washing with all the drama these babies provide: the sounds of the spin clutch and the pump, agitated fills, the rush of the suds-return. And the jet cone spray rinse is amazing; you can watch with the lid off. |
Post# 547047 , Reply# 6   10/3/2011 at 10:42 (4,560 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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Mine was in my hatchback, almost 90 degrees over on its side, for a 2 hour ride. Some spillage of oil, yes, but running fine here a year later.
Send us pics when you get it, they are fun, EASY to use, do a great job, but don't overload the spincan. It does best for spin/rinse whn 1/2 to 3/4 full, and once during rinse turn off water until it's dry(ish) and pull out clothes to re-arrange, rinse spray again. The re-arranging halfway thru seems to do the trick, I get great results. Once you get it home and practice a bit, give us some pictures and ask questions about use. Happy to throw you some pointers, but it's EASY-er to explain once it's home and running. |
Post# 547055 , Reply# 7   10/3/2011 at 11:37 (4,560 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Here's something I had not heard about from anyone, having seen Easy Spins in use since childhood. I read it in the first Easy manual that came my way a while back.
From pages 8&9 of the manual Model 5DE. There is no date any where to be found, but from the pic on the front, it's mid-to late 50's.
It says that after you load the spinner, push down rinse drain control, Excess sudsy water will be returned to the tub. Swing the fill faucet to rinse and run HOT water into the cone as it drains into the washtub. When the water level in the washtub has returned to the fill line, swing the drain faucet from suds to drain, Engage spin, and turn on the HOT water to flush through entire load. After 30 seconds turn on COLD and rinse for 2&1/2 minutes or until water runs clear. Water may be adjusted to give warm water rinses.
No one I knew ever rinsed this way, and I haven't tried it. Mark, are you using high water pressure for your rinses? I haven't tried rearranging, but change the temps and pressure throughout the rinse, and the clothes come out fresh and totally rinsed, after 5 minutes or so, less if Tide HE Powder is used.
Would appreciate hearing how you all rinse and if anyone follows the manual's method. There is also an "Alternate Power-flush Rinse" described. This post was last edited 10/03/2011 at 12:02 |
Post# 547334 , Reply# 9   10/3/2011 at 23:00 (4,560 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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The couple years I owned a twintub (Panasonic) I prerinsed in the spinner then piled everything up to agitate-rinse after all the washing was done. I don't remember what grandma did with her Easy, even though I was "helping" her. That was 60 years ago and I can't remember what I had for dinner Friday.
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Post# 547433 , Reply# 11   10/4/2011 at 13:47 (4,559 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Post# 547444 , Reply# 12   10/4/2011 at 14:27 (4,559 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 547497 , Reply# 13   10/4/2011 at 19:24 (4,559 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Thus when rinsing via spray it is important that the force of the water not be so great in relation to the rpm of the spinning load as to merely throw off much of water. What you want is the water to penetrate and therefore saturate the laundry. Then the force of the spinning will carry the muck/detergent laden water out of the wash.
Directions for loading any extractor regardless if it rinses or no are pretty much standard. Heavy items go on the bottom so as to provide a firm "base" and keep the tub centered and stable. However with an extractor one is using just to remove water the load is packed down firmly. Obviously if you are going to rinse as well as spin dry then you have to pack things a bit more loose to allow eaiser penetration of water. Personally have found with the Hoover TT for all but small mixed loads spin rinsing to be more bother than it's worth. Far better to extract the wash water and transfer the load to a tub of water (the machine's wash tub, sink, bathtub, etc....) for deep rinsing and then back into the extractor for a final spin dry. Unimac makes a stand alone twin tub washer similar to the old Easy models. It comes with either one or two wash tubs and the extractor has the same "cone" spray rinsing system. IIRC the units do not require bolting down but do run on 220v power. These Umimacs were originally sold for car wash and similar sorts of establishments but am told are quite popular with hotels, motels, restaurants and other places that need to turn around large amounts of small laundry (towels, wash cloths, napkins, shirts, tablecloths, etc) quickly. There also is the added cost savings of being able to reuse wash and or rinse water. With the double tub model one could wash in one tub, rinse in the other then spin dry in the extractor. Someone with a good system down could plow through mountains of wash quite fast. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK |
Post# 547512 , Reply# 14   10/4/2011 at 20:39 (4,559 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)   |   | |
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HI Dick, Wow, just like brand new. I have a few ideas that I would like to tell you about that deal with the red plastic levers that more the various functions. If you have any questions, I would be more than happy to answer them. Happy washing. Gary |
Post# 547550 , Reply# 15   10/5/2011 at 01:45 (4,559 days old) by MikeKLondon (London)   |   | |
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I wish we had them in the UK, what's the spin speed? Do they have build in heaters? The nearest we have was an AEG Luvalux in the 1960/70s |
Post# 547554 , Reply# 16   10/5/2011 at 02:35 (4,559 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)   |   | |
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Chatsworth ; er, I mean Hacienda Heights, Easy Spin Washer! A beautiful chromed agitator bolt , and such a cheerful lint filter.
