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Post# 550130   10/18/2011 at 03:22 (4,571 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        

Hi all Is anyone here using a spin dryer? I am thinking about finding one as I have a lot of hand wash only that never seem to balance in the spin cycle on my Miele. I would like to find a Miele or AEG when did they last make them ?




Post# 550141 , Reply# 1   10/18/2011 at 04:54 (4,571 days old) by turnamat (Germany)        

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Hi Mike,in Germany,AEG still build Spin Dryers.But I think the cheapest way will be to get one used on eBay!Try to get one with 2800 U/min.That will give You safe,short spin time for delicate fabrics like handwash!

Post# 550143 , Reply# 2   10/18/2011 at 05:15 (4,571 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Spinners

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Hi Mike, the Mieles are usually pretty good at OOB but sometimes still cause "No Spins", always best to have three handwash items of equal size or to pack them with dry towels etc...

You still find on ebay older Creda, some with the pump & hose, most gravity drain...




Post# 550144 , Reply# 3   10/18/2011 at 05:18 (4,571 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Frigidaire

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A solid machine...

Post# 550195 , Reply# 4   10/18/2011 at 12:21 (4,570 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

And my 1965 creda debonair. old but good. 2800 rpm realy cuts the cost of drying.

Post# 550333 , Reply# 5   10/19/2011 at 01:57 (4,570 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
Creda

Hi I Love the old Creda. Are spin dryers still popular in Germany ? They seem to not be used anymore in the UK. Given the current cost of our electric it seems like it would cut a lot from the drying time. As a kid we had one and I seem to remember that a lot of the washing was ironed str8 from the spin dryer. As we use a Phaff roller iron for a lot of the ironing and it needs to be damper than hand ironing it may mean that wont need to dry somethings. I would love to know how many of us here still iron bed linen most of the people I know think we are a little bit mad but then one of my best M8's hasn't even vacuumed for 5 years let alone ironed a shirt or a pair of jeans. He gave me a fridge magnet once saying " A clean and tidy home is a sign of a wasted life" As I'm just about to go and polish the kitchen floor he may have a point. Maybe I'll think about it when I have finished cleaning the house, car, garden and gym this morning before I start work. May be I'd even have time to use the gym if I stop cleaning it. But then I've just seen the pond needs cleaning.

Post# 550334 , Reply# 6   10/19/2011 at 02:08 (4,570 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Spin Driers Began To Die Off

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As front loaders increased final spins from merely 900rpms to 1100rpms, to 1200rpms and in some newer machines up to 1600rpms more or less.

Also all over the EU and UK there were alarming reports of children and adults loosing limbs or other body parts from reaching into extractors whilst running. Indeed one hears the rumor often enough that was one of the reasons Hoover decided to pull the plug on their twin tubs for the UK/EU market.

Know the UK put in place laws requiring all newer spin driers to have locking lid and break systems; maybe the same is true in the EU or elsewhere as well. The old Hoover TT design where one could partially lift the spin can lid or otherwise defeat the lid switch is a big "no-no" today. Also coasting to a stop as well.

Our "Spin-X" has both a brake and lid lock. Once the lid is unlocked the break stops the tub from spinning at once. Makes a darn bit of racket but there you are.

Love using my spin dryer after washing a few things out by hand or after using the Miele to do the washing and rinsing (using one of the cycles where there aren't any spins in between cycles), then draining off the final rinse water. I do this when doing a load of similar sized items like lots of napkins. Darn machine really cannot distribute them evenly and the most always spins slighly out of balance. Far easier to bung the lot into the extractor and be done.

Cannot speak for all of the EU but at least in Germany many still use spin driers/extractors. Of course there are also many also using washing machines with final spins <1200rpms or even only 900rpms, so there you are.



Post# 550341 , Reply# 7   10/19/2011 at 02:39 (4,570 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
Spins Speeds

Hi ,Laundress My Miele spins at 1600 but that still means using a dryer a lot. + Its hates the dog beds unless you wash 2/3 at the same time and as they are sheep skin they are heavy when wet. I have seen the Spin X and it looks good but cant't find one in the UK. I need to find either reto look or s/ steel so that it can just stay out and not live in a cupboard and not get used.

