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Post# 566917 1/4/2012 at 12:44 (4,489 days old) by lovestowash  (St. Petersburg, FL) |
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Post# 566918 , Reply# 1 1/4/2012 at 12:47 (4,489 days old) by lovestowash (St. Petersburg, FL) |
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We were curious... | ||
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Post# 566919 , Reply# 2 1/4/2012 at 12:51 (4,489 days old) by lovestowash (St. Petersburg, FL) |
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From one POS to another... | ||
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Post# 566920 , Reply# 3 1/4/2012 at 12:54 (4,489 days old) by lovestowash (St. Petersburg, FL) |
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Reading the lid... | ||
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Post# 566921 , Reply# 4 1/4/2012 at 12:56 (4,489 days old) by lovestowash (St. Petersburg, FL) |
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So we eagerly anticipate the rinse... | ||
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Post# 566922 , Reply# 5 1/4/2012 at 13:01 (4,489 days old) by lovestowash (St. Petersburg, FL) |
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Sometimes 6" is just not enough... | ||
| Post# 566947 , Reply# 7 1/4/2012 at 15:42 (4,489 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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| Post# 566950 , Reply# 8 1/4/2012 at 15:56 (4,489 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California) | ||
That is so ridiculous! How do they expect a water level like that to be able to rinse out clothes? All that's going to do is concentrate the detergent that's left in them and basically make it another wash cycle. Not to mention tearing up clothes in the process. I guess I'll never ever be buying a new washer and just restore older ones once I'm able. Did it at least spray rinse during either of the spin cycles?
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Post# 566958 , Reply# 9 1/4/2012 at 16:35 (4,489 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York) |
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 Wow, is this the case having a low water level rinse machine? Why didn't they just get a front loader that is capable to wash and rinse better for the same amount of water or less? Oh boy, people are in for a real treat when they find out that the home laundry industry has changed for the worse! And when is Consumers Report going to praise these machines being excellent in washing, but poor in rinsing!? | ||
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Post# 566974 , Reply# 11 1/4/2012 at 17:48 (4,489 days old) by lovestowash (St. Petersburg, FL) |
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Did it at least spray rinse during either of the spin cycles | ||
| Post# 566981 , Reply# 12 1/4/2012 at 18:15 (4,489 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California) | ||
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Post# 566986 , Reply# 13 1/4/2012 at 18:33 (4,489 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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| Post# 567003 , Reply# 14 1/4/2012 at 19:34 (4,489 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California) | ||
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Well if the manufacturers have to follow what the government says, then they should start making the tubs smaller. People are going to fill the machine thinking the water level will be higher than it is. Although it does warn you on the machine, not everyone will notice it right away. They should make the tub capacity to whatever the regulated water level should be. Otherwise, they're going to start getting a lot of complaints from customers about damaged clothes. And the rinse level should at least be where the wash level is set at. That's just stupid having it at such a low level.
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Post# 567008 , Reply# 15 1/4/2012 at 19:49 (4,489 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Terry told me about this new Roper, good to see the pictures and the instruction graphics don't lie! This machine will be out of production by March 2012 (?) but I'll bet that you don't get much more from the new belt-drive version unless you select "softener rinse" option, even then I'm not sure you'd get a "full" fill. Roger and I counted not one conventional full-fill top load washer on the sales floor at Nebraska Furniture Mart on New Years day. Not one. They're gone. Only a scant few top-load models anyway, front loaders are taking the lead it seems.
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| Post# 567027 , Reply# 16 1/4/2012 at 21:36 (4,489 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California) | ||
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That sucks to hear Gan. Geez what is it with products these days. I thought the future was supposed to bring better manufacturing. I miss the days of solid metal appliances that could take a beating and keep running. And cars made of steel with big chrome bumpers instead of everything plastic. Nothing lasts like it used to, yet costs so much more.
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Post# 567035 , Reply# 17 1/4/2012 at 22:22 (4,489 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Energy Savings! | ||
| Post# 567038 , Reply# 19 1/4/2012 at 22:56 (4,489 days old) by supersurgilator (Indiana) | ||
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Forgot to mention, what kind of damage is this doing to the machine? Imagine it trying to agitate a full load with no water? Can't see that being very good on the workings of the machine. | ||
| Post# 567048 , Reply# 20 1/5/2012 at 01:10 (4,489 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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Some clever rewiring could make this nasty thing use the same water level for rinse it does for wash. But what the devil, you buy a new washer and the first thing you have to do to make it work right is redesign it?
