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Post# 577754   2/23/2012 at 02:56 (4,438 days old) by Pedro (London)        

Hi guys, I'm after some advice, the washer i have at the moment is needing to be replaced (9 year old Indesit). I've been looking for a while at the LG Steam washers and had my mind pretty much set on getting one of them however whilst looking in John Lewis yesterday i saw the AEG Protex Plus with steam function right next to the LG and i was quite impressed with them. Very sturdy, smart and the benefit of JL means you can power up the washers and have a play with the features. Trouble is, i'm now torn between the AEG and the LG.

Have you guys had any experience of the AEG's? The crucial things i'm looking for is large capacity (8kg+), steam function and most importantly quietness (the open plan design of the house means the washer is about 10ft away from the living room/TV and this is one of the main issues with the Indesit because it is SO loud)

I noticed Darren's parents had the 7kg set but the thread had dropped off so i couldn't comment on it and wondered how they were holding up?



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Post# 577755 , Reply# 1   2/23/2012 at 03:43 (4,438 days old) by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        

Pedro I had an LG direct drive washer which was anything but quiet, and that was in an `open plan' living area. It was sold on ebay after a year. Noise used to drive my wife and I mad. Changed it for a bog standard Bosch which we still have and the noise was better.

Confusing, isn't it? Well, despite the LG having an inverter motor (so quieter than the Bosch one) this is by no means the only factor in the equation. It had a recirculating pump which was quite noisy, and would cycle on and off throughout the wash. I will not have another machine with one of these. Pretty but pointless, and another unneccesary `noise'. The main drain pump, also noisier than Bosch,also cycled on an off throughout the spins. Each time it did so the kitchen sink `belched' loudly (grr). The fill valve was hissy and crude, the water pipes in the house also banging from somewhere as this shut off. Although the motor was quiet, at the start of tumbles it always made a weird metallic type sound. This sounds like a fault but it's not, I've observed other LGs do the same thing. Aspects of the LG build were flimsy, especially the detergent drawer - the whole thing only kept in by a raised lug on top of the syphon assembly on the FS dispenser. Unfortunately this piece of plastic was too flexible, so only on rare occasions would the drawer stop at the right moment, many a time I ended up with wet feet as the whole drawer came out in my hand......

Machines change over time and from I have seen on here things MUST have improved with LG as I can't see any of our discerning members tolerating the above.

Just wanted to give you my thoughts. I haven't researched the AEG, though it looks a fine machine. Have you considered the Bosch equivalent - the 8kg one with the inverter motor? They can be had for around £400 I think. Given the cheapest Miele is several hundred pounds more, and I suspect noisier (not desputing overall build would be better) this would seem a reasonable purchase. Purely based on my experience, this will probably be my next move :-)

Post# 577756 , Reply# 2   2/23/2012 at 04:10 (4,438 days old) by Pedro (London)        

Hi Nick, thanks for your response :)

I did notice the pretty flimsy detergent drawer on the LG, there was a lot of 'give' and it didn't feel very sturdy so i'm guessing they may have kept the same design as you mentioned. I've watched many vids on YouTube of the LG machines and i noticed the pump noise and the recirculation spray noise which i wondered whether it may become annoying after a time. I know the AEG will be near silent when washing but i'm not sure about spinning.

I'm very methodical when it comes to making purchases like this and i want to make sure i know all the facts before i buy, the trouble is i've never considered AEG before and so know very little about them but from what i've seen thus far it seems to be winning.

A bad point for both machines though is the fact they have two-layered tinted door glass so not great for observing the cycle (however i'll happily suffer this if it means i'm getting a decent machine)

Post# 577821 , Reply# 3   2/23/2012 at 11:38 (4,438 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Doesn't the new Energy Label also show noise emission? Here it does.

I checked some specs and most silent washers are around 50 dB for washing and 70 to 75 dB for spinning. FWIW, our consumer magazine rated the B/S/H machines with that Eco Silence Drive as the quietest, I think. On the other hand, they dedicated a full paragraph to the LG F1480QDS as they though it was pretty noisy - despite the sticker with a sleeping baby on the washer's top.

