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Dishwashing in the 1920's The OTOMATIK way!!
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Post# 582424   3/14/2012 at 18:10 (4,417 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        

I just got this on fleaBay and am intrigued by the simplicity. Only problem...I can't find any info about it. I hope that someone can shed some light on it with maybe an ad or literature / instructions.

It is a spin tube dishwasher though I can't seem to get the tube to spin with water. It spins just fine and easy by hand. The unit is small as the dimensions are only 18" deep x 18" wide x 12" deep.



I'm going to post several pics for your viewing pleasure!! Enjoy :-)

Rich




This post was last edited 03/14/2012 at 18:27



Post# 582425 , Reply# 1   3/14/2012 at 18:15 (4,417 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        
Sitting in its proper pose

It's made out of galvanized sheet metal which is painted and hand pinstriped. The hose, of course, isn't the proper one but all I had on hand. The sink adapter is the proper one that came with it.

Post# 582427 , Reply# 2   3/14/2012 at 18:18 (4,417 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        
The inside.

Not very big. I can't quite fit my full sized 12" plates in the unit. The top rack is split so they swing up and out of the way to load the bottom. Not much room for tall glasses. Terrible design!!

Post# 582428 , Reply# 3   3/14/2012 at 18:21 (4,417 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        
Better pic of spin tube.

It sprays very fine jets of water. Just will not spin. Feels like it may be nickle plated copper.

Post# 582430 , Reply# 4   3/14/2012 at 18:27 (4,417 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        
The soap dispenser

I guess this is what makes it OTOMATIK!! Not automatic. I think they must have done the spelling to avoid being sued :-) They never claimed it was automatic!

Post# 582433 , Reply# 5   3/14/2012 at 18:35 (4,417 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        
Close-up of dispenser. Last pic

There is a screen inside so that you could put powdered soap in and it would dissolve slowly as the water ran through it. Once empty it would OTOMATIKLY rinse the dishes. Sheesh. What a gimmick!

I believe that these dishwashers were not made in any great numbers as the pinstriping seems to be hand done and the screen ring inside the soap dispenser is very well hand made out of brass. Still has the file marks on it.

Hope you get as much of a kick out of it as I do. I know that it doesen't have the screaming design of a 50's appliance but I think that it has a certain primitive charm that harkens back to a simpler time.

Rich


Post# 582435 , Reply# 6   3/14/2012 at 18:43 (4,417 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
It's Bigger than a Bread Box !!!

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Very Cool

That's a way better design than this one. Some guy posted this here about a year or two ago.


Post# 582444 , Reply# 7   3/14/2012 at 19:30 (4,417 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
That seems like

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more work than just doing the dishes. I can't imagine houses didn't have a scads of hot water on hand back in the day.

Post# 582465 , Reply# 8   3/14/2012 at 20:26 (4,417 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        

Hey Eddie, What post did this other dishwasher come from? I don't remember it. Were there any other pics?

Jon, I can't believe that this dishwasher enjoyed any popularity for just the reason you stated though I do have a instant electric water heater that would hook/snap on to the end of the faucet but I doubt that it would heat the volume of water needed for the dishwasher.

Rich


Post# 582470 , Reply# 9   3/14/2012 at 20:44 (4,417 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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It's not just cool it's uber cool. Never seen such a thing that old before, like a prehistoric Whirlaway

Post# 582474 , Reply# 10   3/14/2012 at 20:56 (4,417 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)        

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Wow, Rich. That is a fantastic find. Way ahead of both Youngstown and Frigidaire on the spray tube technology.

Thanks for sharing this with us.

Mike


Post# 582475 , Reply# 11   3/14/2012 at 21:00 (4,417 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Saw That Listing On eBay

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Assumed only a member of this group would be bidding, so kept mum and didn't post the information as one normally does for "odd" finds.

Glad one was right and that a member was able to nab the thing.

L.


Post# 582483 , Reply# 12   3/14/2012 at 21:11 (4,417 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        
Thank you to you both!

Mike, Do you have any info or knowledge of this dishwasher? I figure that if anyone would it would most likely be you :-)

Launderess, Thanks you for your discretion though I don't know how many others would be crazy enough to lay out hard cold cash for it. I'm very glad to have it :-)

Pete, " Never seen such a thing that old before" Many years ago I did see a dishwasher in the back barn of an antique store that had to be from the late 1800's. It was a long galvanized tub(picture a half oval) that had a galvanized top. Inside were racks and at the bottom was a wood dasher that you would rock back and forth thus spraying water on your dishes. The dealer wanted a pretty penny for it so there it stood. I wasn't yet interested in collecting vintage appliances but I did take notice of that dishwasher and tried to justify buying it :-(

Rich


Post# 582484 , Reply# 13   3/14/2012 at 21:12 (4,417 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Hey Rich.

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I have no idea why, but the guy picked my profile and e-mailed me privately. This was before the AW page changed.  I have quite a few pics.  I am going to see if I have the e-mail archived somewhere.


Post# 582486 , Reply# 14   3/14/2012 at 21:15 (4,417 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        
Thanks, Eddie!

I would love to see them. Early technology fascinates me. I love the look of the later machines but I have a passion for the earliest pieces. Great to see where we started and how far we've come!!

