Thread Number: 3863
Where are the dryers??? |
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Post# 92318 , Reply# 1   11/4/2005 at 21:14 (6,738 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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I believe the power/speed/capacity of Euro dryers is limited because they plug into a standard (European) outlet and are roughly 2,500 watts. (13 or 15 amps?) "plug-n-play" Ours here would only be able to go to 1,600 watts on a standard American 110v plug(15amps) So we have 220 volt 30 amp lines (circuits) for about 50 years now for out large electric dryers, which heat with 5,200 watts. I beliwve another factor may be most of this country has wooden homes where pulling an electircal cable is easy. In a typical Euro concrete home, this is more difficult. It appears manufacturers across the pond realize few would be able to run a heavy-duty 30 amp line and perhaps even a 100mm (4 inch) vent. Make any sense? |
Post# 92347 , Reply# 2   11/5/2005 at 01:06 (6,738 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Room to accomodate American sized washer/driers/fridges and stoves was/is the biggest stumbling block. The "average" american house has either a basement and/or a fairly large kitchen and/or a laundry room if no basement. Euro homes never did and evolved using more space efficient designs, and in many cases just did without. Few of my relatives in the UK during the 60's/70's even owned a washer/dryer, all had counter height fridges. Following the laws of physics, opposites attract and we find people over here coveting and paying handsomely for Euro design makes now while over there they pay dearly for American design/size.
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Post# 92349 , Reply# 3   11/5/2005 at 01:08 (6,738 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Post# 92352 , Reply# 4   11/5/2005 at 01:22 (6,738 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 92357 , Reply# 6   11/5/2005 at 04:04 (6,738 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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I couldn't agree with you more!! Where are the dryers?! Whirlpool sells the Dreamspace in the UK, so why not on the European continent? LG and Bosch sell their 10kg washers overhere, but no dryer. And the power? You could put in a 30Amps line. Or Whirlpool could put in a smaller heating element, the dryer would be a bit slower but with a 3300 Watts or so not really slow. And what about gas dryers? Huebsch is the only company that sells American sized gas dryers in Holland. Ofcourse no matching washer... I attached a picture of the Whirlpool Dreamspace available in England. The link goes to the Huebsch website. CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK |
Post# 92371 , Reply# 8   11/5/2005 at 08:00 (6,738 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)   |   | |
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The good thing about small washers is you get to use them more often :-), especially ones that have alot of splash action :-D |
Post# 92391 , Reply# 11   11/5/2005 at 13:40 (6,738 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 92447 , Reply# 13   11/6/2005 at 04:07 (6,737 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 92482 , Reply# 14   11/6/2005 at 09:06 (6,737 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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From Appliance Magazine 11/05, Annual Portrait of the European Appliance Industry: Western European Product Saturation (% of households) 2004 Automatic washers: 96% Tumble Dryers: 31% Dishwashers: 42% Microwave Ovens: 62% Vacuum Cleaners: 89% 2004 Market Share by brand: AB Electrolux 16.9% Bosch/Siemens 15.1 Indesit (formerly Merloni) 14.2 Whirlpool 9.4 Koc Group 5.7 Candy 3.4 Others 35.3 |
Post# 92560 , Reply# 15   11/6/2005 at 18:05 (6,737 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 92564 , Reply# 16   11/6/2005 at 18:30 (6,737 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 92587 , Reply# 17   11/6/2005 at 22:17 (6,736 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 92593 , Reply# 18   11/6/2005 at 22:47 (6,736 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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For some reason that's not clear to me, CPL/AEP has a lower rate (but probably not *that* much lower) for households that are all-electric, with a water heater of 40 gals (or more). Granny doesn't qualify for either rate tier reduction, with a 30 gal water heater, natural gas range and no electric/central HVAC.
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Post# 92606 , Reply# 19   11/7/2005 at 00:13 (6,736 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 92623 , Reply# 20   11/7/2005 at 06:46 (6,736 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 92630 , Reply# 22   11/7/2005 at 07:11 (6,736 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 92652 , Reply# 24   11/7/2005 at 10:56 (6,736 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 92655 , Reply# 25   11/7/2005 at 11:05 (6,736 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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