Are those burpilators , or does the "long" spout waterfall into the lint filter? I am red with envy!!!!!
xo , Smithers |
Post# 548015 , Reply# 18   10/7/2011 at 18:19 (4,556 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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We had a debate here years back about the very existence of the filters. After the debate, I got a red one from Walt. Yes, old friend Darrel Frontal Smithers, you swing the long spout all the way inward to reach the filter.
I have no trouble with Spirilator splashing, but if you rinse at high pressure with the lid off, you get some spraying and misting from the spinner. My "good" Easy is used in the kitchen all the time.
The spin speed is 900 rpms. Somewhere, I have the number of spray holes in the spin can. Many hundreds which is why it works so well. Remember, this is "Precision Engineering," And if you rinse till the water runs clear, there will be no soapy water left in the clothes. The Hoover does not have a spray cone, and the clothes morph into a solid cylinder of fabric; in the Easy the clothes are distributed around the cone, so there is not as dense a a mass of fabric for the needle spray streams to penetrate. the Easy spinner is both wider and deeper than the Hoove. It is really not necessary to tub rinse a spinner rinsed load in an Easy.
Gary, you may have the model made after Easy was first bought out. Is your pump under the agitator gear, rather than in the front center of the machine. That model does not spin at 900, and does not rinse as well.
If anybody wants to experience the idea of what rinsing look like in an Easy, which is very difficult to catch on camera, see Robert's spray rinse in his Super Unimatic Video. The high speed spin and the force of water is what does the job.
But don't listen to me. I'm very biased, judging vintage Easy Spins as one of the most exciting, competent, and original washers ever made. |
Post# 548036 , Reply# 19   10/7/2011 at 21:09 (4,556 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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Post# 548048 , Reply# 21   10/7/2011 at 23:45 (4,556 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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It's a remarkable discovery, Dick. Completely operational and spotless. Envy of all Easy lovers (though I liked the long-throw clutch levers better than the console/quadrant ones). I would trade my hole-in-the-closet frontloader for a functional twintub any day.
Mickey, I don't remember grandma's ~1950 having the hollow spincone, but I think it did have a hub. Was hollow a later development? |
Post# 548083 , Reply# 22   10/8/2011 at 07:07 (4,556 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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The wash drain will not reach the lint filter at all. The long spout is meant to return suds to tub during first extraction, then swing it over your drain tub for rinse waetr once you start rinsing in the can. The lint filter was only an added attraction years later in the design of this machine, simply to compete with automatics in a small way, never designed for the waterspout. The filter, like ones on my speed Queen winger washer, only works at one stupid exact level of water sloshing over into it during agitation, it's just this side of useless. You'll notice it's in almost no Easy advertisements, it was just a 50 cent dumb marketing idea, really doesn't work.
Your wash drain tiny dripping is really just the difficulty of closing a plastic flap inside the pump, possibly a bit of corrosion of the cheap pot metal. I have learned to just leave the spout over the wash tub while during agitation, since it's impossible to entirely shut off the port. It's a flaw in the design, it is not at all meant to filter the water through that filter. The pump runs at all times, those red levers are simply opening and closing ports. Truthfully, it sounds to me that your Easy is working quite well, you're just learing a few little peculiarities it shares with all Easy spindriers.
And yes, load the spinner VERY EQUALLY, there is really no suspension/shock absorber system at all. I am not picking on these machines, just explaining. I think they are well made, do a great job, and are lots of fun. But a 57 Chevy, for all its charm, just ain't the same machine as a 2010 Lincoln. The Easy is a unique piece of washer machinery. |
Post# 548098 , Reply# 23   10/8/2011 at 10:07 (4,555 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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The washtub should not be dribbling water, and the port valves in my machine are thick rubber not plastic. Easy Spins were made into the late 60's. Not positive, but pretty sure. Many models are solid tanks with powerful pumps, and the rinsing is meant to be conducted with at least a normal steady stream of water entering the spinner.
