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Reverse Rack Maytag Portable DW? |
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Post# 566874 , Reply# 1   1/4/2012 at 10:20 (4,488 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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Post# 566880 , Reply# 2   1/4/2012 at 10:36 (4,488 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Good cleaning yes, quirky loading and poor ability to hold really large pans etc. Also noisy and poor drying results if used on air-dry setting. It can be converted to a built in machine and overall not as reliable as a GE, WP, WP built KM or a KA of the same time period but much better overall than about any other DW of the period. Its a fun machine to experience if you haven't ever used one, but I don't think one will ever make it into my kitchen.
I do have a TOL 1988 Jenn-Air version of this DW that has been very lightly used and has a BRAND NEW complete pump module in it [ which is NLA now ] The first $350.00 gets it otherwise if a customer needs the pump I will sell the part and scrap the machine. |
Post# 566882 , Reply# 3   1/4/2012 at 10:42 (4,488 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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John - you will be able to build this machine in - once the cabinet, top, and wheels are removed, the dishwasher is standard 24-inch model.
Mark- 'reverse rack' refers to the way the older Maytag dishwasher racks were arranged. In most dishwashers plates, pans, and bowls would go in the lower rack and the glassware, cups, and more delicate items would go in the upper rack; in a Maytag of this vintage, the plates were in the upper rack and the glassware in the lower rack. That's why they are often referred to as "reverse rack"
I had a "modern" one very briefly in Ogden and it was in pretty bad shape... It had been abused and the mineral-rich well water took its toll on the machine, so I parted it out... |
Post# 566908 , Reply# 4   1/4/2012 at 12:22 (4,488 days old) by bwoods ()   |   | |
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Grab it John, before it gets away! Read the 37580 thread. Barry CLICK HERE TO GO TO bwoods's LINK |
Post# 566948 , Reply# 5   1/4/2012 at 15:51 (4,488 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)   |   | |
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Thanks for the advice/input everybody! Will check further and let you know what happens. John |
Post# 566951 , Reply# 6   1/4/2012 at 16:07 (4,488 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA)   |   | |
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I had a RR Maytag, and it was by far the best washing dishwasher I ever had. They are very loud, but if you listen,you will hear those fine jets really doing their thing. One thine you should notice if you get it, is their ability to really shine the silverware. When if first got mine, I noticed a big difference in the shine of the silverware. It looked as though it was polished. As far as pot scrubbing, I never found anything that could touch it. just my opinion.if you have good hot water, there is nothing that they won't wash.
Hugs, Lotosudz |
Post# 566963 , Reply# 7   1/4/2012 at 17:22 (4,488 days old) by RE563 (Fort Worth, Texas)   |   | |
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had two magtag rr in my time and never found loading or cleaning to be difficult. Not only was it not difficult to load, but held more than most dishwashers and could tackle odd shaped items more easily than others. I do disagree with the loundness. IIRC, they weren't any louder than any other dishwashers I heard in other peoples homes. I do miss the sound of the jets doing there thing. I always new everything was gonna come out clean.
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Post# 566998 , Reply# 9   1/4/2012 at 19:24 (4,488 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Just brought this home a little more than a week ago, for a playtime diversion and more importantly for parts to keep my WU-601 running for many years to come. It was in remarkable condition for it's age though it had been painted with what appeared to be a roller over the original harvest gold. Roger and I stripped it for parts Monday and it was on it's long journey to becoming a KIA by that afternoon when the scrap metal guy picked it up. We salvaged the nearly perfect racks, a weak spot for Maytag dishwashers all through their production, the motor and pump pulley (pump was bad and the pulley on my 601 had been bent) as well as the functioning timer. Would have saved the light socket and bulb but this model didn't have one - only the devious trickery of a red lens.
