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Thread Number: 36930
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Post# 549270 10/14/2011 at 09:10 (4,570 days old) by Jetcone  (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Post# 549282 , Reply# 1 10/14/2011 at 10:19 (4,570 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Post# 549284 , Reply# 2 10/14/2011 at 10:31 (4,570 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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NICE NEW BOILER | ||
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Post# 549285 , Reply# 3 10/14/2011 at 10:33 (4,570 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Nice new boiler | ||
| Post# 549286 , Reply# 4 10/14/2011 at 10:34 (4,570 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Looks just like my Mom's, a couple years old and she lov | ||
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Post# 549287 , Reply# 5 10/14/2011 at 10:36 (4,570 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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I hope this is the only way you will ever find yourself in hot water. Enjoy it in good health always! Tom | ||
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Post# 549290 , Reply# 6 10/14/2011 at 10:42 (4,570 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 549292 , Reply# 7 10/14/2011 at 10:53 (4,570 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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New Boiler! | ||
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Post# 549320 , Reply# 8 10/14/2011 at 12:23 (4,570 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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Post# 549331 , Reply# 9 10/14/2011 at 12:51 (4,570 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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No John | ||
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Post# 549333 , Reply# 10 10/14/2011 at 13:06 (4,570 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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Post# 549337 , Reply# 11 10/14/2011 at 13:41 (4,570 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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CONGRATS! | ||
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Post# 549352 , Reply# 12 10/14/2011 at 14:56 (4,570 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.) |
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Maybe the wrong forum... | ||
| Post# 549358 , Reply# 13 10/14/2011 at 15:25 (4,570 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
Size Matters ? | ||
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Post# 549360 , Reply# 14 10/14/2011 at 15:37 (4,570 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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I have a TeleDyne Laars installed in my house....its very small...about 20x20x20 square......and does a super efficient job, my gas bill is never above 100.00 during the winter, and my heat is set on 76 degrees.....
check for available rebates from the gas company and your state....also a tax write off if available in your state I know they went up in price for some models......but I got a boiler heater, a water heater, taps installed for the stove, dryers and grill, all piping and labor, and Gas installed from the street for 2200.00....but then again this was 1993...... the Gas company financed me for 3% interest.....50.00 payment per month.... | ||
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Post# 549361 , Reply# 15 10/14/2011 at 15:52 (4,570 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Gas or oil? If gas, you will have room for another washer - or three Ironrites stacked, where the oil tank was!
Put a relay in the spin circuit of that newly rebuilt timer to keep the deadly electrical draw out of that timer. My control tower needs the same exact thing and I have a nice relay all ready to go... Nice primer-coat on the 57 set, what color will you paint them? Please, no more Caribbean Blue! (I know...SLAP!) | ||
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Post# 549377 , Reply# 16 10/14/2011 at 18:09 (4,570 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Oo Gansky you could be really slappped | ||
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Post# 549378 , Reply# 17 10/14/2011 at 18:10 (4,570 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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You got that right | ||
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Post# 549379 , Reply# 18 10/14/2011 at 18:13 (4,570 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 549381 , Reply# 19 10/14/2011 at 18:40 (4,570 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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HOLD THE FREEKIN PHONE!!! And just where in the double hocky sticks did that charcoal grey 57 set come from? I do NOT ever remember seeing those in any preivous pictures of any of the wings of your laundry studio. those got snuck in under the radar screen I do believe. HUMPH!!! Venture just a select few knew those landed in your basement!! The acquisitoin of the 21st century!! I do not think thsoe were professionally repainted at an autobody shop like Rick has done to some of his beautiful machines. Me thinks this was simply a ploy to discretely announce to the world these machines reside in your basement all in the disguise of a new boiler, which dooesn't even closely resemble a vintage washer. | ||
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Post# 549398 , Reply# 20 10/14/2011 at 20:09 (4,570 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Okay make my day | ||
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Post# 549402 , Reply# 21 10/14/2011 at 20:41 (4,570 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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One other consideration I have on ever changing out my big old boiler for a newer compact one is that this old one acts like a gigantic heat sink and keeps the basement very toasty warm all winter long. I don't think it wastes heat as it is all convected up the stairs to the rest of the house as well. And checking with neighbors etc who have newer boilers and mid-hi efficiency gas furnaces our gas bill is good, sometimes even less ( I keep the house at a minimum of 72 all winter, don't like it cold)
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| Post# 549404 , Reply# 22 10/14/2011 at 20:47 (4,570 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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Oh Jon, just think of all the fun you will have filling up the space that oil tank took up!!! You are going to be nice and toasty all winter long! | ||
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Post# 549405 , Reply# 23 10/14/2011 at 20:57 (4,570 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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thank you Terry | ||
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Post# 549423 , Reply# 24 10/14/2011 at 23:00 (4,569 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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AWESOME GAS BOILER MISTER!