Isn't Roper another WCI brand? For the most part WCI doesn't give a shatner what they do. | ||
| Post# 567051 , Reply# 21 1/5/2012 at 01:39 (4,489 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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Not at all Roper is a Whirlpool brand, marketed on the lower end of things. This "washer" doesn't contradict that. Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
| Post# 567063 , Reply# 24 1/5/2012 at 05:30 (4,489 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
Really?? | ||
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Post# 567067 , Reply# 25 1/5/2012 at 05:54 (4,489 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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I guess you could start it back to the wash portion of the cycle to get a full fill, let it agitate for three minutes then let it drain and spin. Certainly the machine can't stop you from doing that. | ||
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Post# 567069 , Reply# 26 1/5/2012 at 06:06 (4,489 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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Tomturbomatic has it-go back to the wash cycle manually-then let the washer refill-and you can sort of select the rinse temp! | ||
| Post# 567088 , Reply# 28 1/5/2012 at 07:50 (4,489 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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You know, there are people that will never notice this! Is this machine a buzz buzz electronic like GE or a direct drive? thanks, I am stunned. alr | ||
| Post# 567089 , Reply# 29 1/5/2012 at 07:52 (4,489 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
New Ropers | ||
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Post# 567092 , Reply# 30 1/5/2012 at 08:16 (4,488 days old) by lovestowash (St. Petersburg, FL) |
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Coldspot... Advise your Sister to send the machine back... I would be surprised that Lowe's would attempt rewiring the preset rinse level, and that sounds like the only remedy... A friend here in Atlanta purchased the same machine a few months ago... Upon discovering the rinse cycle, Lowe's delivered a replacement machine (not sure of the brand) the next week with no problem... And Tom, that's exactly what we did on subsequent loads... Stopped the machine after the first spin, reset to "wash", and achieved as close to a real "rinse" as possible, stopping again after the first spin... Subjecting your clothes to the rinse cycle is tantamount to death... Wonder how many owners of this machine, as well as the comparable Admiral, Estate, and Inglis models, don't realize how the rinse works... And I think the entry level price makes this one of Lowe's best sellers...
George
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| Post# 567120 , Reply# 31 1/5/2012 at 11:19 (4,488 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
This isn't just sad it is alarming. Clothing WILL get ruined. The oldest directions in the land insist on sufficient water in top loaders that will allow the load to circulate freely to prevent damage to clothing. How can they get away with this? How long will it take non-washer people to realize that their machine is destroying their wardrobe and their linens. Shouldn't we alert the media? What am I missing here? This is really crazy. Have we really come to this? W H I R L P O O L is making a machine that destroys clothing? Give me the gas pipe. | ||
| Post# 567128 , Reply# 32 1/5/2012 at 12:58 (4,488 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Lowes I wasn't necessarily suggesting that Lowes attempt the rewire or anything like that. More of a solution for washer folks that may end up with one of these machines and like to tinker. It's a sad ending to the DD machines, these Ropers and the like Inglis and Estate models were a very good value. The 2.5 and later 3.2 cu. ft. Roper is a good, simple machine, and I don't really like the new BD machines that are coming out. The real issue is, like mentioned earlier, the possible clothes damage. DD machines are not particularly kind to garments sometimes with a full load when overloaded, let alone with 1/3 the water. It's a cheap cop-out to get their water usage down since the US is all desert now and there apparently is not enough water to wash clothes properly. I mean they're killing T/L machines soon enough anyway why bother with this song and dance?
It really bothers me, I'd take a new Frigidaire T/L over this...
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| Post# 567129 , Reply# 33 1/5/2012 at 13:16 (4,488 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Rinse Agitate Time | ||
| Post# 567137 , Reply# 34 1/5/2012 at 14:21 (4,488 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
Thats the standard for Top load washers today
Its sad to say but for washers i would say that its the standard today and the only thing that comes into my mind is if we went a decent washer in a vacation home it would be to buy a vaction home and place a washer dryer that we chose usaly the appliances in a rental vacation home are chosen by the staff of the rental agency and i know for a fact that i have use for my family a roper washer in a rental home but i think it was a 2009 model before the change in water normes for rinse and it wash and rinse pretty well. This is just my 2 cents here in this thread.
