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Post# 551819   10/25/2011 at 13:21 (4,559 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

Hey everyone, since I got here, I'd figure I would show the 21 year old Whirlpool pair we have. Some of you may have seen my youtube videos on them too, i'll share a video in the last post.


There are some marks on the cabinets as you can see, but it is nothing major, and maybe in the future, if affordable, I'd love to get them repainted, but they still work flawlessly. and overall are still in good condition.








Post# 551820 , Reply# 1   10/25/2011 at 13:22 (4,559 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

On both panels you can see the the Clean Touch touch pads have cracked over time, but the control themselves work 100%.




Post# 551821 , Reply# 2   10/25/2011 at 13:23 (4,559 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

Tub pic.

The corners of the lid need cleaning but I soon plan to get to that.




Post# 551822 , Reply# 3   10/25/2011 at 13:24 (4,559 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

I love this on the lid, you don't see this today.




Post# 551823 , Reply# 4   10/25/2011 at 13:25 (4,559 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

Now for the dryer!



Post# 551824 , Reply# 5   10/25/2011 at 13:27 (4,559 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

Drum for the dryer, and also the washer vid on this post. Oh and for those who want to know...

Washer: LA9500XTW0

Dryer LG9501XTW0


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Post# 551825 , Reply# 6   10/25/2011 at 13:33 (4,559 days old) by joefuss1984 (Little Rock, AR)        
high and low speed agitation shift

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I had a newer one of these with the cycle logic system. Bought in mid-2000's. My Kenmore Direct Drives that I owned I selected what wash spin speed I wanted. These started out on high and switched to low mid cycle and I never understood why. Perhaps you could offer some insight?

Post# 551827 , Reply# 7   10/25/2011 at 13:36 (4,559 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

From what i've seen on the manual. It goes to the lower speed the last 4 minutes of the wash for extra fabric care. I think all Whirlpool brand direct drives (with the exception of low models) did this.

Post# 551829 , Reply# 8   10/25/2011 at 13:42 (4,559 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        

my '97 WP DD does the wash speed shift too.

Post# 551831 , Reply# 9   10/25/2011 at 13:43 (4,559 days old) by joefuss1984 (Little Rock, AR)        
high and low speed agitation shift

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I never really liked that....I always felt my jeans faded more with the higher agitation. I guess its one of those personal preference things

Post# 551833 , Reply# 10   10/25/2011 at 13:54 (4,559 days old) by joefuss1984 (Little Rock, AR)        
styling

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i did like the styling of your set better than my newer one tho

Post# 551837 , Reply# 11   10/25/2011 at 14:07 (4,559 days old) by rpms (ontario canada)        

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I just used an Inglis/Whirpool washer, for the first time today, with the same features and agitator. I don't get the reduced agitation, either? After 12 minutes of heavy agitation, what does the 4 minutes of reduced do? I also don't understand why the agitaor has all those vanes at the top? The water never gets that high.
I have a Kenmore with the dual action agitator. I would have to say, the Kenmore is much quieter, than the Inglis/Whirlpool.


Post# 551839 , Reply# 12   10/25/2011 at 14:15 (4,559 days old) by joefuss1984 (Little Rock, AR)        
agitator

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My Kenmore and my Whirlpool had the same agitator as this one did. I have always thought Kenmore was quieter as well. I am sure it is something do with how they do the quiet packs. I don't really understand that part either, because i never see any sound insulation. This Whirlpool is nicer than the one I had.

DD Dave - have you ever had to change the dog ears in the agitator on this? My mom's Kenmore had to have them changed about 3 or 4 times in the short 8 year time span of the washer. My Kenmore and Whirlpool that I owned never did.


Post# 551842 , Reply# 13   10/25/2011 at 14:31 (4,559 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
I really like this set

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I've seen all the videos of it that you've posted. You would know me as Dualactionsurgilator on YT. Glad you found this site.
Nick


Post# 551848 , Reply# 14   10/25/2011 at 15:06 (4,559 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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the step down is referred to as "Gentle Wash"......more of a SOAK than anything else, on a regular load, once the shift down, all wash action/rollover stops, even with the DA agitator........

the only reason for the top fins of the agitator is the SWIRL effect/look of the Surgilator

I have never had one of these machines shred anything......and I washed good size loads......eventually I changed my DA, for the larger base version from a KitchenAid....turbulent rollover on high speed, and actual movement on gentle...