I re-tweaked mine when the installer left. The pressure should not exceed 5 psi ever. 3 psi is more than adequate to get steam to the 2nd floor. Test yours to see that steam gets to the further /highest radiator at the lowest possible set pressure. I also played with the differential (adjustment of a knob within the "pressure-trol" which is the box mounted on a "pigtail"of looped pipe) to reduce the amount of on-off cycles. The control cuts out the boiler at the setting shown in front, (say 3 psi or leas) and will kick it back in based on a differential). I had mine set for 2 lbs., IIRC, so the boiler would again start at 1 psi to build to 3 psi if the thermostat was not yet satisfied. You may also want to adjust your heat-anticipator in the thermostat. These are designed to let the boiler run long enough to build up a head of steam but shut off-prematurely (purposely) such that the remaining steam and retained heat in the cast-iron pipes and radiators brings the room to the set temp, and won't over-shoot that temperature. BTW the steam header and rising should NOT be copper piping within I think at least 6 feet (2 +/- meters/yards) of the boiler itself. It should be threaded cast-tron pipe. The expanding and contracting of the pipe will rip the soldered joint out eventually. MUCH LUCK WITH IT. When I replaced my 1946 oil-fired steam boiler (that also generated hot water for the taps by way of a tankless coil) with a new one, my fuel-oil usage wet down by HALF! Install took ONE day and it cost me $4,500 for a Weil-Mclain unit with an Italian-made RIELO burner head. Said to use high pressure to atomize the fuel-oil more finely and burn more cleanly. (less soot and less carbon build-up). Dying to find that commercial advert on YouTube that says "I've got gas"; super funny double-meaning word-play TOOT-ing (HA HA HA HA ) the benefits of gas heat. | ||
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Post# 549424 , Reply# 25 10/14/2011 at 23:03 (4,569 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon) |
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Amazing isn't it... | ||
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Post# 549425 , Reply# 26 10/14/2011 at 23:04 (4,569 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 549426 , Reply# 27 10/14/2011 at 23:06 (4,569 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 549435 , Reply# 28 10/15/2011 at 00:37 (4,569 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Steve
The box above the boiler is a heat fuse, if there is ever a runaway boiler it will melt and shut off all power to the boiler.
You know your steam, did you read "The Art of Steam Heating"? Don't forget the Hartford Loop there! And copper pipe is the reason the old boiler was getting replaced 20 years early, a very bad install in the 70's caused it to run dry too many times. Nothing but iron pipe in my whole house now, the only copper allowed near the boiler is for the feed and the power!
I expect to save a lot on energy this year, I am putting in two zones so the tenant can set their own heat finally! I had to crank my thermostat to 69-70 to get a long enough cycle to get heat to the upstairs apartment so I always ended up roasting down here. And I could never use my wood stove as the tenant would freeze. Now I have all my wood stacked and ready and I can start a fire at 5 PM and it will toast up the house to 72 degrees and run till way past bedtime so I won't have to run my side of the boiler unless I am feeling lazy.
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Post# 549436 , Reply# 29 10/15/2011 at 00:40 (4,569 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Patrick | ||
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Post# 549437 , Reply# 30 10/15/2011 at 00:49 (4,569 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Patrick You are very observant! | ||
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Post# 549439 , Reply# 31 10/15/2011 at 00:53 (4,569 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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No Bob | ||
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Post# 549444 , Reply# 32 10/15/2011 at 01:52 (4,569 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Lovely Boiler | ||
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Post# 549461 , Reply# 34 10/15/2011 at 07:05 (4,569 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Mike the boiler is Steam and is supposed to come in around 86-92% efficient. But the piping overhead will still get toasty hot so the basement will still be warm-warm and dry in the winter especially when the Filtrator Dryer kicks in. Greg wouldn't let me even turn it on this summer! The dryer that is.
alr: what is a stairstep buck stove? is that like a wood burning boiler or furnace for hot air?
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Post# 549478 , Reply# 35 10/15/2011 at 08:54 (4,569 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 549484 , Reply# 36 10/15/2011 at 09:03 (4,569 days old) by HooverWheelAway () | ||
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Don't worry, Robert. I'll protect you from JC's slaps. I know they're-a-gonna be coming!
Now that the cat's out of the bag, or the charcoal control towers are in your basement, or the boiler's been replaced... 
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Post# 549487 , Reply# 37 10/15/2011 at 09:15 (4,569 days old) by joelippard (Hickory) |
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Well | ||
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Post# 549488 , Reply# 38 10/15/2011 at 09:19 (4,569 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Robert!! | ||
| Post# 549489 , Reply# 39 10/15/2011 at 09:21 (4,569 days old) by HooverWheelAway () | ||
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I dare you to get on a plane and fly here this weekend!! Robert's mother is here visiting this weekend! You could finally meet Joyce!
