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Maytag Commercial MAT15MNAWW
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Post# 578078   2/25/2012 at 08:11 (3,936 days old) by bingwsguy (Binghamton NY)        

Does anyone have an opinion of or experience with this machine? This would be my choice of top loader.

Post# 578291 , Reply# 1   2/26/2012 at 03:00 (3,935 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

Where is it being used?

Post# 578411 , Reply# 2   2/26/2012 at 12:06 (3,935 days old) by 300C (Jonesboro, GA)        
I've Read Up on the Machine

I've never used one, but it caught my attention, and I read some reviews and looked at the parts diagram. The reviews are universally good (much better than the Whirlpool GCAM* machines).

Things I liked:

1) Single-piece agitator
2) Simple controls (no confusion on what they do)
3) Has enough features (load-size selection and multiple wash/spin speed options)
4) All mechanical controls

To elaborate on what I liked about the controls: there is a selector for fabric type that determines what the water temp and wash spin/speed combination will be; and since this selector makes the determination, there is no duplication of the choices elsewhere. The cycle dial simply has a range of wash times along with the usual spin-rinse-spin sequence.

The water selector has the two setting I'd be likely to use: half and full. Given the capacity (3.2 cu. ft., or about 12 lb) two or three choices would seem to be enough. Four choices (like in my GE) is potentially confusing.

Finally, there are a number of You-tube videos on the machine. It appears to do a spin drain rather than the typical Whirlpool neutral drain. (It might be that the spin drain is only applicable to older models, but I don't know.)

I'd love to have one of these machines and the matching dryer. They'd go in the 'new' selection of my yet-to-be washer collection.


Post# 578518 , Reply# 3   2/26/2012 at 18:40 (3,935 days old) by bingwsguy (Binghamton NY)        

qualin - If I would buy a new top loader for myself today- this would be it. 300c- yes I agree- the controls look simple and since this is the laundromat version, I suppose it would be durable. Closest thing to my vintage A407- minus the long stroke agitation. Nothing else on the market today gets my attention. I have had front loaders since about 1996- ASKO, BOSCH, SIEMENS- do love them, but the quick cycle time of the top loader is very appealing especially when line drying...when water extraction doesnt really matter to me.

Post# 578523 , Reply# 4   2/26/2012 at 19:15 (3,935 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Maytag name outside, WP under the hood. No different than any other WP. Look for a used MAT12 for a real Maytag...

Post# 578528 , Reply# 5   2/26/2012 at 19:21 (3,935 days old) by dnastrau (Lords Valley, PA)        
Maypool

Is this a Whirlpool DD or the new Whirlpool electronic belt drive design underneath? Since it is 3.2 cubic feet, I'll bet it is a DD...

Post# 578559 , Reply# 6   2/26/2012 at 22:47 (3,935 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

How expensive are one of these machines?

Post# 578562 , Reply# 7   2/26/2012 at 22:50 (3,935 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
WTH?

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Wow! I've never even seen or heard of this before. It does look like an old fashioned TL washer. It does say beltless so it must be direct drive. It seems to cost as much as a SQ TL washer. If it does a spin drain, that's even better. I wish I could see what the inside looks like.

Post# 578575 , Reply# 8   2/27/2012 at 00:44 (3,935 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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~$600.00

Post# 578579 , Reply# 9   2/27/2012 at 01:12 (3,935 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

How would this washer compare to the Maytag MVWC200XW? They're about the same price.

Other than the control panel, I suspect there isn't much of a difference.

Anyone care to comment?


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Post# 578633 , Reply# 10   2/27/2012 at 09:24 (3,934 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Sure Is Interesting

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Found them online here.

Malcolm


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Post# 578634 , Reply# 11   2/27/2012 at 09:27 (3,934 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Spec Sheet

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Here is the specification sheet.

Malcolm


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Post# 578635 , Reply# 12   2/27/2012 at 09:32 (3,934 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Interior Pic

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According to the Whirlpool archive, this is the interior of that model.

Malcolm


Post# 578667 , Reply# 13   2/27/2012 at 11:09 (3,934 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Control Panel

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For posterity.

Malcolm


Post# 578774 , Reply# 14   2/27/2012 at 18:37 (3,934 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Maytag Commerical washer [ WP DD washer ]

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This is a WP DD washer, it is designed to look like an older MT built Commercial machine. Truth is it would be better than the old MTs it replaced, better performance, better durability and much easier to repair.

 

But I do not see any advantage in buying this washer for regular home use, it is far less flexible in regard to cycle settings and lacks a dual-action agitator so it will not wash as large a load and will be harder of clothing. This machine also has greatly lowered water levels and either has the VERY low rinse water level or does a spin rinse only.

 

At this point in time if one wants a traditional TL washer the best bet is to buy a roughly 10 year old KM or WP washer and put it back in tip top shape while all the parts are still available, or buy a new Speed Queen TL washer.


Post# 578792 , Reply# 15   2/27/2012 at 20:11 (3,934 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        
ummmm...

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No.

While this model is easy to repair, it is loud and rickety just like all WP DD machines. If this model has been taken over by Energy Star requirements, then it has the low water level rinse. A Newton MT is just as easy to repair and you will get a better wash -- but that is the age old WP vs. MT argument. I myself would not have it and I replaced 2 WP DD coin ops in one of my stores with Newton MTs and the customers who use these washers like them much more. The proof is in the coin box.

YMMV


Post# 578906 , Reply# 16   2/28/2012 at 01:40 (3,934 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

I can't get over how cheap these machines are. I would have thought that these commercial grade machines would be considerably more expensive than the consumer versions.

When I was growing up, a friend of my mothers had a coin-op solid tub Speed Queen commercial machine in his basement. I asked him about it and he said that he got it really cheap from an old laundromat, he just modified the slider so he wouldn't have to put coins in.