Post# 551857 , Reply# 15   10/25/2011 at 16:24 (4,559 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

joefuss: Yep, we had the agitator dogs replaced in 2002,and that is the ONLY repair this machine has had so far.

rpms: I think they just put the vanes on that high part of the agitator just for looks, however I prefer the Whirlpool agitator over the Kenmore only because I like the taller design and those vanes, just something more to watch :) and also, in many vids I have seen, it seems the Whirlpool agitator turns much more freely than the Kenmore one does.

Nick! I was actually wondering if you were on here, cool that you are!

Yogitunes: I do know what you mean about the slower agitation, though I am more than okay with it since I figure that by that point the high speed got off most of the dirt that it needed to. I have actually never seen a difference in cleaning compared to the ones that do high speed for all the wash ad same here, this machine has never torn up anything we own, and being a 3-speed machine, it is excellent for delicates.

One concern I have though with what ya said is, about the KitchenAid agitator and i'm not fully sure if a motor for a Whirlpool was meant to handle the extra drag from the larger base for its high speed.


Post# 551869 , Reply# 16   10/25/2011 at 17:42 (4,559 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

We have the electronic version of your set, the LA9800TX. You are right, the last 5 minutes of the regular wash cycle is done at low agitation speeds. Right now we don't have a low speed on our machine. If you select the gentle wash cycle it'll fill, sit there for about 7 minutes without agitating and then go into a neutral drain and spin. I think it needs a new transmission. So the last 5 minutes on ours is a 5 minute soak, and then the machine continues the cycle.
Sometime this winter I'm going to put a new transmission in it and hopefully the machine will last for another 10-12 years.


Post# 551871 , Reply# 17   10/25/2011 at 17:45 (4,559 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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in actuality, the larger base agitator was for any 2 or 3 speed agitation, as long as the 2 lowest ones were used for agitation, any speed for spin.......

I put this in any machine I use......even in high speed, although some argue about strain on the tranny, but never had that issue, but there is no difference between Kenmore, Whirlpool, KitchenAid, all the same underneath, one tranny for all...

if you ever come across one, fill your machine with just water, and run the machine on high speed agitation, switching out the agitators back and forth....
you will be suprised at the tidal wave......


Post# 551884 , Reply# 18   10/25/2011 at 19:14 (4,559 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

whirlcool: That's not the transmission, that is probably a problem with your motor or maybe your control board.

yogitunes: that's pretty interesting to know. Is your KA agitator one of those cool green ones?


Post# 551902 , Reply# 19   10/25/2011 at 20:44 (4,559 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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they call it turquoise, which I can't stand, although now its available all in white, I usually switch out the top corkscrew for a white one, since thats all I see while operating the machine.....

take note, the bigger base covers the bottom holes....


Post# 551904 , Reply# 20   10/25/2011 at 21:15 (4,559 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

ahh, cool deal. One thing I always did love was that metallic finished fabric softener dispenser!

Post# 551947 , Reply# 21   10/26/2011 at 03:50 (4,558 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Dave:

Does the motor have two speeds to it? It runs fine at normal agitation speeds, but no low speed at all. I would think that if it was a control panel problem it would probably still do the Knits/Gentle if not the slow agitation at the end of the normal cycle. But it doesn't do either.

One thing the trans was doing about a year ago was making a clicking sound during agitation. It no longer makes that sound and we have no low speed agitation.


Post# 551950 , Reply# 22   10/26/2011 at 05:42 (4,558 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Allen, the motor is 2-speed. The transmission has nothing to do with speeds, either agitation or spin. It's not a clutch system like GE. Speed is determined via the motor RPM. You have an electrical problem somewhere with getting power to the low-speed winding of the motor (or a bad motor), not a mechanical problem.


Post# 551981 , Reply# 23   10/26/2011 at 08:59 (4,558 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

whirlcool, the motor we have is 3-speed. If you check out this site here, that should have many necessary parts when you put in your model number.



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Post# 552107 , Reply# 24   10/26/2011 at 18:58 (4,558 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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heres a youtube video of the larger agitator in action......


many thanks to DADoES for filming and posting it......


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Post# 552109 , Reply# 25   10/26/2011 at 19:06 (4,558 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

ahh yeah, I have seen that vid many times!


Now I know that is the top speed for a KitchenAid machine, but (just so i'm not confused) were you saying you also had this agitator performing with Whirlpool's top speed?


