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The Hotpoint WM12 has a new partner - Hotpoint TL21
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Post# 584399   3/22/2012 at 11:32 (4,417 days old) by Aquarius8000 ()        

So here is my new full size dryer. Scince I let go of my Whight Knigt, 5 washers and 1 dryer just not enough. So it's going to be put in the shed on Satturday as I have a lot on my plate at the moment. Here are some photos.

P.s Glenfeildmathk1, the drum is metal, steel.





Post# 584401 , Reply# 1   3/22/2012 at 11:35 (4,417 days old) by Aquarius8000 ()        

Full front

Post# 584402 , Reply# 2   3/22/2012 at 11:37 (4,417 days old) by Aquarius8000 ()        

Made in Great Britan. Nice high gloss fascia to match.

Post# 584403 , Reply# 3   3/22/2012 at 11:39 (4,417 days old) by Aquarius8000 ()        

Drying programmes. not too sure how high high heat is...

Post# 584404 , Reply# 4   3/22/2012 at 11:41 (4,417 days old) by Aquarius8000 ()        

Timer dial.

Post# 584405 , Reply# 5   3/22/2012 at 11:42 (4,417 days old) by Aquarius8000 ()        

Drum

Post# 584414 , Reply# 6   3/22/2012 at 12:07 (4,417 days old) by Aquarius8000 ()        

Rear. It was taken when it was in the car.

Post# 584416 , Reply# 7   3/22/2012 at 12:09 (4,417 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

Nice

From this picture you can see its steel, It must have been the lighting in the other video:)



Post# 584420 , Reply# 8   3/22/2012 at 12:31 (4,417 days old) by Aquarius8000 ()        

It was facing te rear seats and the camerea dosent have a light for videos.

Here is my youtube channel(link below.)

I just need a tube, It does have a filter, I took it out when the pic was taken.


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Post# 584462 , Reply# 9   3/22/2012 at 16:10 (4,416 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
TL21

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A very nice Reversomatic Chris, now that would look good side by side against my WM22A shame it's not an almond one.

Post# 584469 , Reply# 10   3/22/2012 at 17:16 (4,416 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        
That's a blast from the past!

Mum had the next model up (Reversomatic De Luxe TL22) in almond. I used to turn on the buzzer which Mum found annoying. I really do need a proper dryer but I have to get the models I like first. Washer hunting tomorrow anyways.

Post# 584727 , Reply# 11   3/24/2012 at 04:09 (4,415 days old) by Aquarius8000 ()        
hi again

Thanks for your replys. We moved it in the shed yesterday evening. Its on top of the WM12 and its a miricle it fitted, origionally it was a play house lol.

Here they are stacked...


Post# 584729 , Reply# 12   3/24/2012 at 04:22 (4,415 days old) by HotpointFan (United Kingdom)        
Chris

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What a pair! The glossy finish sure has cleaned up well!

What on earth is in the WM12 though?

Jacob


Post# 584730 , Reply# 13   3/24/2012 at 04:30 (4,415 days old) by Aquarius8000 ()        

Soft tabs and a set of drawers in ther for temporary storage. First propper use today.

Post# 590865 , Reply# 14   4/19/2012 at 18:22 (4,388 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
Hotpoint TL21

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Terrific dryer - I have the same model, twinned with its matching partner the WM25, great machines, they have been my daily drivers since 1997

Grant


Post# 590997 , Reply# 15   4/20/2012 at 10:15 (4,388 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
Hi Grant

Nice to see someone else with one too and your set are awsome. WM25+TL21 both look mint!

Post# 591065 , Reply# 16   4/20/2012 at 16:23 (4,387 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
Cheers Chris

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Yes they are well looked after. Pic is a bit fuzzy, will upload a few more.

Post# 591069 , Reply# 17   4/20/2012 at 16:45 (4,387 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
Wow

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They look brand new mcduffpth, they dont look like they are from 1997, these were the last round door models Hotpoint made before the hexagonal doors came in.

Merloni took over Hotpoint in 2001.


Post# 591795 , Reply# 18   4/24/2012 at 12:07 (4,384 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
WM25 + TL21

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A few more pics, hopefully a bit clearer this time... Pic of WM25 door shows scratched glass through years of gruelling work, looking to get a replacement glass bowl to smarten it up again...

Post# 591797 , Reply# 19   4/24/2012 at 12:10 (4,384 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
WM25 + TL21

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WM25

Post# 591798 , Reply# 20   4/24/2012 at 12:11 (4,384 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
WM25 + TL21

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TL21

Post# 591799 , Reply# 21   4/24/2012 at 12:12 (4,384 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
WM25 + TL21

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WM25 door glass

Post# 591834 , Reply# 22   4/24/2012 at 14:49 (4,383 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
WM25+TL21

How often have your bearings/brushes lasted in your washing machine?
Looks in very good condition.
Looks modern too, shame they don't make them any more.