I thought it was really quaint to have a coin-op machine in a normal home, but it did the job quite nicely and worked just fine.

I was kind of under the impression that commercial machines were built to a different standard, rather than just being coin-op versions of consumer machines. Maybe that impression is wrong?

I can't get over even how cheap the front loading commercial machines are, they're even cheaper than Speed Queens. I don't know how an owner would trust their business with them, unless they just couldn't afford to replace a broken machine.

(Maybe Whirlpool prices them cheap because of the volume of machines they produce?) I need some clarification on this! I apologize if I sound ignorant!

Peter, I agree about the higher water levels... I'll gladly take my business to a laundromat which has superior machines.

So, what is the motivation for buying top loaders in a modern laundromat these days? It is just cost and machine density?


Post# 578930 , Reply# 17   2/28/2012 at 05:58 (3,933 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Cheaper...

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While cheaper than you expected, it is quite expensive for a single speed machine. The WP counterpart is a 2 speed machine, has a DAA, and is about 200 cheaper.

Best bet = Speed Queen!

Malcolm


Post# 579109 , Reply# 18   2/28/2012 at 18:22 (3,933 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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First, there is no such thing as a commercial grade toploader. They are all domestic toploaders with a coin drop. Considering that the MAT15 is around the $600 mark, it is more expensive than a domestic model, but it is all the same under the hood.

And if a frontload looks like a domestic machine, then it is. Wascomat/Laundrylux has what looks like a domestic machine, but it has absolutely nothing in common with their Frigidaire line. I'm dubious, but they have assured me they are commercial grade and the machine is very beefy under the hood.

There is absolutely no reason to have a toploader in a laundromat any more. The cost of water/sewer is enough to yank them out and put in fronts. Most new stores built today do not have them at all. Customer demand is the only reason to keep them. Very, very few (read: none) store owners will price them according the the utilities they use. I have mine priced the same as my doubleloads at $2.00, and most other owners think I am crazy for doing so (and they also think my .50 upcharge for "super cycle" is crazy).


Post# 579194 , Reply# 19   2/29/2012 at 03:17 (3,932 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

I seem to recall that the top loaders in my condo had an upcharge for a warm water and a hot water cycle.. About $3.25 for cold, $3.50 for warm and $4.00 for hot.

It makes sense to me from a business perspective to upcharge for hot water cycles or lengthy cycles which use more water...

It's kind of interesting how much more attention I pay to the water meter, even though our utility bill is $1.38 per m3 of water. (1,000 liters or about 264 US Gallons.)

I can certainly see the motivation for moving to front loaders. There is a laundromat near me which has Electrolux machines, they don't upcharge at all for any cycle, I was kind of surprised to see that.

Then again, a Triple Loader wash is $9 there...


Post# 579203 , Reply# 20   2/29/2012 at 06:14 (3,932 days old) by bingwsguy (Binghamton NY)        
Thank You

PeterH770 and Malcom- Thank You both for educating me. I am NOT intrerested in the machine any longer. There is nowhere locally for me to get a hands on look at it. I was imagining it to have the orbital drive and porcelain tub/black maytag agitator....like in a local laundromat. Is that what the MAT12 is like? I do feel that my front loaders do a better job overall- especially with rinsing and extraction, but what got me on this "kick" is that they seem to go trouble free for 3-5 years and then need motors or other parts to revive them. The old Maytags (based on my own family experience) went for 15-30 years almost trouble free. I will always have a top loader as one of my daily drivers- looks like it will always be vintage Maytag. Thanks Again

Post# 579390 , Reply# 21   2/29/2012 at 19:16 (3,932 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        
....like in a local laundromat. Is that what the MAT12 is li

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That is exactly what it is like...

Post# 580381 , Reply# 22   3/4/2012 at 21:18 (3,928 days old) by dexter ()        

The MAT15MNAWW is a mutt; it's built on the Whirlpool 27-inch platform and has a mix of parts.

Whirlpool Direct Drive
Whirlpool basket(3.2 cubic ft. The old model was 2.9)
Plastic outer tub
Maytag controls
Maytag agitator

Over a standard Whirlpool, the Maytag has some upgraded parts:

6-padded clutch
Different spin gear material
Different coupler
New transmission seals
Synthetic transmission oil

The MAT15MN is a bit noisier than the previous Newton-built MAT13MN. It's still a very good machine.

Tip: there is an export setting that allows the user to raise the water level back to normal. Behind the control panel are some wires. A simple switch takes care of it.


Post# 580393 , Reply# 23   3/4/2012 at 22:26 (3,928 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Commerical MT [ WP DD washer ]

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The agitator in this machine is strictly a WP design and has been in use for over 15 years in various basic WP DD models.


Post# 1130723 , Reply# 24   10/8/2021 at 18:52 (423 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
Maytag Commercial

I have used these washers before. I only do half loads in these machines. I just wish they'd do a spray rinse at the final spin and fill up completely with water. I do small to medium sized loads in these machines. They remind me of the Kenmore commercial washer.
I had a dream that a Kenmore commercial was a Maytag. Who knew it would be the case years later? It does sound like a direct drive washer from Whirlpool.


Post# 1159528 , Reply# 25   9/13/2022 at 22:21 by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
my experience with the maytag energy advantage

I've had experiences with this very model of washer here at griffith hall in SFA. Excuse this revival, but it's very important. First of all, the water level is indeed lowered. There are no spray rinses, not even on final spin. It is deceptive there are top holes yet you can't fill it up that high on "large". What were they thinking.
Many of the college students don't give a damn about their laundry. Well, I do. This is why I use the real maytags downstairs. it's the one closest to the door that fills up all the way.



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