Post# 552112 , Reply# 26   10/26/2011 at 19:27 (4,558 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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YES.....actually I used it in a Kenmore Limited with a 3 speed.....always on the HeavyDuty cycle, fast wash and spin.....the smaller fin DAplus didn't seem to move the load the way I wanted it to......and on gentle, nothing moved, unless you loaded the machine 1/3 with clothes on a full water level....

in the newer models of Kenmores, Normal was medium speed with a fast spin....this agitator was perfect for that, and quieted the machine down to nothing....


Post# 552113 , Reply# 27   10/26/2011 at 19:34 (4,558 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

cool deal man.


How available are those KA agitators though? (just curious)


Post# 552120 , Reply# 28   10/26/2011 at 20:17 (4,558 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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for the most part they should still be available.....have seen them on ebay as well.....they now come in blue or white......

someone here may have spares...


Post# 552122 , Reply# 29   10/26/2011 at 20:37 (4,558 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

Nice, i'll take a peek when interested. Thanks!

Post# 552124 , Reply# 30   10/26/2011 at 20:49 (4,558 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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The turquoise part number is 3349583 for the base and 3349582 for the auger.

White full-assembly substitution is 3950579.

There's a used turquoise full agitator on eBay listed under 3349583 and 3950579.


Post# 552137 , Reply# 31   10/26/2011 at 22:24 (4,558 days old) by appnut (TX)        
they call it turquoise, which I can't stand,

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Well at least it isn't pink!!!!!!  Ewww!!


Post# 552216 , Reply# 32   10/27/2011 at 09:06 (4,557 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

lol, did they actually make them in that color?

Post# 552218 , Reply# 33   10/27/2011 at 09:15 (4,557 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I don't think they ever came in pink.........I just like the white on white on white.....seems so clean and crisp.......

MrEric has an added splash shield to his KitchenAid, transferred from a Calypso, a nice trim addition.....wonder if I can talk him into posting a pic of it....

not to mention he has the matching dryer with the oven door window, and interior light that comes on during use.......could not imagine this machine without it

just wish these machines came with a top work light....

we like little upgrades....


Thanks DADoES for the part numbers, I may want to order a full white one for the heck of it.....


Post# 552264 , Reply# 34   10/27/2011 at 13:38 (4,557 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Actually this is Eric's set......I just need him to post a money shot of the washer

love that window....


Post# 552274 , Reply# 35   10/27/2011 at 14:31 (4,557 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

wow, that's awesome!

Post# 552290 , Reply# 36   10/27/2011 at 15:28 (4,557 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Hey Guys

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Here's an old early mornin' video of the Big AQUA (that's for you Bob) Kitchen Aid agitator in a Whirlpool on high speed. It is pretty fast. Enjoy. Please excuse the Maytag Wringer interruption.



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Post# 552295 , Reply# 37   10/27/2011 at 15:55 (4,557 days old) by KenmoreBD (Mass, usa )        

The folks had a lower end 2 speed with black tub from 88/89, that was a great washer took abuse and never quit. Still have the dryer, washer rusted out in 02.

Post# 552344 , Reply# 38   10/27/2011 at 22:41 (4,557 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

Micky, that was one of the very first washer vids I ever saw on youtube, I still enjoy watching it!

Post# 552347 , Reply# 39   10/27/2011 at 23:35 (4,557 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Keep them forever!

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Whatever you do keep these machines going. No DD Whirlpool/Kenmores are being made now. I've heard from several sources that the new PSC belt drive is not near as good. Besides great durability and wash performance the styling of these machines is timeless. These come from a great series of machines and are pretty near TOL(only the Whirlpool Imperial, Lady Kenmore, Kenmore LTD. and KitchenAid Superba had more options that I know of) in WP's lineup. This pic shows WP's top machine in 1986 the all Electronic Kenmore LTD. These were produced up through the late 90's

Post# 552349 , Reply# 40   10/27/2011 at 23:47 (4,557 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

Indeed, I know that very well, that was one of Whirlpool's biggest mistakes. In fact, about a month ago, I had the chance to see one of those new belt drives at one of the houses in the neighborhood, and "oh dear" is all I can say.....

In fact I soon plan to may another youtube video comparing the DD to the BD (newer), not really a machine operation video, more like another one of my opinion videos.

Indeed I remember those electronic Kenmores in your vids, and you know I am more of a mechanical control guy, but the panel light yours has is a huge plus and it was still very impressive and good to see!

Did you ever happen to get the transmission worked on yet?


Post# 552416 , Reply# 41   10/28/2011 at 10:39 (4,556 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
WP DD WASHERS

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There are still two WP DD washers being built, both the 24 & 27" thin twins are regular DD washers and we are still selling them.


