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Post# 562607   12/11/2011 at 10:50 (4,370 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Hello!
Tomorrow I am picking up a Hotpoint WM12 as scrap! It is in good nick but a thin layer of dirt wich i will clean off.

Expect vids on wed, i have got youtube and do check out my videos.

Chris.


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Post# 562613 , Reply# 1   12/11/2011 at 11:13 (4,370 days old) by HotpointFan (United Kingdom)        
Chris

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Cannot wait! A fellow member here (SuperElectronic) has one of these and enjoys it!

I'd say between 1994 and 1997 so expect plenty of reliability.

Please can I request a 95 boilwash please, but I can see it in March if you cant upload.

Thank You

Jacob


Post# 562620 , Reply# 2   12/11/2011 at 11:28 (4,370 days old) by henrypeter21 ()        
The original hotpoint...

These hotpoints were alot better then the newer ones, but unfortunatly hotpoint dont exist as we knew them, meaning that alot of the designs are by indesit, which i have to say are not the best. I would say that the final decent built hotpoint was the wm64... They Were Brilliant!

Post# 562635 , Reply# 3   12/11/2011 at 13:24 (4,370 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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As much as Hotpoint were decent washers, they were always a bit hit and miss with reliability. Quality control at the Hotpoint plant was shocking! If you got a good one, it would last years. But if you got a duff one, you were screwed!

Also, with regards to the above comment regarding "alot of the designs are by indesit", ALL of the current Hotpoints are designed by Indesit. Infact, Hotpoint and Indesit are made using exactly the same parts and most have the same programming. The only difference is the outside of the machine and the brand name.


Post# 562780 , Reply# 4   12/12/2011 at 12:26 (4,369 days old) by henrypeter21 ()        
The Origonal Hotpoint...

Oh, and i Forgot To mention that Indesit also own Ariston, Creda, as well as hotpoint i mentioned above. I have recently been looking on creda for spin dryers, and found out that the tumble dryers on their website looked exactly the same as a indesit dryer. If i found Our old WM64, i would happily get rid of the current hotpoint/indesit and put the WM64 in its place!

Post# 562971 , Reply# 5   12/13/2011 at 07:50 (4,368 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
It is here!!!!!!!

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Post# 562982 , Reply# 6   12/13/2011 at 08:49 (4,368 days old) by SuperElectronic (London, UK)        
How very familiar!

That's the same as my daily driver...serving my family and me since March 1996!

 

It's one of the later versions with more advanced spin control: gradual build-up to distribution into a short burst of 500, then a longer one, and in the final spins will add a third stage wherby it increases speed in three steps from 500 > 700 > 800rpm. Earlier versions of the model had the old distri-drain and spin profile. You can tell by a small difference in the rinse symbol/indication on the dial - the long line above the shower symbol came in with the later models; earlier machines just have a dot over the shower and a flower symbol at the final rinse position.

 

I had the bearings replaced in May and since then it's been on good form, bar an occasional leak from the door. Unfortunately, it's a bit rattly with any unbalanced load and the pump is rather noisy - but that's always been the case. My kickstrip is also peeling at the corners.

 

It's a very sound machine - you should enjoy it! Very good for a sudsy wash and water gushing down the door during spins (on fuller loads).

 

Alex


Post# 562985 , Reply# 7   12/13/2011 at 09:14 (4,368 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Hello Alex!

Glad you like it! I have seen yours and I do love the old hotties. There is now a video on you-tube of it, its rubbish bot oh well.

It is being put in the garage tonight, tested tommorrow and put in the shed on sat!


Post# 562988 , Reply# 8   12/13/2011 at 09:17 (4,368 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

The programmes.

The bearings are dead.


Post# 563030 , Reply# 9   12/13/2011 at 14:50 (4,367 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Update.
We moved it from the car, onto the garage floor and spun the drum by hand. The problem is THE DRUM HAS COME OFF ITS SHAFT!!!!!

Any what I am going to fix it and not let it go till April.(or I may just keep it!)


Post# 563033 , Reply# 10   12/13/2011 at 15:55 (4,367 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        
Easy and cheap to fix if you have an afternoon...