((Now I'm gonna get slapped!)) 
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Post# 549490 , Reply# 40 10/15/2011 at 09:23 (4,569 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 549498 , Reply# 41 10/15/2011 at 09:40 (4,569 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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Oh Robert!! You were such a cute little cub scout!!!! | ||
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Post# 549508 , Reply# 42 10/15/2011 at 10:15 (4,569 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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He was wasn't he! | ||
| Post# 549513 , Reply# 43 10/15/2011 at 10:57 (4,569 days old) by mixfinder () | ||
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The Truth Revealed After all the hubbub at bidding time, I guess Laundress won't be the first to come and visit the Charcoal set. | ||
| Post# 549518 , Reply# 44 10/15/2011 at 11:03 (4,569 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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And yet, still at that age in deep competition with his Mom | ||
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Post# 549550 , Reply# 45 10/15/2011 at 14:38 (4,569 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 549606 , Reply# 46 10/15/2011 at 18:27 (4,569 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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Post# 549646 , Reply# 47 10/15/2011 at 20:10 (4,569 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada) |
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Post# 549653 , Reply# 48 10/15/2011 at 20:27 (4,569 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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they were very low use machines She probably did "undies on Sundays" with them which is part of the reason they are in such good shape. The other part was she smoked like a chimney, the entire house was coated in tar and nicotine which actually saved the chrome.
You can see the build up between the prongs of the crown, thats how covered the machines were.
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Post# 549655 , Reply# 49 10/15/2011 at 20:30 (4,569 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Gary | ||
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Post# 549656 , Reply# 50 10/15/2011 at 20:31 (4,569 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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First thing I did | ||
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Post# 549657 , Reply# 51 10/15/2011 at 20:36 (4,569 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Chrome shot | ||
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Post# 549659 , Reply# 52 10/15/2011 at 20:39 (4,569 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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You can see the | ||
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Post# 549660 , Reply# 53 10/15/2011 at 20:41 (4,569 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Even the spin bearing | ||
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Post# 549667 , Reply# 54 10/15/2011 at 21:20 (4,569 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon) |
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Charcoal in your xmas stocking?
So glad you got these Jon!
I was waiting for the day they would appear on these pages and it took longer than I thought but you were probably waiting to reveal once you got the rinse switch working again, right? LOL I think of all the Frigidaire's out there, this must be one of the most beautifully preserved sets anyone has seen in a long time. Can't wait to see interior shots. Again - Congratulations. Patrick | ||
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Post# 549673 , Reply# 55 10/15/2011 at 21:56 (4,569 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Oh Jon... very clever! | ||
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Post# 549690 , Reply# 56 10/16/2011 at 00:19 (4,568 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI) |
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Refresh my memory-- are these the ones from Detroit that someone posted about a few months back? They certainly are stunning looking, enjoy! | ||
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Post# 549691 , Reply# 57 10/16/2011 at 00:24 (4,568 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Two zones? With one steam boiler? Do tell! I have only seen it once in the local church where I was brainwashed--er, I mean spent a lot of time. There was a motorized vale for each zone that was controlled by a low-voltage thermostat.But it has been decades since I have seen the mechanicals.
In my Cape-Cod style house of 1.5 stories (storys => UK) I added a loop of hydronic (hot-water) baseboard heating to the basement. This is possible because the bottom of the boiler and the floor level of the heated space was the same. The upper story-and-a-half remained steam heat. The circulator (small pump) needs to pull water out of the bottom of the boiler, run it through the "radiators" (actually baseboard-style convectors) and return it about one foot (30cm) up. The circulator was designed for an "open-loop" system. Meaning it was designed to be used with oxygenated water. In a closed system (your typical hydronic heating systems) the oxygen is eventually depleted and bled out of the system. A one-pipe steam system is actually an open-to-air system that remains with oxygenated water. [a circulator/pump designed for an oxygen-free closed system, and used in oxygenated water, will deteriorate, rust and die prematurely). Normally, in a "closed" (i.e. airtight) hydronic system the returning water is pumped back into the boiler by the circulator. The hottest water is taken from the top and pumped apound the heating (radiator) loop(s). | ||
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Post# 549704 , Reply# 58 10/16/2011 at 02:40 (4,568 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 549765 , Reply# 59 10/16/2011 at 11:39 (4,568 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 549778 , Reply# 60 10/16/2011 at 12:20 (4,568 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada) |
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Jetcone,
No I don't have radiant floor heating (but wish I did!). I just had all the electric baseboard heaters replaced with hot water baseboard heaters. I have 5 zones in the house of which 3 are controlled by automatic thermostats (master bedroom, main bathroom, living/dining area) and 2 zones are controlled by regular thermostats (guest bedroom, lower level). Gary | ||
| Post# 549794 , Reply# 61 10/16/2011 at 13:39 (4,568 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Odd thought on a rainy Sunday afternoon It's too bad that tar and nicotine residue can't protect lung tissue the way it does chrome and porcelain which are absolutely dazzling on your charcoals; can't wait to see a close-up of the tower face unbandaged.
