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| Post# 579818 3/2/2012 at 13:11 (4,434 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
 This poor soul, I picked this poor little guy up this week, and my oh my what a state of affairs. I've been looking for one of these for a few years now, and while not in great shape, I see hope and I think I can get her in usable shape (maybe)...
Not sure on the year, I'd guess early 1960's, it's a Hoover 0319, made in England. Any UK guys have more info or knowledge of parts for this? The thing is rough, pump is seized, rollers are cracked and all rubber is shot as well as the "Hoover" handle. The main concern is the rollers for the wringer are badly out of round and split. The wringer does not appear to have a way to release the tension?
Wish me luck, a few preliminary pics here:
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| Post# 579821 , Reply# 1 3/2/2012 at 13:13 (4,434 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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More Terror | ||
| Post# 579822 , Reply# 2 3/2/2012 at 13:14 (4,434 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Ready for Action... | ||
| Post# 579823 , Reply# 3 3/2/2012 at 13:18 (4,434 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Almost Forgot! | ||
Post# 579834 , Reply# 4 3/2/2012 at 14:13 (4,434 days old) by vacbear58  (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Ridden hard and put away wet
Tim
That must be a very rare bird in the US indeed. From the handle colour is might even be 1950s or very early 1960s as the hand grip went to grey in early 1960s. You will bed up with strong biceps in your right arm with this one although if you are tall you might not be usuing that much as these machines are quite low. You may find that parts from early hoovermatics (round edged rather than square edged) where the pump is driven off the impeller pump will fit. I know some guys here in the UK have spare pumps (they are non-electrical) but of course there is the shipping charges ...... It was certainly well worth getting though, congratulations Al | ||
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Post# 579851 , Reply# 5 3/2/2012 at 17:06 (4,434 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hoover 0319 Single Tub
Hi Tim, glad you managed to collect it, as Al says above, its nothing that wont scrub up well....if you need any parts, list them here, there are enough about from new/old salvage etc...
It was first produced in January 1953, and the last one, serial number (866,620) was produced in January 1964...heres one I picked up a few years ago.... The link shows the one Robert had at the 2001 convention, the tub is the earlier non shine galvanised tub, nothing short of an oil can and new pipes should see it running a wash soon!! CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK 
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| Post# 579853 , Reply# 6 3/2/2012 at 17:08 (4,434 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Open Up!
Could not wait to get home today and get into the machine. Some of the things I had expected and some were new. This is a NEAT little machine and that motor is way overkill for this mini machine.
Here I've removed the pump which was stuck. Someone has hooked up a power switch which may come in handy later. 
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| Post# 579854 , Reply# 7 3/2/2012 at 17:14 (4,434 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Switch Mod | ||
| Post# 579856 , Reply# 8 3/2/2012 at 17:21 (4,434 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Some Friction | ||
| Post# 579857 , Reply# 9 3/2/2012 at 17:26 (4,434 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Pump Assembly
Here are the bearing and impeller out of the machine. The bearing is wallowed out and ruined. Someone tried to compact string of some sort into the hole and used horrid smelling grease to try and seal it. There is a LOT of play in the bushing, so I will need to either replace the pump with an electric alternative (don't want to) or find this pump base/bearing.
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| Post# 579859 , Reply# 10 3/2/2012 at 17:31 (4,434 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Wringer | ||
| Post# 579860 , Reply# 11 3/2/2012 at 17:35 (4,434 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Rubber Bits | ||
| Post# 579862 , Reply# 12 3/2/2012 at 17:37 (4,434 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Unofficial Death Toll
So far I have a list
Plastic "Hoover" Handle Lower Wringer Roller Pump Bearing/Base Any Spare Trim I certainly have my work for me. The good news is that without the pump, the machine is so smooth and quiet. There is hope! Also, is the machine supposed to have a rigid v-belt or the normal twin-tub elastic flopper? Thanks -Tim | ||
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Post# 579869 , Reply# 13 3/2/2012 at 17:53 (4,434 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Pump
Tim, our pump tyre is like this, is your pump the same??