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Post# 567146 , Reply# 36 1/5/2012 at 15:41 (4,488 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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W H I R L P O O L is making a machine that destroys clothing | ||
| Post# 567153 , Reply# 37 1/5/2012 at 16:47 (4,488 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia) | ||
OMG! Are they kidding?
This is just my oppinion but I think top loaders were alway a bit hursher with clothing because of the agitator, but doing it almost without water is like putting the laundry in a blender! I would never be that towel in this Roper washer. The rinse water level is just scary! Poor washing :( Ingemar | ||
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Post# 567157 , Reply# 38 1/5/2012 at 17:07 (4,488 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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Has WP completely lost it? | ||
| Post# 567164 , Reply# 39 1/5/2012 at 18:24 (4,488 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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After seeing this post i am seeing things clearer now | ||
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Post# 567204 , Reply# 40 1/5/2012 at 21:55 (4,488 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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2011 energy compliant washer
This design tweak on the infamous DD washer owes its thanks to the U.S. energy standards set fourth for 2011.
The previous 2009/2010 Estate, Admiral, Inglis, and yes Roper machines, had four old-fashioned water levels. The same models were re-tweaked with the modified 3-level settings using a pressure switch that doesn't fully fill the tub for wash. Its funny, but I've heard that many consumers complain about these, and some in fact write about splashy low water rinses in online reviews, but are too stupid to see the color printed instruction under the lid, either when they buy the machine or when it is in service. The U.S. government says a washer should use only a certain number of gallons, etc and this is how WP made the low-end DD machines comply. Without these the company fails its energy complaince (and tax status). There are a couple simple solutions, one of which WP does not want us to know about apparently. FIRST, the second pressure switch (yes Tim, there is a second pressure switch for the rinse, which is buried in the console) is a two setting switch, but the shaft for turning it is not long enough to protrude into the console. The switch can simply be re-set to the high setting and the machine will fill to high for ALL rinses. SOMEONE TRY THAT!!! Secondly, I've heard that a jumper wire or set of jumpers is possible at the timer quick connect block. I have no proof of this however as I have not seen the wiring harness, but it seems reasonable. My solution, and I actually considered buying an Admiral when Home Depot had them on sale for $249 recently, is to disconnect the rinse switch and jump the wiring over to the wash switch, which would give variable rinses. Couple my solution with a new pressure switch from 2009's Whirlpool WTW5100XQ and you'd have a properly filled 3-level machine again. I still say it would be fun to buy one of these and modify it into a PROPER washer. Gordon | ||
| Post# 567237 , Reply# 41 1/6/2012 at 01:13 (4,488 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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WE are capable of rewiring the thing to make it work acceptably. But its target buyers aren't.
Without saying so, is the government trying to force everyone into frontloaders? Because even casual users find this 1/3rd rinse fill to be unacceptable nonsense. I prefer frontloaders, proof they don't eat clothes like a toploader does (my t-shirts last twice as long as with my Maytag). But that doesn't make it right for the government to force people to buy something they don't want. I also conserve most everything and always have, even before it became "hip" to. But I by-gawd want the detergent out of my clothes and off my dishes and if it takes another dozen gallons so be it. | ||
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Post# 567278 , Reply# 42 1/6/2012 at 06:54 (4,488 days old) by lovestowash (St. Petersburg, FL) |
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Malcolm... | ||
| Post# 567286 , Reply# 43 1/6/2012 at 07:28 (4,488 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Thanks | ||
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Post# 567292 , Reply# 44 1/6/2012 at 08:00 (4,487 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Coldspot
tell your sister to take the machine itself, back to Lowes, and PARK it right along the doorway into the store, blocking the doors from closing, or allowing people to get in........ trust me you will get a crowd......if they threaten to call the Police, threaten back to call the news station....... I did this with BestBuy in 1999........PARKED the Neptune in their doorway......and I had FOX News on the phone.....blocking the entrance......had all paperwork from the repair guys.....the Cops wouldn't interfere, as long as the Exit was available for Fire Safety..... 20 Minutes later, they loaded a new machine in my truck!!! sometimes you have to go to extremes! | ||
| Post# 567294 , Reply# 45 1/6/2012 at 08:06 (4,487 days old) by DirectDriveDave () | ||
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I seriously hope these regulations backfire some day... | ||
| Post# 567316 , Reply# 46 1/6/2012 at 09:30 (4,487 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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I mean.....Doesn't it seem like if you're going to have a washer that uses little water like that that it would be in the wash portion for more concentrated detergent & it would fill higher for rinse? Sad that they did this but if they're going to do this, it seems to me it should be the other way around.
