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Thread Number: 39337
Got the Machine need help! 1966 WP BD |
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Post# 582969 , Reply# 1 3/17/2012 at 05:37 (4,420 days old) by goatfarmer  (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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| Post# 582975 , Reply# 2 3/17/2012 at 07:35 (4,420 days old) by 1966_mustang () | ||
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Yea its here.. But man I did not realise what the work it needed So Now I have the Spanner nut off How do I remove the tube? Is it threaded on or just pressed on? | ||
| Post# 582978 , Reply# 3 3/17/2012 at 07:48 (4,420 days old) by 1966_mustang () | ||
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OK I just answered My question on the tub.. Its Out.. So now how do you remove the Funny Cone shaped piece that the agitator drive on? | ||
| Post# 582989 , Reply# 4 3/17/2012 at 08:45 (4,420 days old) by 1966_mustang () | ||
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OK, Like I mentioned before the Machine will not Agitate. Even with the Wig-Wag work correctly to shift the gears... Where can I get a new transmision for this machine? Model number: LRA5500W 1 | ||
| Post# 582992 , Reply# 5 3/17/2012 at 09:07 (4,420 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
Slow Down
I think you need to wait for people to respond and calm down. I realize that you are excited, but your original post is less than a 12 hours ago. Hang out and see if someone responds.
My question to YOU is how do you know the transmission is bad? What specifically does the machine do to make you think that? What noises does it make? There are many parts to a belt-drive WP machine, how familiar are you with the workings? It may not be the transmission. Again slow down and do this slow and methodical otherwise you will end up with a pile of parts that never gets assembled. Advice... -Tim | ||
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Post# 583017 , Reply# 6 3/17/2012 at 12:17 (4,420 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Exactly....Calm down......we all know the effects of getting a new toy.....take your time...and one thing at a time if your not fully aware of a machines mechanics and operation.......
JohnL will chime in as he always does....we love him to death...he's full of information...... It might even be best to have it shipped to him to rebuild it for you.......and even pay a visit some weekend while he is doing it......it is fascinating to tear one down and rebuild from the ground up........then you know that machine will last you for many years to come.... as far as the agitator block goes......if the hold down bolt is removed, usually you can put two heavy screwdrivers under it and pry down, it should slide up and off..... you posted the model already....pics will also help John help you.... | ||
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Post# 583021 , Reply# 7 3/17/2012 at 13:09 (4,420 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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 One problem I ran into a couple years ago with a buddies '85 WP washer is the solenoid (wig-wag) plunger, which moves the cam bar to engage spin was bent. When this happened it would engage but NOT dis-engage. This caused the transmission to bind up (lock up) once it tried to agitate again and burn the drive belt. I had to remove the solenoid (wig-wag) assembly and replace the plunger (and the belt). It worked perfectly after that! See the link below, this is another thread about the exact same problem. This video was before the repair. The "spin" cam bar is the one on the left. You can see (hear) it engage but see once the lid switch was released it did NOT stop spinning. You can also see the plunger bobbing up and down when it is SUPPOSED to take it out of spin. Kevin CLICK HERE TO GO TO RevvinKevin's LINK | ||
| Post# 583023 , Reply# 9 3/17/2012 at 13:14 (4,420 days old) by 1966_mustang () | ||
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RevvinKevin, Well the Wig-Wag does indeed move the Cam bar OK, It will just not move the machine in to agitate gear. | ||
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Post# 583024 , Reply# 10 3/17/2012 at 13:51 (4,420 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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well for the most part, we will say you have a tranny issue, but you do have movement inside because the wig-wag is oscillating, but somewhere inside, when the cam slides in to agitate, something is out of place when it should engage, it's not.....something inside is out of alignment or broke......
but nothing that can't be fixed......depends on how far you want to go, just replace the tranny, or take it apart, and put a replacement piece in there to allow the agitator to move...... replacement is easy, but taking it apart will teach you alot allowing you to observe its function | ||
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Post# 583029 , Reply# 13 3/17/2012 at 14:45 (4,420 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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for the most part.....
the tranny is gonna be just that, the tranny, which just does the agitation, with shifters and solenoids.....and the agitator post only... the spin drive and tube is another seperate part altogether...... bearings are a seperate part as well......sometimes you can get a complete kit with spin drive and bearings.... right now, you could slide the tranny out of the machine, leaving the spin drive in place....if theres no knocking while spinning, I'd leave that alone for now..... CLR should remove most of that calcium and iron from the machine with ease...... then you can work on that filter port, clean it real well, and reseal it in place... yeah, this stuff is a slow process.....and wish it could be done and repaired in a day....an idea also is to find a newer model beltdrive, and just switch the top, something I have in the plans for myself, a 1965 top going onto a 1985 body.... | ||
| Post# 583033 , Reply# 15 3/17/2012 at 14:53 (4,420 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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Post# 583037 , Reply# 16 3/17/2012 at 16:04 (4,420 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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yes that cone shaped "drive block" has to come off.......loosen the belt, take out bolts to the pump, and either remove, or push it out of the way, label and remove the wires to the wigwag, take off support braces, remove the 3 bolts to the tranny, keep in mind if your laying the machine on its front, the lower left tranny bolt has a sleeve used to connect, this will fall out, don't lose it, it will be re-used when you put this bolt back, also at this location is a small spring, take this off, and keep in mind of where it goes, and a small ball bearing may fall out of the agitator shaft, no biggie, just keep it to put back in place...but at this point...the tranny should slide out, leaving the spin drive in place....