It looks like your top trim is original and BLUE, the later ones are grey, and replacements are white like the machine above, its unlikely any of us have replacements orginals, certainly not blue....I would find some matching blue mastic sealant and coat it filling all the cracks and smooth it off, then cover with some polish...you`d be surprised how good they can come... Will have a look at the spares between us and see whats we can pull together, Mike 
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Post# 579870 , Reply# 14 3/2/2012 at 17:53 (4,434 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Have To Look But Am Almost Sure My Hoover Manual | ||
| Post# 579873 , Reply# 15 3/2/2012 at 18:06 (4,434 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Old Hoovers
Thanks Mike for the info, I was going to ask if it was grey or that light blue that I've seen the old twinnies wear. I have the same pump pulley as that but with no tire, so it must be missing. I'm not sure what mastic sealer is, some sort of silicone sealant?
Launderess, I also seem to remember that there was a model before this design with gravity drain, much older looking. It looks like many hours ahead of me :) Thanks for all of the info! -Tim | ||
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Post# 579874 , Reply# 16 3/2/2012 at 18:07 (4,434 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Single Tubs
Hi Laundress, that single tub is certainly not anything semi-automatic, its almost less than manual, not even a switch on it...Lol
Can you check your manuals and let us know when the single tubs stopped production, Have never seen any later US models that go with the blue/yellow 1970`s twinnys.. Interesting here, they where still produced and had a matching seperate spin dryer till the early 1990`s... 
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Post# 579876 , Reply# 17 3/2/2012 at 18:10 (4,434 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Trim | ||
| Post# 579878 , Reply# 18 3/2/2012 at 18:15 (4,434 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Sealant | ||
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Post# 579881 , Reply# 19 3/2/2012 at 18:28 (4,434 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Colour | ||
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Post# 579882 , Reply# 20 3/2/2012 at 18:30 (4,434 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Don't Think My Hoover Parts and Service Manual Gives Pro
Know the thing is in there because remember seeing the parts and IIRC repair information.
Single Hoover "SpinaRinses" never made it to the United States from what one can tell. Guess as sales of the Hoover TT declined and that model was phased out the company saw no need. What Hoover did do on this side of the pond was offer a fully automatic washer and tumble dryer. IIRC they were not made by Hoover themselves but rebaged from another maker (Blackstone?). | ||
| Post# 579885 , Reply# 21 3/2/2012 at 18:41 (4,434 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Sealants and Big Hoovers
Hey Mike, I found some turquoise stuff at Lowes, silicone bathroom caulk, they have it in turquoise and more of a medium blue. I'm asssuming that is the same stuff.
Launderess, yes the full-size machines are Blackstone and are unique in their own way. I've had a chance to use one in person. I was wondering about the spin-a-rinse machines, that would have been a nice addition to the lineup here. -Tim | ||
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Post# 580190 , Reply# 22 3/4/2012 at 06:10 (4,432 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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History
Tim
Your machine is little more than a development of the first and very basic Hoover single tub washer which looked like this - small capacity than yours - about 4lb Although there is no confirmation it was sold in the US, it was sold in Canada, Paul (Torquoisedude) has one. As you can see it is very basic 
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Post# 580193 , Reply# 23 3/4/2012 at 06:15 (4,432 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Brochure
And of those who complain about sales tax, we had to endure something like 42.5% when the updated machine was introduced
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Post# 580194 , Reply# 24 3/4/2012 at 06:18 (4,432 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Updated | ||
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Post# 580196 , Reply# 25 3/4/2012 at 06:23 (4,432 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Under the draining board
The really novel thing about these washers (all of them) was their compact size which allowed them to fit easily into small british kitchens. A very large part of the housing stock which this machine would have been geared towards would have been living in 1920s & 1930s houses - houses from this period are noteable for their very small kicthen, often not much bigger than you would find in an apartment, so although very basic they were a useful and practical option
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Post# 580198 , Reply# 26 3/4/2012 at 06:30 (4,432 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Controls
I suspect the lack of any controls on this machine may have been influenced by the British habit of have switches to control our socket outlets, so once plugged in it could stay plugged in for the duration of the wash - being turned on and off "at the wall". Later models with a heater did have a rotary switch "off", "heat", "off", "motor" located on the lower RH side of the the machine.