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| Post# 567358 , Reply# 47 1/6/2012 at 12:08 (4,487 days old) by spinmon (st. charles mo ) | ||
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And THIS is the way Gov/EPA/ETC are 'fixing' ALL our 'problems. yippee.... | ||
| Post# 567361 , Reply# 48 1/6/2012 at 12:32 (4,487 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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i just have to step in
I think that you need to live with it low water usage washing machine is the norm today and i can also think that with all the new tech in front loading washers i can estimate that by the end of 2013 2014 tops that toploading washers will no longer be sold in department stores they may still be avalable but they will be avalable as special order items and coldspot i would suggest that you have your sister return her defective washer and get a refund for her purchuse and have her try to find a 1990 or earlier vintage washer where she would not have to worry about the rinse water level and also have your sister talk direcly with the store manager not the sale clerk that sold her the machine and have your sister write a complaint letter to the store as well that she is not satisfy with the service and maybe you should suggest to yur sister that she buys a speed queen washer but not in the store where she would return her defective washer but in another store. well this is my 2 cents in this thread as well just by seeing this i can also say that this is making me think more as well.
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Post# 567396 , Reply# 49 1/6/2012 at 14:07 (4,487 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Generally speaking (a very broad generalization), we Americans are a very selfish and wasteful lot. We’ve been so spoiled for so long because EVERYTHING has been so plentiful and inexpensive, we have become complacent. "I'm here for me, now, because I can and don’t really care what happens to the rest of the world" kind of thinking. I have to admit I’ve been guilty of this thinking too at times.
So, I don’t think it’s totally a bad thing the government is trying to protect us from ourselves. HOWEVER…. the Feds have gone WAY too far overboard with all these regulation on EVERYTHING. I mean it’s just ABSURD how they’re forcing manufacturers to cut water usage on all washing machines (and dishwashers). Many have complained about the new front loaders washing in only “a cup of water” and now some of these top loaders rinsing in just 1 gallon of water? What the hell?!?
I cannot believe WP has done that with this machine (well I guess I can with the reasons Gordon outlined above). I hope it’s limited to the lower end Roper line! I would be SO completely pissed at finding poorly rinsed AND damaged clothes after washing them in a machine like this! WOW!
OK, here’s a conspiracy theory for you: Perhaps the clothing manufacturers are in cahoots with WP to cause premature ware and clothing failure so they can sell more clothing! HA! ;-)
Kevin
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Post# 567405 , Reply# 50 1/6/2012 at 15:18 (4,487 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Kevin -
Virtually ALL the DDs in production are made this way now, but I believe there is only one or two Amana models, one Admiral, one Roper, one Inglis, and one Estate left. All but the higher-end Amana are essentially identical. There may be one or two builder's model Kenmore DDs left as well (we can't get them at Sears retail stores or online but they sometimes show up in Sears Outlets) but because these are Kenmore and not a WP company product, the low rinse fill may not apply to those. If you recall, DDs were supposed to end production in 2010. Now that we're in 2012, this is what is left. The deep fill belt-drive top loaders that WP builds are not fill-challenged, but I believe all the WPs have that fabric softener switch that does a spin-rinse only unless the user switches the knob saying they used softener. If I had one of those it would always be "on". This softener yes/no switch debuted on DDs - why it didn't continue I can't say. | ||
| Post# 567733 , Reply# 53 1/7/2012 at 22:05 (4,486 days old) by toploader1984 () | ||
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roper martin, i just about rolled off my chair when i read about you putting the maytag neptune right in front of the door at best buy!!!!! that is HALARIOUS! | ||
| Post# 567743 , Reply# 54 1/8/2012 at 00:00 (4,486 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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| Post# 567764 , Reply# 56 1/8/2012 at 03:12 (4,486 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Resource Saver | ||
| Post# 567777 , Reply# 57 1/8/2012 at 05:06 (4,486 days old) by qualin (Canada) | ||
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Hey Malcolm... How did those work? | ||
| Post# 567806 , Reply# 58 1/8/2012 at 09:55 (4,485 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Deep Fill | ||
| Post# 567815 , Reply# 59 1/8/2012 at 10:14 (4,485 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Estate at Fry's
I saw this machine on the sales floor at Fry's yesterday. It was stickered at $278. I sat next to a Haier top loading turbo drum machine that was priced under $300 and probably a better choice for the money.