Beyond the "SUDS" position marked on the chrome plate of the faucet mount, the is another position where you pull the faucet all the way in over the filter. Mine works fine, and I so wish I could make a movie right now. Do you really think they'd make a filter that absolutely did not work? Even better, do you think I'd be standing here talking about using a filter that doesn't work? Jesus H., Gimme a break! The debate we had here years ago was about the fact that the filter made for the Easy Spin will not work in an Easy automatic. I was wrong about, mistakenly assuming that it would since the large black Spiralators were used in both machines, but the filter obviously works in the machine is was made for, the Easy Spin.
Again, I've been using these unique machines since childhood and have had so much practice that I don't appreciate how challenging they may be for a new user. Also lucky to have a late model, mint machine with perfectly working parts. Time will tell. And I have many machines with issues, including an Easy with a broken pump, now by-passed with graving draining, so it isn't all a bed of roses for me either.
Arilab, the ceramic hub was used in the less expensive models, still available as an optional the end of production. |
Post# 548109 , Reply# 26   10/8/2011 at 11:03 (4,555 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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The other day when I mentioned the 900 rpm spin and couldn't remember the number of the jets in the spray come, I was going to guess 1300. This morning when posting I didn't see Mark's pix. Delighted to know that there are 1560 jets. No wonder why the rinse works.
Dick, get some really hot sudsy water in both tubs and with both drains open gently move the levers up and down to get them loose. If they're really bad mix in a quart of vinegar. Imagine you could use a little oil around the faucets, and I hope you get to use your filter; they're a lot of fun and the sudsy water "sheets" out. I' ve got mine going now.
The new pix are stunning. |
Post# 548128 , Reply# 27   10/8/2011 at 13:13 (4,555 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 548370 , Reply# 29   10/9/2011 at 21:27 (4,554 days old) by bradross (New Westminster, BC., Canada)   |   | |
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Those are some fantastic pics of your new (old) machine, Dick!
Interesting though, that with the Easy, one cannot put the entire wash tub load in the spinner. With my Speed Queen or Hoover twin tubs, the spinner will accommodate the entire wash load at one time. Even though I do use the spray rinse function with the SQ, I also do a deep rinse at the end of the wash loads (because I like to use liquid fabric softener.) |
Post# 548456 , Reply# 31   10/10/2011 at 09:30 (4,553 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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And you can put the whole load into the spinner. Rinse for 3-5 minutes, until the outgoing water is clear. Or use the method suggested by the manual which I excerpted up in reply #7.
Try a little 3 in 1 oil around the base of the drain facet base. These faucets are made to swing inward with or without a filter.
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Post# 548457 , Reply# 32   10/10/2011 at 09:34 (4,553 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 548842 , Reply# 33   10/12/2011 at 06:20 (4,552 days old) by westyslantfront ()   |   | |
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Hi Dick. Looks like a beautiful machine and with a link filter too. Someday when I visit Palm Springs, I would love to see it. Ross |
Post# 551853 , Reply# 35   10/25/2011 at 15:35 (4,538 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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You really can't go wrong if you rinse till the draining water runs clear. Depending on the temp you're using and the soap and the load, etc, the rinse time can vary. But your ninety second rinse that was too short got me thinking about how long a low-sudsing HE detergent would take to rinse clear. I'm going to try it soon.
Check out Kevin's thread about bringing an old girl back, etc., Thread # 37052. It's about a new member's Easy, a model made before the faucets were developed into which the water somehow enters the spinner from the bottom, then shoots up. A rare model; in fact, no one has one except Pete.
PS: Did you try a little 3 in 1 or spray a little WD 40 around the neck where the faucet goes below the chrome plate? |
Post# 551855 , Reply# 36   10/25/2011 at 16:09 (4,538 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Hey Dick
I have found if I washing towels etc in my Servis twin tub when all the washing and rinsing is finished I refill the wash tub with hot tap water and rinse them again in that for a few minutes then just spin really well have noticed that a lot of suds come out in warm water and towels are a lot softer as I don't use fabric softener.:) Maybe it will help who knows but worth a shot ! Austin Ps hows the house coming along? |