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Post# 556135   11/12/2011 at 17:45 (3,978 days old) by wetguymd (Maryland)        

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I replaced this in my house about 6 months ago with "the new modern LG stainless overpriced piece of crap". While it looks good it can't even begin to compare with the KitchenAid. It was in the house when I moved here 10 years ago and I used it at least once a day ever since. Last winter it started to act up and would start up all by its self and I was afraid there was an electrical issue that may cause a fire. I would leave the door unlached so it would not start on its own. It doesn't do this all the time but I was out voted in the house to replace it. If anyone here wants it let me know. I need to get it out of my garage where its been sitting since last summer. I don't know much about dishwashers at all so I'm not sure what the year is and I may have it posted in the wrong forum. The interior is stainless and in excellent condition.

Post# 556200 , Reply# 1   11/12/2011 at 23:24 (3,977 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

I'm not sure if this belongs in the Deluxe Forum, that dishwasher looks too new. Sorry to hear that the electronics are going on it. Hard to say what the problem could be. Could be anything from a shorting button on the control panel to a controller issue.

Sorry to hear you're not happy with your LG. When I was replacing my Roper dishwasher, Kitchenaid and Miele were the two candidates I was considering. I considered Miele because of the separate cutlery drawer that the Kitchenaid didn't have. Plus, I'm not a big fan of "Integrated" control dishwashers.

I wish you the best of luck finding someone to pick up your old one for repair.

Post# 556223 , Reply# 2   11/13/2011 at 01:09 (3,977 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0600 CST.))        
Too Bad

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The machine you replaced was a KA with the WP Powerclean wash system and a SS interior. There is no way the LG can compete. Parts are still available from Whirlpool. Save this machine if you can. It is a true modern classic. Better than the shit made today.

Post# 556228 , Reply# 3   11/13/2011 at 02:02 (3,977 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

One of the things I really liked about the old portable Kitchenaid Dishwasher we used in our Home Economics classes in high school (I judged it must have been of some 1970's vintage) was that it would sit there and wait to boil the water before it began washing. You could even hear it boiling away before the machine kicked in.

In some ways, I wish my Miele did that. It has an inline water heater, so I can't really boil the water in the same way the Kitchenaid does.

Post# 556259 , Reply# 4   11/13/2011 at 08:50 (3,977 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
I don't understand

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I've heard other members say good things about the current crop of LG dishwashers. I'm curious, not disagreeing, what was so bad about it?

Post# 556270 , Reply# 5   11/13/2011 at 10:13 (3,977 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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This was the last of the good KAs and WP stopped producing the power-clean machines for Sears around march this year. 


I don't mean to be Negative and everyone here knows that I never am LOL. But there are NO great performing DWs left anywhere in the world made for home use. NONE have a large enough motor that produces enough water power, NONE has a disposer that completely disposes of all the food waste [ up to a full cup or more ] that will cling to a full load of dishes. And NONE can do this in around an hour or so.


Dishwashers today are a very different appliance, they reached thier point of perfection in the mid 1980s and really started to go down hill in the 2000s when the US companies started coping many of the features and attributes of European machines, if you value great performance hold on to your older machines.

Post# 556351 , Reply# 6   11/13/2011 at 16:27 (3,977 days old) by qualin (Canada)        
To Combo52

I'd like to disagree with your last post.

I own a Miele G2432SCU Optima Series Dishwasher and I'm very happy with it.
Here's a pic in the link below..
(Although, mine is white because I'm not a big fan of stainless steel.)

It does take the European approach, taking two hours to do a cycle, while our old noisy Roper took about 40 minutes, but it's like night and day. I don't care if the cycle is shorter, it's a moot point if the dishes don't get cleaned.

Ours doesn't have a disposer, but that's good. That makes it dead quiet. It doesn't need one, the strainer in the machine is perfect. I check it about once a month and there's hardly anything in it. When there is, it's extremely easy to clean. If I forget, the machine turns on a warning light, but continues to do its job.

The built in water softener works like a charm too. I just use regular water softener salt, which is 99.4 percent pure salt with no additives, it's really difficult to find "Dishwasher Water Softener Salt" here.

My friends cringed at me when I told them that I spent $2100 on a dishwasher. In my opinion it's worth every penny. It has out cleaned my 1990's vintage GE Potscrubber, my parents 1980's vintage Inglis and my 1980's vintage Kenmore, which was basically a rebadged Whirlpool.

I think the dishwashing engineering philosophy has changed. They do the same amount of work, just over a longer period of time, quietly and efficiently.


Post# 556416 , Reply# 7   11/14/2011 at 00:04 (3,976 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains )        

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That is a great dishwasher.There is no difference in it and the Whirlpool/Kenmore save for that signature  stainless steel Wash arm and interior.I would not even scrape plates when I had my Kenmore Power clean.I threw whole plates of food in it rolls,beans,everything and they were spotless when done.My Best friends Kenmore with the same wash system had a dispose option it tells you that the machine will grind and flush away hard and soft food and it does and there was no difference between her machine and my save for a few things.The most powerful dishwasher that is made now are Viking dishwasher's intellia-wash system with that ultra hard food disposer in it.I know that the wash motor in it is a inverter controlled 3phase 1/2 H.P. motor and it's a very powerful dishwasher for the brief moment I got to play with it the other day..I still prefer the old Kitchenaids or G.E. Potsmasher's that used water I get so tired of these dishwasher's that are out today.They put these little motors in them and then brag about how good they wash with a gallon of water and now we have 7 hour wash cycles.That to me just seems like a clever all consumers are stupid notion.Yes they might use less water and less power but buying a new dishwasher every 4 years instead of 14  seems far worse.

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