Tim, you are correct that the wiring does look rather dodgey and could probably do with being replaced, a job that could not be simpler, but in your circumstances I thing an on/off switch would be very useful too. 
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Post# 580202 , Reply# 27 3/4/2012 at 06:42 (4,432 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Spinarise
mention was been made further up of the Spinarise spin drier. This was a bit of good marketing by Hoover once they had developed the Hoovermatic as they could tap into at least 5 years legacy of more or less matching single tubs for updates. Also for those buying new but could only afford a wash tub or a spin drier, there was the prospect of a future sale via the Hoover Twosome concept
CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacbear58's LINK 
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Post# 580203 , Reply# 28 3/4/2012 at 06:46 (4,432 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Still a basic machine | ||
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Post# 580204 , Reply# 29 3/4/2012 at 06:47 (4,432 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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And still "under the draining board" | ||
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Post# 580206 , Reply# 30 3/4/2012 at 06:50 (4,432 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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And finally .... | ||
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Post# 580315 , Reply# 32 3/4/2012 at 16:56 (4,432 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Since one had to dust the bookcase anyway.....
Model is Hoover 0319. Only a few (about three) pages showing various parts and so forth, then a few more pages in the repair/trouble shooting section. Considering the vast coverage given to the twin tub washer (0500) and Blackstone built automatic washer one can safely conclude that buy the time this manual was published at least the Hoover 0319 wasn't a "big". Quick peep through the service portion reveals the wringer could be left or right hand mounted. The pump has an oil port and required a drop or two now and then. | ||
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Post# 580408 , Reply# 33 3/5/2012 at 00:43 (4,432 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 580413 , Reply# 34 3/5/2012 at 01:53 (4,432 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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Poor old guy | ||
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Post# 580414 , Reply# 35 3/5/2012 at 01:57 (4,432 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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That Hoover reminds me
Of this old Hobart DW on Cl in MPLS. I wish I had the money and space for him. He did a lot of work in a large foodservice operation.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO whirlykenmore78's LINK on Minneapolis Craigslist | ||
| Post# 580817 , Reply# 36 3/6/2012 at 15:44 (4,430 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Updates 3/6/12 Upon more work to the machine I discovered a few more things. I cleaned the tub and removed the impeller. Once I removed the impeller cleaned it I realized that it was a red marble Bakelite (!!) and in reasonable shape. The material is much like the original WP's. The bearing is good and more cleaning. Upon closer inspection I have realized that the tub is some sort or galvanized aluminum not stainless as the newer twin-tubs are. Also found the date "DEC 1953" stamped to the back of the tub after cleaning. I would have never believed it to be that old. I can't get the flat-head bolts out that hold the wringer together, is there a trick to that. The lower roller is in bad shape and I need to disassemble the mechanism to prep and paint it.
Trucking ahead, weather is slightly hindering progress, but I can't wait.
-Tim | ||
| Post# 580819 , Reply# 37 3/6/2012 at 15:51 (4,430 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
Really neat! It makes sense that something like this would show up over here as people move here and bring their possesions. The only 'foreign' machines I've come across are a few of the Inglis washer/dryers and one German made machine. I'd love to find something like this. About as simple as can be but I think that adds to the attraction. Have fun, Tim!
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| Post# 581429 , Reply# 38 3/9/2012 at 15:31 (4,427 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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More Stuff
Andy: this is a NEAT little machine indeed. The weather here has been warming up over the last week and I can't wait to get out in the garage and start on it. I need to obtain some parts, notably the pump, but the motor and impeller bushing are in good shape. The machine is very early, "DEC 1953 " stamped on the galvanized aluminum tub. Machine appears to have had about 1/3 of a tub of water sitting in it for a while, there is a very clear water line on the tub.