Post# 550342 , Reply# 8   10/19/2011 at 02:43 (4,570 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
Danger of Spin dryers

I should of said as a kid I had a very very very wicked step mother, one high spot of my life was her putting her hand in a top loader while it was still spinning

Post# 550345 , Reply# 9   10/19/2011 at 02:50 (4,570 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Mike...

I can't remember when they stopped making the AEG / Miele, I would say mid-90's..I find a spin dryer a great help. I have a 1969 Hotpoint Top loader as my daily washer, and although it spins great, towelling sometimes just needs that extra spin, plus i use the spinner every evening to dryer my trunks from the gym :)

Hope you find one soon !!
Keith


Post# 550348 , Reply# 10   10/19/2011 at 03:25 (4,570 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
What make is this

HI Keith
What make is the one in the pic????????

Wish I had a Top loader is it expensive to run? I did look at a US washer only last week BUT hot fill 15 galls per load + the maching dryer said it di not have a heather so I,m not shaw how it dry's ? Cosco are now selling US machines. + I was told you need to use 5/6 cups of powder per load as UK soaps are not make for Top loading machines.


Post# 550349 , Reply# 11   10/19/2011 at 03:27 (4,570 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
Spelling

It should read DID and Heater and not Di and Heather

Post# 550352 , Reply# 12   10/19/2011 at 03:30 (4,570 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
Keith's Collection

Hi Keith

I have just seen your collection in your profile WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.


Post# 550354 , Reply# 13   10/19/2011 at 03:45 (4,570 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Final Spin Speeds And Remaining Moisture

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Extraction is a result if drum diameter and speed, that is a larger drum can spin at lower rpms and remove the same amount of water as a smaller one going faster.

Final moisture content for most loads will decrease going from 900rpms to 1100rpms, and again up to around 1200rpms but after about 1400rpms or so you start reaching the laws of diminishing returns. Also higher spin speeds can be murder on a washer. This probably explains why so many older washers with "puny" 800rpms or 900rpms final spins are still knocking about.

There is only so much water that can be wrung out of fabrics regardless of how fast they are extracted. Once you reach that level faster and or longer spinning really does not do much good and can also lead to textile damage. One has stretched T-shirts and other items beyond shape leaving them going in the spin dryer trying to make them dry as possible to save time (and energy) in the tumble dryer.

Ironing sheets:

One irons all domestic table and bed linen for the household. My current "collection" contains:

Pfaff 856 Steam Ironer
Vintage Frigidaire Ironer
Vintage Ironrite 890 "portable" Ironer

Oh and have two "Kaltmangels" (cold irons) from Germany. One is electric one is hand cranked.



Post# 550355 , Reply# 14   10/19/2011 at 03:47 (4,570 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Spinners

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"""Also all over the EU and UK there were alarming reports of children and adults loosing limbs or other body parts from reaching into extractors whilst running. Indeed one hears the rumor often enough that was one of the reasons Hoover decided to pull the plug on their twin tubs for the UK/EU market."""

Thats just what the above is - rumours, have never heard that Hoover stopped production because of liabilities, it was purely economies of scale...

Alarming reports are just that - I only ever knew of one person getting his arm stuck in a wringer as a kid, the other was when I joined this club and heard from Rich (golittlesport), given the amount of machines sold and accidents I would say you are more likely to have a car accident and lose a limb...

The EU directive in 1972 was implemeted to have spinner brakes on said machines and not to be able to see a spinning drum, really good given the way people absolve their selves of any responsibilty these days when using said machinery, like said in another thread liquidisers and waste disposers pose more of a threat!!!


Post# 550356 , Reply# 15   10/19/2011 at 04:01 (4,570 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Spinners

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Mike, seems like you need to give keith a call and meet up, you must be just around the corner, I think the above spinner is a Goblin from the 60`s...

For a modern machine why not contact a laundry distributor, they could supply a modern miele like those supplied for changing rooms etc..

With a good spinner 2,800 - 3,100 you can remove water even from a large diameter FL spinning at 1600 or 1800rpm, makes sense when using a tumble dryer given our UK climate!!