I also overheard a sale person pushing the Samsung top loader as the best top loading machine for the money. I almost laughed out loud. I suppose it is the best for the money considering the offerings on their sales floor. Malcolm | ||
| Post# 569152 , Reply# 60 1/15/2012 at 04:54 (4,479 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi) | ||
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They should call this machine the Ripper! | ||
| Post# 569166 , Reply# 61 1/15/2012 at 07:20 (4,479 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Or... | ||
| Post# 569211 , Reply# 63 1/15/2012 at 10:40 (4,478 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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DD Dependability
I don't know about the dependability long term of the Whirlpool DD machines, but I will say that it is probably one of the best designed top load washers I have ever encountered as far as being able to repair. I think their ultimate goal was to build a machine that the homeowner could repair. Unfortunately, the average homeowner would usually drag the old machine to the curb and buy a new one.
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Post# 569347 , Reply# 64 1/15/2012 at 18:39 (4,478 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Believe me.....I was pissed at this point.......BestBuy's service S U C K 's...putting it politely......
this was the last straw after 5 months of service calls, 2 per week, of which most times no one showed up, and when they did, the machine did less and less of its operation until they could no longer power it up!....and they gave up and left.....this was the first 3000 series.....at this time I did not have any spare sets for backup......I usualy found machines, fixed them, and then sold them.....after this I kept a spare or two.....thanks to AW...I now have a collection....haha sorry for jumping the subject of this thread....... at the site where we keep our camper, theres a laundromat, full of whirlpools, of which I had to play, 2 water level selections, suprising for a coin machine, but the highest level for both was 1/3rd level.......and no one paid attention.....they loaded, pushed in the coins and left....later onto the dryers.....this is a probable reason for manufacturers to push something like this, most people won't notice or care......until a rash starts, and they won't ever suspect its the "washer" and not the detergent! | ||
| Post# 569359 , Reply# 65 1/15/2012 at 19:34 (4,478 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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There's the TROUBLE! | ||
| Post# 569363 , Reply# 66 1/15/2012 at 20:05 (4,478 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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my tough on this
well here is my toughts on this low rinse roper machine what whirlpool should do is have if the first rinse is low level they should have an extra rinse option for a full water level rinse or a switch that says normal rinse (chosen water level for main wash) if there is no fabric sofner dispenser or fabric softner on off switch and if you look at this roper washe i do not know the year but this is what a true rise washer should be in my toughs unlike those low rinse fill models?
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| Post# 569420 , Reply# 67 1/15/2012 at 22:44 (4,478 days old) by DirectDriveDave () | ||
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DDs are VERY reliable. Our 1990 machine has only had agitator dogs and just recently, the drain pump replaced in (soon to be) 22 years. and from 1991 to late 2000, it went through 6 people in one house. | ||
| Post# 569790 , Reply# 68 1/17/2012 at 23:19 (4,476 days old) by Aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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Post# 569811 , Reply# 69 1/18/2012 at 22:46 (4,475 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 569813 , Reply# 70 1/18/2012 at 22:49 (4,475 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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| Post# 569895 , Reply# 71 1/19/2012 at 10:22 (4,474 days old) by westie2 () | ||
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Toggleswitch/Steve
Your sign!!!