Surprisingly, this machine appears to be made for the US export market. The motor is 120v and it has the "North Canton" as the Hoover HQ. I'm assuming this machine was made in the legendary Merthyr Tydfil factory originally. All the tag reads is "Made in England by Hoover".
Launderess: "The pump has an oil port and required a drop or two now and then."
I saw this, but judging from the state of affairs on the pump, someone missed a few hundred oilings. It's a shame, this machine seems like it would require very little maintenance to keep working. Would be at liberty to photograph or scan any of that literature?
Mathew: I would appreciate any help from you on that pump situation. I am lacking the tire, and the bushing/seal is shot. It is a very simple gasket, so no worries there. The newer single tubs are stunning, such an interesting concept there. So a wringer model is a separate model than the "single tub"? My e-mail is in my profile, or just my username @gmail.com, drop me a line :)
Al: Thanks for the sales literature, very cool. Judging from those pics, the maroon handle on the front (side?) of the machine that reads "H O O V E R" on my machine is infact warped and in need of replacement. The older machine is pretty cool as well, I never knew they had SS impellers. Mine has a red (dark) Bakelite impeller.
Kevin: Thanks! I wish I could bring it as carry-on with me to LA...
Nick: TLC for sure, it's going to be a LOT of work
Question to all, what color was this machine originally? White or more of an antique white?
Thanks!
-Tim
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Post# 581449 , Reply# 39 3/9/2012 at 19:02 (4,427 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Dating
Tim
Do you have a serial number by any chance? It might be possible to give you a more accurate date if it has the same as British machines - it would begin WZ Only the earliest 0307 models have the SS impeller - Mike has one :) I always thought they were black otherwise but if yours is red (burgandy? matching the handle?) that would tie in with colour schemes used from around 1952 - 1956 I was looking around for some footage of the version with power wringer, and I came across this, much later version, of yours, from the look of the plug at the very start of the video it looks like a US or Canadian machine. I have NEVER seen such a version of this machine before. As you can see from the pictures that Mike and Matt have posted above the late UK versions were more or less the same as yours, with just some styling differences. I have never seen one with a switch of this kind on the front, nor with presumably a seperate pump, with the outlet hose stowed in the back. The impeller assembly in the tub looks more like US machines than those in the UK. Could this have been manufactured in North Canton? Al CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacbear58's LINK | ||
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Post# 581450 , Reply# 40 3/9/2012 at 19:07 (4,427 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Power Wringer
This is a video late model of the power wringer by our own 74Simon. Again, apart from some styling differences and the added safety pedal this machine did not change much during its long production run.
Al CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacbear58's LINK | ||
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Post# 581454 , Reply# 41 3/9/2012 at 19:22 (4,427 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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Hoover washer
When I was a kid (quite a few years ago), new neighbors moved next door to us. She was German, Marlis, but pronounced Maleese, brought one overseas when her husband she met and married there was transferred to the Air Force Base here. Theirs had a powered wringer that I think worked only when the pump was on, course I was most interested in the impeller action. But 5 years later and 2 kids, he surprised her with a new Maytag automatic and she thought she had died and gone to heaven. She made some awsome German dishes and once told us about her family that had been on the other side of the wall and never seen again.
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Post# 581464 , Reply# 42 3/9/2012 at 20:55 (4,427 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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| Post# 582038 , Reply# 43 3/12/2012 at 21:54 (4,424 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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More Wringer Carnage!
So today we had a fair weather day and I did not feel too well early this morning (migraine). So I did some work from home, took some medication and slept a bit more. I woke up feeling a bit better and decided to head out to the shop and do some work on the Hoover wringer machine. Today's objective was to get the wringer apart so I could get the housing painted and assess the lower roller.