They are decent performing dishwashers but as mentioned above, need copious amounts of hot water and tend to be on the noisy side, especially the belt-drive models while draining. Portables are a bit noisier, our 1981 Maytag nearly identical to the first picture seemed like a freight train roaring along when it drained but was "tolerable" during circulation. |
Post# 567606 , Reply# 13   1/7/2012 at 10:02 (4,485 days old) by electronicontrl (Grand Rapids, MI)   |   | |
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In 1980 when I was in high school, my folks bought at Maytag WC700 dishwasher. We loved that dishwasher! It still works but is now seldom used by my dad. Since then I have either owned or used a Maytag WU482, a Jenn-Air DWU599W (presently insalled in kitchen) and a Maytag WC401. The DWU599 Jenn-Air was one of the last models to come out of the Newton, IA plant. It has the direct drive module and is quiet compared to the belt-drive models. The DWU599 was a Craigslist find for $48 and was 15 years old when installed in my kitchen. Another Craiglist find was the WC401 (from 1975) that I got for $36. It was barely used in its lifetime and had the plastic wrap still on the butcher block top! When I run that thing, it sounds exactly like the WC700 and the memories flow. MUSIC to my ears!!! The majority of the reverse racks do not have automatic water heating, which is their only drawback in my opinion. They hold a LOT and clean beautifully. CLICK HERE TO GO TO electronicontrl's LINK |
Post# 567834 , Reply# 14   1/8/2012 at 11:43 (4,484 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Barry, Michael and others for your thoughtful responses.
Both my 1987 WP and 1984 KA DWs will easily hold a 20 quart stock pot and I get decent sized cookie sheets in both at the sides of the lower rack.
As you guys mentioned the lack of automatic water heating a big negative as I am not going to run my whole houses water temp above 130 degrees just for a DW.
I don't like the silverware basket in the top rack as it sprinkles items in the lower rack when you are unloading [ these MT DWs never dried well unless you use heated dry or remember to leave the door open overnight ] I see no purpose in burning many pounds of coal every year just so my dishes will dry a little faster plus the heated drying shortens the life of the racks etc too much. Also the in door silverware basket in the WP is far easier to load as you only need open the door about three inches and drop in say a dirty spoon from countertop height.
With the HUGE cutout in the lower rack and the lack of it being able to wash items in the corners of the upper rack if big bowls are placed below it really doesn't hold as much as I can get in my WP or KA. I also don't like the fact that neither rack is flat.
I give MT credit for trying something different and this machine if used properly was a top performer. As you know I worked for MT in the 1970s and installed, servieced, and removed and scraped HUNDREDS of these DWs. And in talking to hundreds of customers about this machine I found the love of this design was far from universal. Remember it was MT that discontinued this design, not Whirlpool, not the Dept. Of Energy but consumers spoke and MT eventually listened.
I have also used several of these machines, Jon [ Jetcone ] had a TOL BD MT DW in his house on the Cape for many years and I used it many times during my stays there. It has been replaced by a standard tub SS tanked WP built DW which I think he and I both like much better overall.
In closing I think these are very interesting machines differently worthy of a collectors trust and a good machine for a collector to have in thier kitchen. But while I collect all kinds of different major appliances and I have an estimated over 200, the appliances that make it into my home and kitchen most be top performers in almost every way, including reliability. And one thing I don't like to come home to is a broken appliance and these RR DWs never achieved great reliability and were always a little more prone to leaks, which is the last thing I want from a DW.
The Jenn-Air model I have has the mechanical push button with an additional delay wash timer with its own dial on the left side of the control panel. I also have a TOL MT DW about the same age that has only been used about 6 times that will be installed at our museum.
Barry while I prefer not to scrap this DW if I use parts of it to keep another going it doesn't make much difference. I could probably arange delivery to you if if you want it. In the last three months I have seen at least 12 MT RR, 30 porcelain tub KA DWs and 20 WP BD washers and 30 MT helical drive washers and matching dryer pairs crushed, unfortunately you can't save them all.
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