Probably a cracked spider. A spider and bearing kit is usually 20.

James.


Post# 563138 , Reply# 11   12/14/2011 at 03:06 (4,367 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Hi James.

The machine sits in the garage and I removed the back panel and evreything was intaced. Hopefully it will only be a new spider kit, not a drum!


Post# 563231 , Reply# 12   12/14/2011 at 12:35 (4,367 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        
Christopher...

Looked at your videos and yes you need a drum spider and bearing kit. You need to take the front panel off, unclip the front of the outer tub and get someone strong to unscrew the nut from the pulley while it is jammed. Pull inner drum out and knock bearings out, unbolt the drum from the spider and reverse steps to repair.

James.


Post# 563497 , Reply# 13   12/16/2011 at 03:46 (4,365 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Update,
I have taken the whole front of the machine off including the seal with out bookss or videos.


Post# 563692 , Reply# 14   12/17/2011 at 10:02 (4,364 days old) by henrypeter21 ()        
Hotpoint WM12!!!!!

OMG OMG OMG I cant Speak!!! You must get this machine up and running again! These machines were made in the early 1990s, and the model before this had the distribution-drains etc... Chain it up, lock it away, and for goodness sake dont let it get anywhere near the back of a SKIP LORRY!!!!

Post# 563713 , Reply# 15   12/17/2011 at 11:54 (4,364 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Progress- We removed the tub and the spider is broken.

Post# 563859 , Reply# 16   12/18/2011 at 07:49 (4,363 days old) by henrypeter21 ()        
Hotpoint WM12

Dont worry about the spider, you can get them cheap online, ebay may have them for a low cost. It is usually highly recommended that you replace the bearings at the same time too.

Post# 564064 , Reply# 17   12/19/2011 at 10:18 (4,362 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

i have orderd a spider kit and seal

Post# 565258 , Reply# 18   12/26/2011 at 09:40 (4,355 days old) by henrypeter21 ()        
Hotpoint WM12

Excellent.

Post# 565278 , Reply# 19   12/26/2011 at 13:22 (4,355 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Bearing seal out and bearings to do.

Pump + hoses all cleared.


Post# 565400 , Reply# 20   12/27/2011 at 12:18 (4,354 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
update 27/12/11

So I have removed the bearings and fitted the small one and the large bearing 3/4 of the way. The spider is now attached to the drum and will be tested tommorow. Pictures to follow.

Post# 565401 , Reply# 21   12/27/2011 at 12:23 (4,354 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Sitting there in the garage.

Post# 565403 , Reply# 22   12/27/2011 at 12:35 (4,354 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Intageral parts

Post# 565404 , Reply# 23   12/27/2011 at 12:39 (4,354 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

the old bearings. They were ok but we replaced them.

Post# 565405 , Reply# 24   12/27/2011 at 12:48 (4,354 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

New rear bearing applied

Post# 565406 , Reply# 25   12/27/2011 at 12:49 (4,354 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

large bearing allmost in.

Post# 565408 , Reply# 26   12/27/2011 at 12:57 (4,354 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Spider attached to drum

Post# 565413 , Reply# 27   12/27/2011 at 13:21 (4,354 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Inner bearing fitting..

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I found the easiest way to ensure the inner bearing was in and seated correctly was to use the old bearing on top of the new one and hammer them in you just remove the old one out the way. It helped to make sure you get it in straight and then use a little vaseline around the black seal to get it to go in easier. Boy it takes me back seeing the insides of that washer I had many a one of those in bits in my old shed :)

Keep up the good work.

Austin


Post# 565418 , Reply# 28   12/27/2011 at 14:07 (4,353 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Hi Austin.

We carved some wood on a lathe and tapped it in. the small bearing went in no hassle at all.


Post# 565560 , Reply# 29   12/28/2011 at 11:51 (4,353 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Well it now works!

Pictures soon!


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Post# 565565 , Reply# 30   12/28/2011 at 12:49 (4,353 days old) by henrypeter21 ()        
Question

Will you be recording wash cycles on this machine?

