Thread Number: 37593
Swedish Electrolux EWC-1350 help needed... |
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Post# 558992   11/24/2011 at 18:27 (4,681 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Hi guys...yesterday I picked up one of these supposedly new in the box.
Very cute size, 3 kg, easy to move around! So when I unpacked it, and went to remove the shipping bolts, they were already removed (I'm glad I moved it upright). So I looked in the back of the detergent drawer and did notice a little detergent residue. So I read the manual and set it up and pluged it into my 220v line (the one I use for other orphan European washers) and followed the instructions to get it going. Well it won't go. I set the programme, then set the spin speed, then press power button. The light that tells you that the wash is done (flashing light) just flashes. No door lock, no water, no sounds... I guess I know why they wanted to get rid of it. Do the flashes indicate errors? It does flash 11 times and then rests before repeating. Dissapointed, but not giving up! Maybe it needs a control board? Any help or suggestions are appreciated. The pic is a generic. Guy |
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Post# 558998 , Reply# 1   11/24/2011 at 19:22 (4,681 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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I just asked a colleague to find me the service manuals for it... I'll keep you posted. |
Post# 559000 , Reply# 2   11/24/2011 at 19:24 (4,681 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 559054 , Reply# 4   11/25/2011 at 07:57 (4,681 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Well as far as I can tell, the machine is totally electronic. I don't have any trouble with the other AEG I have, but it is totally mechanical.
I had no idea that the 50/60 hertz would affect the electronics. I realized the motor and pump would work slightly faster, but it wasn't going to be a daily driver. My electrician has wired a special outlet that I can use my 220v stuff (a couple of vacuums and a washer). I just never thought that circuit boards would care about the hertz. Guy |
Post# 559312 , Reply# 8   11/26/2011 at 07:46 (4,680 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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from where I stand now, I think I like the sound of Supreme's idea of getting a power inverter (I had no idea these things existed!)
So after looking at the link, I am wonding where do I get the 12 volt power supply from? I am fine spending the extra cash for the inverter, but what else do I need to get? Do I have to have a car battery in the laundry room??!! Since I'm already in $250 dollars on the machine, I just have to get it going for a least a while! Thomas...I must be one of those customers that Elux is talking about! Thanks all, I really thought I may have ended up with a 50 kg door stop! Guy |
Post# 559322 , Reply# 10   11/26/2011 at 09:13 (4,680 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 559345 , Reply# 11   11/26/2011 at 10:00 (4,680 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)   |   | |
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Hello there,
it is quite possible to step up the voltage from 110v 60hz to 220v 50hz. I do not know about the price but thort this link might be usefull. CLICK HERE TO GO TO brummybear's LINK |
Post# 559346 , Reply# 12   11/26/2011 at 10:01 (4,680 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)   |   | |
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Post# 559355 , Reply# 13   11/26/2011 at 10:28 (4,680 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Eean! Thanks for chiming in. I looked at the link you provided, and could not find one that you could switch to 50hz. I think those are for using on items that are not so dependent of hz, indicated by the 50/60 hz label reading.
I have found this one, now I have to fiqure out how to get the 12v supply to it! Guy CLICK HERE TO GO TO bellalaundry's LINK on eBay |
Post# 559364 , Reply# 15   11/26/2011 at 11:12 (4,680 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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that 12v power supply looks HUGE!
I calculated that at 220v supply and 1600watts for the machine, that comes out to 5.7 amps. So...wouldn't the attached link 12v power supply be okay? Guy CLICK HERE TO GO TO bellalaundry's LINK |
Post# 559373 , Reply# 18   11/26/2011 at 11:44 (4,680 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)   |   | |
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what kind of motor does this washer use?if it's anything other than an induction motor directly run from the mains,line HZ shouldn't matter-just need to figure a way to fool the control electronics into thinking it's running 50hz... |
Post# 559384 , Reply# 19   11/26/2011 at 13:04 (4,680 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)   |   | |
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Post# 559421 , Reply# 21   11/26/2011 at 16:17 (4,680 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 559422 , Reply# 22   11/26/2011 at 16:21 (4,680 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 559525 , Reply# 23   11/26/2011 at 22:09 (4,679 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()   |   | |
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Guy/bellalaundry: What's your next move? Maybe us members here can maybe simplify things for you? |
Post# 559529 , Reply# 24   11/26/2011 at 22:20 (4,679 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Went through this with my Pfaff ironer early on (requires 3.05 kW/50hz @ 220v/50hz).
Unit runs on 60hz well enough and was designed to be sold/used all over the world so *whatever* 220v power source (American 2 wire vs European 1 wire system and so forth)will power the unit. There is even a method of adjusting the speed of the roller to compensate for changes that would occur when using the unit in either 50hz or 60hz situations. As for voltage both our Miele repairman, Miele's technicans and our electrican explained the rules. For things such as washing machines and other appliances with large motors, heating requiremnts etc one needs a converter at least *twice* to *three* times the maximum load. Otherwise one will simply burn out the unit which should ever exceed using 1/3 to 1/2 of it's rating. In the USA the largest units sold for domestic use top out at around 10,000 watts or more and *must* be hardwired into an outlet. The problem with washers,dryers and other items with heaters that draw high amounts of power is that they can do so for sustained periods. Think about a washer heating cold tap water to 140F or even 195F. That is going to require some time. If the unit is plugged into the proper rated electrical socket this isn't a problem. However running such a thing off a converter and or inverter means that unit must work very hard for a very long time. This could create conditions leading to an electrical fire. If nothing else using a unit that is under powered for the job will simply cause it to burn out before it's time. If you really want a headache, pipe: CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK This post was last edited 11/27/2011 at 01:35 |
Post# 559590 , Reply# 27   11/27/2011 at 01:41 (4,679 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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They are all pretty much the USA market has when it comes to step-up/step-down converters. There are some better versions on the market, these are sold to those who know and or for such bodies as the federal government including the military, embassy staff and such. Such units though tend to be *very* expensive and again if one is going at or >5kW should if not must be hardwired.
Motors and *surge currents*, yes that came up with Miele and others. Even using an appliance such as my ironer that has a motor can cause problems. Constant stopping and starting one was told would stress an improperly sized converter. |
Post# 559639 , Reply# 28   11/27/2011 at 08:37 (4,679 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 559658 , Reply# 30   11/27/2011 at 09:45 (4,679 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 560438 , Reply# 33   11/30/2011 at 16:24 (4,676 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 560441 , Reply# 34   11/30/2011 at 16:38 (4,675 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 560447 , Reply# 35   11/30/2011 at 17:41 (4,675 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 560543 , Reply# 36   12/1/2011 at 03:24 (4,675 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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I never needed one. Actually I never have come across one either. Which one is missing? And what color is your control panel, white or brown?
Eddy1210 here knows a repairman in Vancouver who repairs German appliances (mainly Miele and AEG), he might be able to help you. Eddy can give you his address. |