Post# 550361 , Reply# 16   10/19/2011 at 05:43 (4,570 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
Waste Disposer

I do agree with Chester- Mike above the H&S police have put a stop to being able to buy anything with a plug on from the junk shops and markets in the now days. I see from this site this is not the case YET in the US

Post# 550363 , Reply# 17   10/19/2011 at 05:53 (4,570 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
Thor

Hi Keith

If you get time one day could you post a pic or 2 of your 1959 Thor Mk3 (with Pedals as controls) I think we have spoken before, this is one of the machines I grow up with + I also see you have listed an ADA I remember an aunt had one I have never seen one on here before. It looks like we are not far apart I'm in West Wickham.


Post# 550391 , Reply# 18   10/19/2011 at 07:58 (4,570 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Epsom

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Mike

What about this one?

Al


CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacbear58's LINK on eBay


Post# 550392 , Reply# 19   10/19/2011 at 07:59 (4,570 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Not so handy

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Post# 550393 , Reply# 20   10/19/2011 at 08:01 (4,570 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Used,

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Post# 550395 , Reply# 21   10/19/2011 at 08:25 (4,570 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Mike,

The spinner that I posted was a Goblin and dates from the late 50's to early 60's, I recently picked it up, gave it a good clean up and is as good as new, prior to this I was using a Creda Debonaire mid 60's model. I find a spinner such a valuable laundry aid.

My top loader is a bit of an oldie, a Hotpoint 1504..it is great, and i have had it now for 8 years, it does a 50c wash in about 40mins, yes, it does use quite a bit of water (3 complete tub full's) but the cost of water over electricity, i still think it is quite cheap to run.

Regarding the Thor Mk3, it is a fab machine and is the machine i use to see when i went on holiday, I have had 3 and all of them and the clutch has burnt out on all, serious design fault !! I will dig out some pic's when i get home.

Regards
Keith


Post# 550398 , Reply# 22   10/19/2011 at 09:18 (4,569 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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I have the Koh-I-Noor spin dryer from Argentina. 2800rpm. Even in the tropical summer Australian climate I find it drags out that little bit more water to help things dry on the line so quickly without over drying in the hot sun. I can even use my undercover airer to dry most things easily with a warm breeze running through them.

It was a godsend in winter when it was cold and had to use the dryer a lot, most loads dried in 30 mins even towels if left in the spinner for 5 mins or more.

Its easy to use, with a brake so you can't open the lid until the cylinder stops.

I made a video when I first got it and will re-post it below. I now have an Electrolux Time Manager 1400spin washer but rarely use the full 1400, usually its down at 900rpm. I wouldn't have bought a 1400 spin if it was an awesome deal they were doing because it was a model run out. In australia I find 1000rpm to be more than sufficient in summer.

Enjoy

Matt



Post# 550400 , Reply# 23   10/19/2011 at 09:29 (4,569 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Miele Spin Dryer

Hi Mike.

I have a Miele spin dryer and use it all the time. The model numbers they made are, WZ 268, WZ 258, & WZ 5929. Models WZ 259 & WZ 5929 spun at 1475rpm, and model WZ 268 spun at 2800rpm.

I have model WZ 268 and love it. Very quiet in operation, and dries very well.

Paul


Post# 550401 , Reply# 24   10/19/2011 at 09:30 (4,569 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Top View

Top View

Post# 550407 , Reply# 25   10/19/2011 at 10:49 (4,569 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
Koh-I-Noor

HI any-one know if the Koh-I Noor or spin X are sold in the `UK?

Thanks Keith The ones you posted look good but a really want a S/steel or a Miele I have seen one Miele with a chrome top i liked but its not for sale. I have to get one in the house with out my partner noticing it, It usually takes a about a week with a vacuum before he sees it but he may just see a spin dryer in the corner. One thing I do know is he'll never use it he's still trying to turn on a vacuum.


Post# 550408 , Reply# 26   10/19/2011 at 11:00 (4,569 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Here is my Miele, next to my Miele Automatic 400. Mine is a WZ 257, it spins too at 2800rpm

Post# 550425 , Reply# 27   10/19/2011 at 11:44 (4,569 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Beautiful stuff, Mates

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Mike, I'd love to see a pic of your home gym. So funny that you don't use it since you get all your exercise cleaning. Immaculate kitchen.