With these gold coals and your glass-fronted Easy, you are a gifted, unbeatable treasure hunter. More power to ya! This post was last edited 10/16/2011 at 19:34 | ||
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Post# 549993 , Reply# 62 10/17/2011 at 12:42 (4,567 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 550152 , Reply# 63 10/18/2011 at 07:10 (4,566 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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OKAY LOUIS! | ||
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Post# 550194 , Reply# 64 10/18/2011 at 12:06 (4,566 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Yeeehaaa! | ||
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Post# 550196 , Reply# 65 10/18/2011 at 12:21 (4,566 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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Post# 550267 , Reply# 66 10/18/2011 at 18:22 (4,566 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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That light | ||
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Post# 550310 , Reply# 67 10/18/2011 at 21:41 (4,566 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Shanghai to Melrose | ||
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Post# 550312 , Reply# 68 10/18/2011 at 21:43 (4,566 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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Post# 550367 , Reply# 70 10/19/2011 at 06:15 (4,565 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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there is a vernier dial on the strobe that you adjust manually to the point where motion stops then you can read the speed off the dial. An expensive strobe has a very very fine tuned vernier & oscillator circuit, it used to be the xenon tube and power supply was expensive but now they power car headlights, the controls are what drive the price now. | ||
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Post# 550403 , Reply# 72 10/19/2011 at 10:26 (4,565 days old) by jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA) |
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Strobe Light | ||
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Post# 550404 , Reply# 73 10/19/2011 at 10:29 (4,565 days old) by jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA) |
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Strobe Light | ||
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Post# 550405 , Reply# 74 10/19/2011 at 10:37 (4,565 days old) by jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA) |
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Laser Tachometer | ||
| Post# 550406 , Reply# 75 10/19/2011 at 10:43 (4,565 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Very nice vid--loved the credits Have noticed, over the years, that sometimes, in certain slants of light, and combinations of color, the Unimatic spins seem to slow down, freeze, and reverse direction.
'Course, it could be the shrooms
Jeff's strobe skill captures what I've never seen filmed before. Amazing and impressive. Thank you, Gentlemen.
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Post# 550440 , Reply# 76 10/19/2011 at 12:50 (4,565 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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| Post# 550449 , Reply# 77 10/19/2011 at 13:33 (4,565 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada) | ||
Without a strobe light, I got an almost static view of agitator of my W3-224 GMini washer while it was spinning when I filmed it with a fluorescent light. But I have no idea of the actual spin speed. Should be less than half of your Unimatic according to the factory specs!
See: CLICK HERE TO GO TO PhilR's LINK | ||
| Post# 550665 , Reply# 79 10/20/2011 at 07:52 (4,564 days old) by ingliscanada () | ||
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Sneaky Trick I think people will sneak unrelated topics in the "free" forums to avoid paying to be an upgraded member. | ||
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Post# 551000 , Reply# 80 10/21/2011 at 10:10 (4,563 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Post# 551032 , Reply# 81 10/21/2011 at 13:17 (4,563 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Firedome | ||
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Post# 551165 , Reply# 82 10/22/2011 at 00:48 (4,562 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon) |
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What??? | ||
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Post# 551295 , Reply# 83 10/22/2011 at 16:56 (4,562 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Another drift before the money shot | ||
| Post# 551306 , Reply# 84 10/22/2011 at 18:49 (4,562 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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| Post# 551309 , Reply# 85 10/22/2011 at 18:55 (4,562 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Pat & Louis, now wanting lobster for dinner, DARN, already | ||
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Post# 551317 , Reply# 86 10/22/2011 at 20:02 (4,562 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon) |
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Tub Shot? | ||
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Post# 551322 , Reply# 87 10/22/2011 at 20:58 (4,562 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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OMG now that is a tub shot! | ||
| Post# 551331 , Reply# 88 10/22/2011 at 22:07 (4,562 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Here's a down payment of 20 bucks in Donating Member' | ||
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Post# 551356 , Reply# 89 10/23/2011 at 04:01 (4,561 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 551383 , Reply# 90 10/23/2011 at 09:19 (4,561 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Excellent Mikeyd | ||
| Post# 551398 , Reply# 91 10/23/2011 at 12:18 (4,561 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Good | ||
| Post# 551423 , Reply# 92 10/23/2011 at 16:33 (4,561 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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Post# 552059 , Reply# 93 10/26/2011 at 15:29 (4,558 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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