Rich


Post# 582489 , Reply# 15   3/14/2012 at 21:19 (4,417 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        
Maybe the same?

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Rich , There was an old dw on display at the Ford Museum in Dearborn that was iirc like a half oak barrel (cut lengthwise) on a stand with rack inserts and a crank whereby the rack swung back and forth in the water. It's been at least 12 years since I last visited so maybe time to go have another look.

Post# 582490 , Reply# 16   3/14/2012 at 21:21 (4,417 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Rich...

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I found the e-mail.  It was from 2009.

 

I'm turning in soon, but I'll send or post more pics later.


Post# 582491 , Reply# 17   3/14/2012 at 21:22 (4,417 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Post# 582495 , Reply# 18   3/14/2012 at 21:29 (4,417 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)        

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Rich,

No, I had not heard of this particular one before.

Mike


Post# 582502 , Reply# 19   3/14/2012 at 22:08 (4,417 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Wow super cool! Look an early spray tube dishwasher. I'm very impressed!

Post# 582779 , Reply# 20   3/16/2012 at 08:07 (4,416 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Robert that Tom Thumb

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thing is bojack! Did it heat by dribbling the water through it?? You made dribble tea and it took an hour and was luke warm?? Thats designed by men who never worked in a kitchen!! Like that "modern kitchen" I sent you from 1943!!



Post# 582781 , Reply# 21   3/16/2012 at 08:10 (4,416 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Chuck & Rich

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been thinking about your spray tube problem, that looks like what they used to call a "marine bearing". They worked without lubrication but with scads of water to float the two members apart to they could turn. Are you getting enough water pressure off that hose into the box?? have you tried a garden hose yet?

The Launderall tubs had marine bearings at both ends.



Post# 582788 , Reply# 22   3/16/2012 at 08:51 (4,416 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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OMG!  That is very cool!  No doubt the folks at Frigidaire and Youngstown looked back to this design when they built their spray-tube mahcines. 

 

I can't help but agree that water pressure and hot water supply was probably not sufficient in most homes in the 20s to make this work all that well, though...  

 

Can't wait to see a 'wash test'! 

 

Congratulations, Rich!!


Post# 582874 , Reply# 23   3/16/2012 at 15:32 (4,415 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        
There was an old dw on display at the Ford Museum in Dearbo

Pete, If you do get back to the HFM take a moment to go into the Lamy Diner. This diner belonged to my uncle Clovis Lamy. Our family donated it to the museum many years ago.

As for the Tom Thumb water heater...YIKES! Water AND electricity at that time with no safety devices I'm sure.

I will try a garden hose, Jon, and maybe it will then have enough pressure. It spins without a problem when there is no water. Should I try to take it apart to make sure that something isn't obstructing it from the inside?

Paul, Thanks. I haven't seen any others. Ron (Kenmore58) said that he did see one, about a decade ago, at a local auction in RI. His friend purchased it to sell. I'm going to speak with the guy that sold his to me and find out if he got it from RI. It could be the same one.

As soon as I get it working we'll get a vid up and posted!

Rich


Post# 582883 , Reply# 24   3/16/2012 at 16:43 (4,415 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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Love the old water heater. Considering that back then water pipes were also used to connect grounding wires it was probably saver to use than any toaster of this age.

Post# 582915 , Reply# 25   3/16/2012 at 19:55 (4,415 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        

I never thought of it that way, Stefan!

It must have seemed like a dream at the time :-)

Rich


Post# 582927 , Reply# 26   3/16/2012 at 20:29 (4,415 days old) by maytag63 (South Berwick, Maine)        

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Nice, can't wait to see it the next time we come and visit.

Post# 583093 , Reply# 27   3/17/2012 at 19:34 (4,414 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        
It'll be here :-)

Look forward to seeing you again!

Rich


Post# 583174 , Reply# 28   3/18/2012 at 06:34 (4,414 days old) by kimball455 (Cape May, NJ)        

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Neat dishwasher but I don't think the health inspector would approve it for the B&B.
Harry


Post# 583283 , Reply# 29   3/18/2012 at 13:12 (4,414 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        

I don't think so either, Harry!!

Rich


Post# 583309 , Reply# 30   3/18/2012 at 15:13 (4,413 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Rich what a nice fine...

When I saw the cabnet I also thought it was a drying cabnet.

They also looks like a even better Jetaction type of sprayarm the holes are ooh tiny..

seems it would make a hell of a fine spray system.

Never stop learning at this site.

I hope you well on the restore.

 

Eddie I guess that machine you posted seems early before impeller types came along.

Seems like it might throw water around that cavity pretty well.. like to see that.

 

Darren k


Post# 583349 , Reply# 31   3/18/2012 at 18:13 (4,413 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Otomatik

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Well it was a heck of allot more automatic than washing dishes by hand which was the only other alternative. *LOL*

Most women back then would have loved to have anything that kept their hands out of hot water three times or more a day.


Post# 583387 , Reply# 32   3/18/2012 at 20:37 (4,413 days old) by perc-o-prince (Southboro, Mass)        

I would agree, Launderess!!

The holes are very tiny. This is why I can't figure out why it will not spin. I was too busy this weekend to play with it but I'm sure that I'm just missing something.

Rich



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