Post# 550590 , Reply# 28   10/19/2011 at 23:18 (4,569 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
Gym

HI I'll try and take a few snaps of the gym when I can for you

Post# 550594 , Reply# 29   10/19/2011 at 23:36 (4,569 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

We have a spin dryer but don't use it as often as we used to.

It's noisier than anything (if you make sure it's well balanced it's quieter, but that's an art form in itself). But it is good at extracting water from clothes & towels after they have been washed in our American top loader.

I found that is it great for extracting detergent residue from clothes too. You can rinse your clothes in crystal clear water and then when you spin them you'll get a ton of suds in the spinner drain bucket.

We used to use it a lot when line drying. On a nice sunny breezy day clothes hung outside would dry in just minutes.

Most Americans have never heard of or seen a laundry spinner. Now and then you'll find somebody very old that will remember them from coin laundries years ago. I think in Germany these things are called Waschaluder, aren't they? When I was in Germany I heard someone call it that. So that's what we call it.



Post# 550598 , Reply# 30   10/19/2011 at 23:43 (4,569 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
Kaltmangels"

My Dear Laundress
When you have time I would be most interested to see a snap or 2 of your Kaltmangels" I'm not sure I have ever seen one. Many years ago I did have a box mangel, I understand this was used to polish the table linen.


Post# 550696 , Reply# 31   10/20/2011 at 10:59 (4,568 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Oh my Lord in Heaven!

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What a beautiful, beautiful Dalmation.


Post# 550703 , Reply# 32   10/20/2011 at 11:24 (4,568 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Before we had labs, we had Dalmatians. Fortunately ours (except for one) were very warm and friendly. The last one we had wasn't all that friendly and tended to stay to herself. But they don't have a shedding season, they shed all the time!

They also make excellent frisbee players.

Did you know that Dalmatians were very popular in America in the 1950's


Post# 550769 , Reply# 33   10/20/2011 at 13:53 (4,568 days old) by mrtumble ()        

my mum had a frigidare spin dryer like theone in the pic!! lid hinges got busted so you had to hold lid down!! my job was to hold bucket in front to catch water!! was still in working order when i took it the dump at some point in the 1990s!!


Post# 550773 , Reply# 34   10/20/2011 at 13:57 (4,568 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
Well I went to Amberley Working Museum and saw 2 spin dryers

One being a tiny saturn spin dryer...

Post# 550774 , Reply# 35   10/20/2011 at 14:00 (4,568 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
And the other...

Was a cleanmaster spinner. parked in the window. Traditional 2800 spin and spout (Grrrrr, I hate spinners with spouts but the above I adore!)

Post# 550929 , Reply# 36   10/21/2011 at 02:08 (4,568 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
Spinmarster and Saturn + My dals

I Love both of these did the Saturn really work?

Mickeyd I have to dals they are both really over friendly. I rescued both of them 2 years ago when my much lover westie died at 14. I had to change my life a lot to give them a home as they need a lot of exercise 2/3 hours a day walking. As soon as my westie died I booked a trip to the US and wanted to go to the convention.
1 week with no dog in the house and someone sent me a pic of the dal above that needed a home urgently I called them late that night the dog was in Birmingham about 120 miles from London by 8 the next morning I was ringing the door bell it was love at 1st sight and by 8.30 he was on his way back to London to start a new life. 2 weeks later the same M8 sent me a 2nd Picture of a Dal that needed a new home this time in the north after talking to the owners I was in the car driving 200 miles to see her again love at 1st sight for both me and the 1st dal. They wanted £200.00 for her and at this point I found I had driven over 200 miles and forgotten my wallet and there was no way they where going to let me send them a cheque so I drive home thank god I had a full tank pick up my wallet drive back and collect her 18 hours and 1000 miles later she arrived back home Thankfully they are both loving to myself and my partner and devoted to each other. Its off to finish the cleaning now then a few hours work and back in time to give them lunch and take them out again.


Post# 550930 , Reply# 37   10/21/2011 at 02:13 (4,568 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
Trip has to wait

Can leave them for about 1 more year so my trip can wait, Meet Lulu

Post# 550931 , Reply# 38   10/21/2011 at 02:33 (4,568 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

How old are your Dals? They look like relatively young dog.