Post# 577826 , Reply# 4   2/23/2012 at 12:05 (4,438 days old) by donprohel (I live in Munich - Germany, but I am Italian)        
Experience with AEG

 I have a L84950 since 2 years: extremely silent when washing, a bit of noise vibrations when spinning at 1400 rpm. No issue or repair.

Not sure this helps, but an AEG diswasher (badged Electrolux ESI682) lasted ten years with only a minor repair (a good screw fixed it) and was scrapped still perfectly working. An Electrolux fridge-freezer is still going strong after ten years, no repair ever needed (knock on wood).



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Post# 577837 , Reply# 5   2/23/2012 at 13:14 (4,438 days old) by boschlover1997 ()        
LG AEG BOSCH

 Hey Pedro,
i know a few people with a newer LG's and they are ace! Nick, you probably did just have bad luck- but i agree with everything your saying about the bosch. Our BOL Bosch dishwasher in amazing! Its just as good as our old Hotpoint (Bosch made) lasted 14 years!

Pedro, you say your worried about the noise on the AEG spin- my grandparents have an older AEG (2007) (check my channel) and it just has a standard brush motor, and in the spin cycle- bearing in mind it's in an echoey tiled room, you can whisper over it!
Hope this helps,
Regards, George

Post# 577840 , Reply# 6   2/23/2012 at 13:33 (4,438 days old) by splittub (Europe)        

Don't know whether you care about this or not, but as far as I can tell (see my link) the AEG machine has a welded/sealed outer tub. That means that if the bearings fail, or if for some reason you need to split the tub to access something stuck in there, then you're out of luck. Instead of changing the bearings you would have to change the outer tub + inner drum as a complete unit.

But apart from that the AEG might be a nice machine. Don't know anything about the LG and whether it has a welded outer tub.

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Post# 577845 , Reply# 7   2/23/2012 at 14:03 (4,438 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Ok I can help you here!

Having owned an LG Steam washer & My parents owning a the AEG 7kg protex washer (Which i am going to go use tomorrow as I'm watching there house while on holiday! hehe!)

The LG is a fine machine. It has and currently still does wash for my children and is still in possession of my ex fiancee...It was well built, the wash & rinse performance was excellent the extremely powerful jet combined with the steam function was unbelivable. I never had to rewash my then newly born (2 today!!) son's clothes or his 3 year old brother's clothes again and it was very quiet.

Nick there was a huge increase in quality from your model to my range!

I'd snap your arm off if you offered me another one!

AEG: So far so good. Quiet...moves about abit on spin though.

It like my hotpoint is very good with it's fuzzy logic and does cut the cycle times dramatically if it feels necessary.

The paddles do shower the load really well. It is silent on wash & very quiet on spin!! I'd certainly consider the 8kg too.

So my opinion may not help rereading this. You would get a cracking machine either way.

The only thing that would worry me is the evident drop in build quality by electrolux of late. Even though your paying £700+ alot of that is for the features. Though you do get a 5 year warranty with those I think.

Good luck on your choice and let us know of course :D

Darren

Post# 577910 , Reply# 8   2/24/2012 at 08:48 (4,437 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

As far as I am aware, The AEG Steam function is simply 2 short cycles designed for refreshing. With The LG, you also have the option to be more hygienic with using steam in the wash, whereas AEG you can't do this (at the moment, though I think AEG may introduce it in future. The links the AEG manual.
I do like the AEG though, especially how you can add upto 5 extra rinses, and also without extra rinse or any other option, you can reduce a cottons 40 wash down to around 48 minutes with the time save option, (Similar to the Electrolux professional wascator machines).
Other observations:
LG - 2 year Parts & Labour
AEG - 5 years Parts & Labour

A brand I am currently liking at the minute is Panasonic, they have 6 years Parts & Labour - though unfortuantly not steam.
Siemens also strike me - 5 years Parts & Labour, and also Quickwash, but again no steam. Both brands are also super silent.