This made my day. LOL | ||
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Post# 569918 , Reply# 72 1/19/2012 at 12:12 (4,474 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Toggles | ||
| Post# 569947 , Reply# 73 1/19/2012 at 13:56 (4,474 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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my tough on the last post
If that commercial speed queen is in an appartment building it is the responsebilaty to eather a) replace the washer if it did its time or b) renovate each appartment to have hookups for your persernel washer dryer in each appartment depending on rules for each appartment buildings
CLICK HERE TO GO TO pierreandreply4's LINK | ||
| Post# 569973 , Reply# 74 1/19/2012 at 16:15 (4,474 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Apartment Building Washers ...or c) not do anything like most will building supers will do until the machine no longer works. It uses much less water this way, and really your clean laundry is not their concern in the end. They make money off the machine for the convenience, you no likey you go elsewhere. Having to use dank machines in a basement like this makes me really value my own washing machine, even when I got my 1st little Hoover I realized how much nicer it was to have than the complex's machines. Frat boys would commonly vandalize the machines and what not, people have even thrown up in them. Never again.
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Post# 571909 , Reply# 78 1/28/2012 at 01:11 (4,466 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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About the Resource Savers The early ones worked as described with recirculation periods, but the later models eliminated the recirculation valve and just "rinsed" with spin sprays unless you opted for a deep rinse for softener. | ||
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Post# 571992 , Reply# 79 1/28/2012 at 14:31 (4,465 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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BROKEN DRIVE CUPPLERS ON DD WASHERS Again the Drive couplers are not designed to break if the washer is overloaded. That said as a service man I have seen many cases where a very large load did cause an OLD or Worn coupler to break. The same thing happens with old worn belts on dryers and other appliances, when someone puts in a extra large load it snaps. But believe me WP is not selling a washer that will not easily make it through the 1 year parts and labor warranty. Just one warranty call would wipe out the profit on three basic DD washers. | ||
| Post# 572049 , Reply# 80 1/28/2012 at 20:39 (4,465 days old) by supersurgilator (Indiana) | ||
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I agree, having grown up with a DD machine, I've washed many heavy overloaded loads and never had a coupler break yet. | ||
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Post# 1169508 , Reply# 81 1/14/2023 at 22:16 (461 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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low level wash and rinse Not meaning to revive this thread again, but the commercial Maytags with the load size selector on my dorm do the same thing. They always short change how much water is used on the large setting. Most students don't notice! | ||
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Post# 1169554 , Reply# 82 1/15/2023 at 09:31 (460 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1169611 , Reply# 83 1/15/2023 at 17:10 (460 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Post# 1169666 , Reply# 84 1/15/2023 at 23:23 (460 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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low level wash and rinse The water level never reaches the full level during wash or rinse. Both the wash and rinse is the same. There are no spray rinses to make matters worse. | ||
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Post# 1169667 , Reply# 85 1/15/2023 at 23:25 (460 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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and to top it off... The maintenance people don't know or care to know what I am talking about! The dryers are just as bad, but that's another story. They suck at drying. I'll leave it at that. | ||
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Post# 1169780 , Reply# 86 1/17/2023 at 09:34 (458 days old) by lovestowash (St. Petersburg, FL) |
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WOW! Terry Lattz! | ||
| Post# 1169782 , Reply# 87 1/17/2023 at 10:07 (458 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan) | ||
Yes I know exactly what you’re talking about! We have a late 2000s Admiral direct drive at my senior living complex, it’s the last direct drive we have there the rest are all commercial speed queens. Anyways, this has that stupid auto regulated low rinse to “conserve water” 🙄 beats the heck out of the clothes due to filling to only a small load when set to medium or large. You can audibly hear how hard The transmission is working to try and agitate and rinse a full large load on a small load size setting it’s absolutely ridiculous it’s too much stress for the machine and totally unlogical. This admiral is in really rough shape, I don’t imagine it’ll last much longer.
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Post# 1169797 , Reply# 89 1/17/2023 at 12:55 (458 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1169803 , Reply# 90 1/17/2023 at 15:29 (458 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 1169834 , Reply# 91 1/18/2023 at 10:22 (457 days old) by Golittlesport (California) | ||
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Post# 1169840 , Reply# 92 1/18/2023 at 13:41 (457 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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revival reason The reson why I revived is thread is because nothing has changed. In fact, they've only seem to get worse. Low water washing and rinsing in addition to the low intermediate spin after wash and before rinse is insanity to me. | ||
| Post# 1169843 , Reply# 93 1/18/2023 at 14:06 (457 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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| Post# 1169845 , Reply# 94 1/18/2023 at 15:09 (457 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1169847 , Reply# 95 1/18/2023 at 15:35 (457 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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