With the help of the neighbors and a lot of cussing I got the wringer apart and found my missing hammer. The issue here is that the wringer housing is cast aluminum. The studs that hold the wringer mechanism to the housing are stainless steel. This area is exposed to a lot of moisture when the machine is running as it sits above the impeller. ll of the steam from the water and splash-up gets into the works, and the studs had more than seized. To make matters worse, they used a flathead bit to which it is difficult to gain leverage with. I managed to get 3 studs out and I had to cut the 3rd and re-tap it. What fun! This was the best looking stud that came out... 
This was the worst... 
I did manage to get it all apart, but it's not pretty. The lower roller is S H O T. I don't know of any place that could repair this? This part is on hold until I can figure something out. Huge splits in the roller which are raised up on the edges. The upper roller seems to be OK, but it is much softer. Here is the roller removed... 
So I moved on, I sanded the wringer housing down and started to primer it, it looks so much better without all the gouges and scratches. I am going to take the Dremel wheel to a few areas, prime it some more and wet-sand it before painting it, it's going to look nice I think. I have determined that this machine is actually an antique white with navy blue base trim. The wringer housing with a little primer... 
I also treated the rust rash on the cabinet. This machine had been kept in bad conditions somewhere. The plastic bezel on the front is heat warped and one side was nothing but surface rust. Honestly I can't believe this machine wasn't in a landfill 40 years ago. But I'm glad it wasn't :) Here is the treated side, I mainly did this to quell the rust. I will probably move to the cabinet later on. The main unit needs some wiring and a pump before the cosmetics are to be done. Treated and primed rust side... 
That's all for now, but I feel like I have made some progress. Below is a link to the Picasa album, there will be a few more pics here and explinations. -Tim CLICK HERE TO GO TO macboy91si's LINK | ||
| Post# 582264 , Reply# 44 3/13/2012 at 22:50 (4,423 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Progress 3/13/12
Another fine day in the neighborhood. This time I finished the wringer housing painting and she's looking good! I decided that the machine was originally an antique white as opposed to bright white so I picked up a Krylon color at Wal-Mart called "Ivory" in gloss. I tried this color in a sheet of wood and based it on a photo that Robert posted in 2006. I think it's a very close match. I also bought a beautiful dark navy blue for the trim of the actual cabinet, which is down the road. I also secured some blue silicone for the rubber trim repair online since none of the 13 hardware stores I called had any colored caulk!
Here is the 1st coat of the paint going on, keep in mind there is no clear coat and this is just $4 rattle can from Wal-Mart. I sanded the wringer down with 240 and a hand-held sander. Crevices and loose debris were done with a Dremel cleaning wheel and some sanding discs. I then finished the surface with 360? and 600. This little piece has taken about 7 hours alone. 
Here is an "in-between" shot of another coat going on, coverage is very good, it's going on a little thick, but with the heat lamp and air flow, it is actually curing pretty well. Also this is the actual color of the paint, my cameraphone has issues with cold fluorescent lighting at times. 
At last the final coat for now, I think it's like 5 coats. This is not wet paint but the actual finish sans buffing. I am very pleased with the outcome. 
I will get some good, hi-res pics of things when I find my "real" camera, but for now, here she is. Thanks as always, link to the Picasa album below -Tim CLICK HERE TO GO TO macboy91si's LINK | ||
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Post# 582265 , Reply# 45 3/13/2012 at 22:54 (4,423 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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| Post# 582404 , Reply# 46 3/14/2012 at 16:51 (4,422 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK) | ||
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Looking Good so far Tim, i posted the pump components earlier today, look forward to seeing the restoration progress. Mathew | ||
| Post# 582510 , Reply# 47 3/14/2012 at 22:53 (4,422 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
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Wow, Tim! | ||
| Post# 583981 , Reply# 48 3/20/2012 at 16:08 (4,416 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
hoover single tub washer 
Hoover also made a working toy replica of this machine [theres one on ebay at the moment ]my sister had one in the early 60s the pulsator was powered by a geared handle that fitted into the back of the machine I ws always facinated by the detail on this machine it was a perfect miniature of the real thing some years ago i took a photo of my sisters toy stood next to the real thing here is the pic from ebay
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