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Post# 577930 , Reply# 9   2/24/2012 at 12:49 (4,437 days old) by Logixx (Germany)        

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Oh yes, Panasonics are also really quiet. And some have this cool five-spray-system - looks like a dishwasher in there when the jets are on.

Post# 577956 , Reply# 10   2/24/2012 at 14:44 (4,437 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Post# 578079 , Reply# 11   2/25/2012 at 08:11 (4,436 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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I'm using my mums AEG today as I'm looking after there house while there away on holiday.

I did a full load of towels. They've used a lot of LG"isms" on this new range. The initial tumbles are like the scrubbing motion except it stops rather than toos and fros. then goes onto long progressive tumbles.

The spin is almost identical to an lg. Slow steady spin about 200rpm then it clears the pump and flys up to speed. Exactly like my LG did.

Standard cotton rinses hit the rim of the drum and are the same tumble speed as the wash!

Darren

Post# 578086 , Reply# 12   2/25/2012 at 08:22 (4,436 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

It looks like Panasonic do Jet dancing too!
I do like the AEG Protex machines, and the drum looks amazing after seeing it in the shop, seems more solid than the LG too.

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Post# 578104 , Reply# 13   2/25/2012 at 09:08 (4,436 days old) by Pedro (London)        

I'm pretty much sold that it's going to be an AEG. I'm seriously considering the 9kg model now too, as soon as the funds are in place i shall be purchasing.

Darren, now that you've used one, what do you think of the AEG's?

Post# 578613 , Reply# 14   2/27/2012 at 07:17 (4,434 days old) by stevefromsydney (London)        

Hey Pedro,

I purchased the Protex 1600 spin for my folks a month ago. It's a fantastic machine. Very quiet, even on top spin. The Optisense works really well and depending on the size of the load a cottons wash, which starts out at 2.42 drops to anywhere between 1.40 and 50 mins. Water levels are good, and the spray works well. It's built like a tank and we got a 5 year parts and labour warranty with it from John Lewis.

I have the older L16830 Washer dryer and the only thing they seemed to have omitted on these newer models is the different wash speed rhythms that mine does.

If you have any questions about these machines you'd like to know before you buy let me know.

Post# 579053 , Reply# 15   2/28/2012 at 14:32 (4,433 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Agree with everything Steve says.

I did a load of towels and it washed very well. I think the jetsystem would make it 10x better but the old man didn't wanna spend anymore as he's doing a big extension at the same time.

Exceptionally quiet too!

Darren

Post# 579062 , Reply# 16   2/28/2012 at 15:14 (4,433 days old) by stevefromsydney (London)        

Hey Darren,

Hope all's good. Drop me an email mate.

Steve

Post# 579064 , Reply# 17   2/28/2012 at 15:20 (4,433 days old) by splittub (Europe)        

I really want to like these washing machines, and for the most part I do.

But why, oh why, did Electrolux opt for *sealed* outer tubs on these machines even on the high-end models? It just makes no sense, and to me that would be the ultimate deal-breaker - I wouldn't purchase any AEG Protex machine, even though a part of me really would like to have one (and until I found out about the sealed tubs, I did indeed regret not buying one).

Post# 579083 , Reply# 18   2/28/2012 at 16:50 (4,433 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        

That Panasonic on the Youtube videos is not a UK machine, so it would be prudent to be pessimistic about the technologies bound for the UK market.

Post# 580490 , Reply# 19   3/5/2012 at 11:34 (4,427 days old) by freshlinen (south africa)        
new aeg protex range

 hi guys maturasigma

will anybody agree with me that since aeg lavamats are no longer made in germany we can kiss the sturdy tough machines goodbye especially the drum suspension?

i am more into miele washing machines now.my last aeg is the model that is design like an ASKO but with AEG LOGO on it.

Lavalogic is also not that good?What happened to AEG Washing machines from Germany.My heart is sore..............

Please feedback all old AEG lovers out here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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