Post# 552419 , Reply# 42   10/28/2011 at 10:56 (4,556 days old) by joefuss1984 (Little Rock, AR)        

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Any chance we can get some pictures of the mechanics on one of the new Belt Drives you speak of?  I have a Kenmore Oasis, more of a fisher and paykel design i think.  They say its a direct drive tho. 


Post# 552421 , Reply# 43   10/28/2011 at 11:13 (4,556 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
WP DD's & Youtube movies

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John, those thin twins are so much fun and versatile. The place where I stay in Pompano has them, so sturdy, many sets almost 10 years old and issue free.

 

How cool, Dave: first movie you've seen and first one I ever made. Wish I knew hoe to chop it up so I could put the Easy Spin section in Dick's or Pete's thread. What's your Youtube name so I can watch your WP movies?


Post# 552423 , Reply# 44   10/28/2011 at 11:15 (4,556 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

I do believe you can see that in a youtube video if you search for it, I cannot remember the exact name for it, but it will show you some stuff.

Post# 552424 , Reply# 45   10/28/2011 at 11:18 (4,556 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

pardon the double post but I cant edit posts since I am a standard member.

oh those are your vids? cool to know! :D


Here is my youtube :)



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Post# 552435 , Reply# 46   10/28/2011 at 12:59 (4,556 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Nice videos Dave........but one question on the ejection pump......is your drain hose piped directly into it?........

I have a sewage ejector underground for the bathroom in the basement, of which the washers drain into that, but I MUST have a laundry tub and a filter screen on the drain hoses, as per the instructions, not so much about the lint, but any strings that may wrap around and jam the the impeller......

just worried for you, should you not be home, and this jams.....you would have a serious flood.....


Post# 552439 , Reply# 47   10/28/2011 at 13:38 (4,556 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

We did think about that. From what I saw on the box, it does NOT require screens. I myself did think exactly about what you had just said, but yeah, it hasnt had any problems.

Post# 552712 , Reply# 48   10/29/2011 at 19:35 (4,555 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

Oh also, the only time I could hear the standpipe "filling" is when I accidentally put too much detergent in for a medium load (too sudsy), but it still never overflowed and any other times it works perfect.

But anyway, since that is a machine from 2010, I'll post some pics in the Deluxe board later this month. :)


Post# 552737 , Reply# 49   10/30/2011 at 00:49 (4,554 days old) by jbinflorida ()        

I noticed your 1990 Whirlpool dryer has the moisture sensor but no light in the drum. Looks to be an intresting model. Thats a great pair! I have a set of Whirlpools I bought back in 1999 and I hope to keep them another 12 years!

Good luck with them!


Post# 552756 , Reply# 50   10/30/2011 at 08:09 (4,554 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

It was probably before they started putting lights in the drum, not quite sure what year that started. But, yep, I actually did do some checking around any many parts are still available, should they require replacement, so, things should be okay for a while!

Post# 552780 , Reply# 51   10/30/2011 at 10:47 (4,554 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
WP DRYER DRUM LIGHTS

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WP has been putting drum lights in dryers since 1949, this model was not quite TOL and did not get a light.


Post# 552861 , Reply# 52   10/30/2011 at 19:39 (4,554 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        
Finally!

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Here's a money shot of the lovely KA washer, complete with its stock turqoise agi and the ingenious splashguard that our Yogi installed...

Post# 552862 , Reply# 53   10/30/2011 at 19:41 (4,554 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        
And...

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...a money shot of the super fancy Superba dryer with the oven door, as installed and in operation.

Post# 552863 , Reply# 54   10/30/2011 at 19:45 (4,554 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham))        

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The turquoise agi helps me to get over the lack of my old A806, and the set is delightful and quiet and does a spectacular job. I only feel a little bit bat about the oven door not being in a place where it can be enjoyed, but I have plans... this set will move with me to my next home and I hope to be able to give them a spot where they can be seen.

Now, to find the washer a Superba control panel...


Post# 552864 , Reply# 55   10/30/2011 at 19:52 (4,554 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

the dryer light is on when it runs too? that's pretty cool!

Post# 1063002 , Reply# 56   3/12/2020 at 18:15 (1,498 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
clean touch

When did whirlpool come out with the clean touch design? What were the cycles and buttons? What did they do?

Post# 1063007 , Reply# 57   3/12/2020 at 19:28 (1,498 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Wash...Rinse...Repeat


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