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LG Waveforce Investigation |
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Post# 580281   3/4/2012 at 14:22 (4,406 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Was watching an episode of Fringe last night and during a break, our local Fox channel is doing an investigation of the Waveforce machines. I assume there have been several complaints of self destruction at high speed spin.
Anyone else seen the story promo? i'll post additional information as I locate it. Malcolm |
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Post# 580443 , Reply# 2   3/5/2012 at 07:34 (4,405 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 580468 , Reply# 4   3/5/2012 at 10:11 (4,405 days old) by alr2903 (TN)   |   | |
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Today's families are busier than ever, this foolishness will end up in litigation now. If a child is injured or heaven forbid killed, i doubt the "explanation" will fly. |
Post# 580473 , Reply# 5   3/5/2012 at 10:37 (4,405 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Post# 580489 , Reply# 6   3/5/2012 at 11:25 (4,405 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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These are basically the same as the GE Harmonies that have been around for years. Both LG and Samsung appliances are at best light duty appliances. It amazes me that people will buy an expensive appliance with no proven track record of reliability, difficult to obtain repair parts and to top it off no decent independent repair company will touch it. Would anyone buy a car that couldn't be easily repaired ? |
Post# 580584 , Reply# 7   3/5/2012 at 16:10 (4,405 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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I beleave Malcolm stated here before that these machines front or top extra large capacity machines CAN'T HANDLE LARGE LOADS . Like true commercial washers with hefty bearings and shock systems. But they advertise them that way all the time. Like Whirlpool when the DUET came out still pushes 16 pairs of jeans which is Insane ! Then Whirlpool said in different sizes of jeans... come on.. the average home pushes for the max compacity possable ive seen it myself and ask them myself its always ... I WANT TO GET IT DONE. OR I DONT GIVE A SH** I DONT HAVE TIME.
I do like the way they wash pretty interesting but bad guts. Thanks for posting Malcolm.
Darren k
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Post# 580724 , Reply# 10   3/6/2012 at 06:30 (4,404 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 580735 , Reply# 11   3/6/2012 at 07:46 (4,404 days old) by ocalareporter ()   |   | |
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I have a new Waveforce washer and am perfectly happy with it. A little common sense would go a long way in the use of this or any other machine. Dennis |
Post# 580744 , Reply# 12   3/6/2012 at 09:14 (4,404 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()   |   | |
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Cannot say I am a fan at all of these new machines with all these "fancy" electronics. But for the record, you should save these king size blankets, covers etc for commercial FL machines. |
Post# 580761 , Reply# 13   3/6/2012 at 11:02 (4,404 days old) by jetawayjuan (Michigan/Phoenix)   |   | |
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Are there any reports of any other brand having this issue? |
Post# 580769 , Reply# 15   3/6/2012 at 11:49 (4,404 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Post# 580776 , Reply# 16   3/6/2012 at 12:33 (4,404 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()   |   | |
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Oh absolutely, I'm not fully blaming the user for this. They should have used the correct cycle, but at the same time the machine should have stopped when it detected these out of balances. |
Post# 581823 , Reply# 19   3/11/2012 at 22:23 (4,399 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Post# 581873 , Reply# 21   3/12/2012 at 07:06 (4,398 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)   |   | |
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. . . spins at 1000 rpm with never a problem in six years. AND, I have washed my queen size comforter in it several times. I have used Dennis' LG, and it is a smooth running machine. Jerry Gay |
Post# 581886 , Reply# 22   3/12/2012 at 08:39 (4,398 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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I agree with your point but people on average don't display common sense in my experience. And as Glen pointed out, LG does advertise jumbo loads for their machines as well.
I think there is "under-design" here for economy's sake. A simple OOB switch would have caught that. And the switch could have triggered an electronic brake cycle in the motor easily. Arbilab, must check out those SS accelerometers they sound cool! But can you imagine if a kid was watching and he/she was positioned between the wall and the machine looking in from the side?? Gawd that would be awful! I love washer drama!! Bring it on! |
Post# 581910 , Reply# 24   3/12/2012 at 10:49 (4,398 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 582029 , Reply# 26   3/12/2012 at 21:33 (4,398 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 582045 , Reply# 27   3/12/2012 at 22:26 (4,398 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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The SS accelerometers can be found in model helicopters (another hobby of mine). They operate to keep it pointed in the same direction and perform very well. I own about a dozen of them. Cost is on the order of $1 each in bulk. It's just a little stainless can with 4 connections and firmware in the control chip that responds to the SS gyro. Some will even shut themselves off if they hit anything, that depends on programming. So there's no question it can be done cheaply, easily, effectively.
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Post# 582268 , Reply# 29   3/13/2012 at 23:05 (4,397 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Post# 582494 , Reply# 31   3/14/2012 at 21:29 (4,396 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 582542 , Reply# 33   3/15/2012 at 03:57 (4,396 days old) by qualin (Canada)   |   | |
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In the video, it's actually a little scary how the machine is banging around. I think they should at least make the suspension system much stiffer than what they're using now.. I'm not sure why it has to be so loose. |
Post# 583211 , Reply# 36   3/18/2012 at 11:08 (4,392 days old) by toploader1984 ()   |   | |
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i think if you use the bulky cycle it disables the "waveforce" action |
Post# 583896 , Reply# 37   3/20/2012 at 11:26 (4,390 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 584014 , Reply# 38   3/20/2012 at 19:53 (4,390 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 584061 , Reply# 39   3/21/2012 at 01:16 (4,390 days old) by A440 ()   |   | |
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LOL Malcolm! Sad but seems to be true! |