Post# 565570 , Reply# 31   12/28/2011 at 14:02 (4,352 days old) by SuperElectronic (London, UK)        

Well done! A sterling effort by you (and your Dad).

I've just watched the video and it's not behaving quite as mine does:

1) it's definitely NOT pumping out...at least not properly. The original pumps on these machines are pretty noisy and you'd hear it as well as see full drainage. It's possible you need to look at the sump catch pot and that area in general to check for a blockage, otherwise it may need a new pump or - more tricky - something is up with the wiring/timer.


2) The drum seems a bit stiff: it decelerates very quickly

3) I'm not sure it hit 800...although this may have been due to water remaining in the drum. Out of balance situations can also mean it goes from 500 to 700 but you don't get that last final ramp up to full speed. This could well sort itself out though!

I do have a video of mine but due to being filmed on a phone the sound quality is poor.

 

Incidentally, these machines have a zero delay door lock - once it clicks off the spin position (near O - they never did get the dials to line up properly) you can open the door. Also, if ever you switch it off during a spin sequence, note it will restart from the beginning.

 

Hope things sort themselves out as you progress!


Post# 565701 , Reply# 32   12/29/2011 at 02:04 (4,352 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

Love the sound the motor makes when it is spinning up.

Post# 565723 , Reply# 33   12/29/2011 at 06:37 (4,352 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
hi again

Henry- DEFINITLY!

Alex- During the vid we had forgotten to connect the pump up but it works fine now.And I used the wool spin.



Post# 565728 , Reply# 34   12/29/2011 at 06:52 (4,352 days old) by henrypeter21 ()        
Hotpoint WM12

Thanks. We had a Hotpoint WM64 for 7 years in beige. It was an excellent machine until the timer shot on it.

Post# 565729 , Reply# 35   12/29/2011 at 06:54 (4,352 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

We had a wm21 and that went for ages till 2002. A WMA63 took its place.

Post# 565730 , Reply# 36   12/29/2011 at 06:57 (4,352 days old) by henrypeter21 ()        
Hotpoint WM12

Thanks. We had a hotpoint wm64 in beige for 7 years. It was in ecellent condition until the timer shot on it.

Post# 566226 , Reply# 37   1/1/2012 at 05:49 (4,349 days old) by henrypeter21 ()        
Hotpoint WM12

A shop near me throws alot of these machines out, Even machines that only need a new door latch! Goes to show how much money people are wasting rather than be like us - To restore them to their glory, and use them again. Even the drum bearings, especially on the hotpoints - they are so easy to replace. Take the top, back, and front panels off the machine, detach the pulley wheel from the back, and slide the drum out... Manufactures reused to make washing machines with 50/50 tub, so you cant change the bearings - All to make you buy a new machine.

In my zanussi - I had to get the whole tub out of the machine to get to the bearings...

Henry


Post# 566254 , Reply# 38   1/1/2012 at 10:26 (4,349 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Hi Henry.

We have loads of shops that throw out appliances and one of so where the wm12 came from. Also, i thought i might tell you 2 things, More pics to be posted tommorrow and i may get a wm64 at the end of feb.

Bye!


Post# 566262 , Reply# 39   1/1/2012 at 10:41 (4,349 days old) by henrypeter21 ()        
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Excellent... As soon as i get my workshop sorted out, i will upload more videos onto youtube. I hope to get a machine that has a shot timer on it (Hotpoint WM63) and fit my own circuits onto it. I created a thread called "Henry's Project" and cant do much more now until I find the command for drain (Pump Out)... About the WM64, If you get it, I can gurantee that you will really enjoy using it. They were great machines and lasted well. They were known at one time to be the last decent built hotpoints until everything went downhill with the WMA Series Etc...





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Post# 566406 , Reply# 40   1/2/2012 at 04:29 (4,348 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Hi.

My camerea & pc are giving me mouse eggs now and so i cant post the pics.

Also I had a wd61 but the motor died:P


Post# 566423 , Reply# 41   1/2/2012 at 08:15 (4,348 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Ok its in the shed and doing a wash!

Post# 566452 , Reply# 42   1/2/2012 at 10:33 (4,348 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Installed in her new home!


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