take off the big pulley, the wigwag, shifters, and several bolts, and the top should come off....and inside is all the workings that make agitation happen...but you should be able to play around while turning the big pulley, and try to engage the agitation rod up and down, I can't help but wonder if the rod is actually stuck in the up position, which is neutral, pushing down engages agitation.... before you disassemble all of this, can you turn the big pulley by hand, while lifting the right plunger, keep turning the pulley, and look down inside, by the pumps lever is the rod that should go down to engage agitation, is it going down following the slide of the shifter, or it it staying in place, popped up? am I confusing you? | ||
| Post# 583082 , Reply# 19 3/17/2012 at 18:29 (4,420 days old) by 1966_mustang () | ||
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I'll try to shoot it with some WD40 and see what happens.. | ||
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Post# 583090 , Reply# 21 3/17/2012 at 19:16 (4,420 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Southern talk is what it's all about......lol
the oil can be changed....but it involves removing the tranny as above, and opening it up.......
I have never done it on any of my machines....and I would only think it would need done, if water got in there, you were rebuilding it, or its really like a sludge....but for the most part, its a sealed unit....others with experience with this can chime in, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it..... I don't think theres a spring in there, it just slides up and down according to the shifters position.....its been a long while since I had one of these apart.... I just think your machine has been sitting for a while, and things are stiff/stuck...and once you get them moving/lubed again.....you should be good to go on a regular basis.... did you try plugging it in and seeing if the agitation now kicks in?......turn your timer to wash, pull off the pressure hose from the outter tub, and blow into it....it should kick right into agitation mode..... jumping back a post or two......LimeAway and "CLR" are about the same thing.....Calcium Lime And Rust remover......can usually be found at places like Kmart, WalMart, ShopRite....near the chemicals for cleaning the kitchen or bath.... wear gloves, and maybe a mask, its potent, but for many has done a great job....sponge/spray it on full strength, scrub the area, and rinse off!...... so far...your on a roll.........what's next? | ||
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Post# 583102 , Reply# 23 3/17/2012 at 20:16 (4,420 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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this is fantastic.....not the tear down we thought we were gonna get into....at least you now have agitation....so the tranny is good.....I pictured you jumping up and down when that kicked in....lol....I know I would be!
...but yeah, the wire wheel does make it go faster than by hand, and of course dust everywhere......I have a huge compressor with a hand sander, which uses these little disk, sands and smooths at the same time......usually done in the garage with the big fan blowing....but still a messy job........ you may also want to put sealant around other areas of the inner tub....hate to see you get it all together, and a leak pop from one of the hold down screws.....it happens....I was using GorillaGlue on mine, interesting stuff, you apply to one side, and the other side you wet down, join together, and some sort of clamping to hold in place, it sort of foams and activates, and seals in hours....I was amazed!..... keep us posted on your progress! | ||
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Post# 583127 , Reply# 25 3/17/2012 at 22:01 (4,420 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Now....heres some things that will puzzle you....a lot of actual parts are NLA, NoLongerAvailable, and you may have to improvise, create your own, or think outside the box.......not sure which gasket you need, but this applies to so many things......
hit Lowes.....plumbing section, bathroom sink drains-they use a small rubber gasket that may work.....theres also a 5x5 piece of rubber gasket they sell to cut you own......Lowes also has a section of nuts and bolts, and odd hard to find items in little drawers...you will be suprised at what you can do with this stuff... hit PEPBoys, AutoZone, etc....a huge variety of ring gaskets and stuff can work as well..... FArm and Family Centers.....Lawn-Garden-Feed......I use a lawnmower belt on my beltdrives....a little thicker, and padded.....adds a little more kick to the agitation and spin speed.....very quiet as well...something to play with later.... also, can you post a pic of the dispenser piece thats broken......maybe we can work on that too....or someone may have a spare replacement.... | ||
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Post# 583739 , Reply# 27 3/19/2012 at 20:45 (4,418 days old) by YOGITUNES (New Jersey) |
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Post# 583933 , Reply# 29 3/20/2012 at 13:51 (4,417 days old) by joefuss1984 (Little Rock, AR) |
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