Congratulations for rescuing them. I know they will forever thank you. Here in the United States most people realize that Dalmatians are not for everyone. I certainly don't recommend them for first time dog owners. As you know they can be a handful.
But you are giving them the proper amount of exercise so that helps with their behavior tremendously. Have you tried playing Frisbee or ball with them?
I am a former memeber of DCA, which is the Dalmatian Club of America. You can't just join this group you have to be invited by two different members and your admittance is based on your knowledge of the breed. So if you have any Dal questions don't be afraid to ask.
The 101 Dalmatian movie really ruined the breed here in the U.S. Everyone who had a kid wanted one. They were then overbred. Due to the nature of the dog thousands of them ended up in shelters. It was very sad. But that was in the late 80s early 90's and you don't see that many of them around anymore.
I find that properly trained, they make excellent companion dogs. They are very in tune with their owners.
The photo is of Kelley, our last Dalmatian with Brandy our first Golden/Lab mix.


Post# 550936 , Reply# 39   10/21/2011 at 03:36 (4,568 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
More Dals

Hi Its was the same story here with the film 101, I have had dogs from the age of 5 the 2 above are my 8th and 9th When I had the westie i also had a dane that lived till 11 she was a handfull. Funny these 2 do not like to play ball when out they play with each other and other dogs constantly. We are lucky to live closed to a Police dog training unit so they get to play with a number of well trained dogs every day. Munchie is 3 Lulu 2. He was loved but the owner just could not care for him but they are still in touch and send x/mas b/day cards etc. Lulu was not so lucky caged by a breeder for 6 months who found she was not going to be a show dog so sold her to an owner that tired her to a line in a yard and went to work. Oddly given this start in life she is the best behaved dog I have ever had, lulu was not her Kennel Club name I called here Lulu as she loves to sing and talk very loudly. If my partner takes her out she spends 5 minutes telling me about it when she gets back and once a month I have to do away on business for 2 days and my partner then works from home to be with them, Lulu sits by the door until she heres my car turn in the drive. Munchie on the other hand is he's dog he rings around 5 to say he has left the office and Munchie then waits at the door for him. i think they must be the 2 most devoted dogs I have ever had. And thanks for the offer of advise I may take you up on that if I need 2. 1 last pic

Have a good day M8


Post# 551006 , Reply# 40   10/21/2011 at 10:48 (4,567 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Yes, Dalmatians can "talk". Our first Dalmatian "Deco" talked a lot. We were always amazed by the sounds that would come out of him. Some of the others talked from time to time, but Kelley (pictured) would just bark.

So either of your dogs "smile"? Two of ours did. Usually when they are very happy about something like when you come home from work is when they'll do it. Sometimes people take it for aggression, but when they are doing it they are usually wagging their tails wildly. If you note when they are smiling the nose stays down & flat.
When they are truly showing aggression their nose will be moved upwards and back.

That's odd that they don't play with a ball. Most Dals here are natural retrievers. But if they get to play with the other dogs, that's great especially for socialization. I am happy that you are enjoying your dogs.



Post# 551011 , Reply# 41   10/21/2011 at 11:24 (4,567 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
Smiling Dals

Hi Yes they both Smile but only Lulu talks, They love toys at home but there are just to many things going on that are more fun outside

Post# 551065 , Reply# 42   10/21/2011 at 15:52 (4,567 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Wow, two smilers in the same house. Only about 50-60% of them smile. Deco was big smiler on top of being a big talker. We had a male named Data (he came named that way) and he talked a little bit and never smiled.

Back in the 1800's & early 1900's Dalmatians were used in circus acts. They really are very smart. But they can be very, very stubborn too. A lot of people who aren't that familiar with the breed think they are stupid. Not true, just stubborn. They know what you mean and won't do it until they want to. Positive reinforcement repetition training is what works with then. Rough handling can make them very resistant to further training. But is sounds to me like you have it right since they are learning from you.

Funny Dalmatian story for you.
Years ago when I had my Dalmatians at work the subject of dogs came up. One woman said that "My neighbor has a Dalmatian, but I think something is wrong with it." I asked her what was wrong with the dog. Her response "It doesn't have black spots, it has brown spots. She took it to the vet and the vet said not to worry, but the owner still thinks something is wrong with it to be that color.".

I thought you'd like that one.



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