Post# 591851 , Reply# 23   4/24/2012 at 16:24 (4,383 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
WM25 + TL21

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Still original bearings in WM25 although there is now a noticeable rumble when spinning so I think a bearing change will be on the cards quite soon. It's quite a brush-hungry machine and has had many brush changes through the years. Had new commutator and brushes fitted a few months ago.

Post# 592052 , Reply# 24   4/25/2012 at 12:46 (4,383 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
Hi Grant

Those look absolutly stunning! Thanks for the photos.My TL21 does a few towels in just 40 mins on high wether as my old dryer(White Knight compact) took absolutle ages and its more effeciant according to the meter. I think its a D and so was the previous dryer was but probbabtly moer eco effeciant as it dries more. the dryer for the house is a zanussi TC481 dryer bought new in 1999and a Hotpoint WT960P wich isnt particularly great(could do with a new door seal) .Please try both your machines keep them both going as they are the best hotpoints ever. BTW do see my vids of it - on Youtube. see the link.

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Post# 592076 , Reply# 25   4/25/2012 at 14:16 (4,383 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

what a cracking pair you have there!! :P he he, i much preferred those style of Hotpoints than the ones with the chunky doors

Post# 592305 , Reply# 26   4/26/2012 at 09:43 (4,382 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint Matching Sets

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Welcome to the club Grant, those are a stunning pair of original Hotpoints, and look even better as a matched set...Had forgotten how shiny the fascias where after years of matt brown!!

Heres the spec sheet to compare:


Post# 592380 , Reply# 27   4/26/2012 at 17:31 (4,381 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
Notice at the bottom

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they say Hotpoint Recommends Persil and Comfort in its machines

Shame that Hotpoint now recommend Ariel.


Post# 592381 , Reply# 28   4/26/2012 at 17:35 (4,381 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
Hotpoint matching sets

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Thanks for that Mike - it was the shiny facias that attracted me to them when I bought them all those years ago, lol.

 

Thats an impressive list of machines you have there Smile

 

Cheers

Grant


Post# 592383 , Reply# 29   4/26/2012 at 17:41 (4,381 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
Notice at the bottom

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I've never really been a fan of Ariel or Persil - my mother always used Ariel in her twin tub when I was a child  - Daz is my choice when it comes to getting my whites white, nothing else gets my uniform shirts as clean and a lovely smell too Laughing

 

Grant


Post# 592495 , Reply# 30   4/27/2012 at 11:36 (4,381 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
Hi Mike, Grant and Kyle

Mike - thanks for the scan. can i see the wm12 if you have please.

Grant/Kyle - I tend to use what ever I am in the mood for - open bottle of lenor. And I use Bold sometimes.


Post# 592618 , Reply# 31   4/28/2012 at 07:45 (4,380 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
@Aquarius8000

As Far as I am aware, the WM12 spec is identicle to the WM14, as is my WM31, with the WM34, just the machines on that scan are the newer models, that came in slightly after the WM12, WM31's etc. The WM12, WM31's etc were based on previous designs, the WM34, WM14 etc were based on the WM12, WM31 designs. I think production was running at the same time, for a few months after the WM14, WM34 were launched.

Someone might tell otherwise, but that is what I thought.


Post# 592619 , Reply# 32   4/28/2012 at 07:53 (4,380 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
@mcduffpth

Wow, thanks for informing me about the bearings, I wasn't expecting them to be the original ones still. Just watch out, once they are replaced, the new ones wear out quicker:)
Yes, Our WM31 regularly needed brushes changing. However since May 2010, the HEC motor was installed (replaced the old GDA one-because it seized up), now the brushes are still strong nearly 2 years on! (just wished it still had the original).


Post# 592624 , Reply# 33   4/28/2012 at 08:51 (4,380 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
Just watch out, once they are replaced, the new ones wear ou

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Not neccesarily the case at all,

Glenfieldmathk1 I have no idea what gives you this impression but its simply not the case.

Bearings are an item which depend entirely on quality of production and the manner in which they are replaced.

A good set of bearings made and fitted correctly can last any number of years, likewise a decent set of bearings installed shoddily will wear out quicker.

Cheaper lesser made bearings can still last a good time if installed well too,

Point in case - The Hoover A3060 was a problematic machine with the bearings not lasting due to the 1100 spin, Hoover replaced a good number of these shoddy bearings under warranty as they wore out on 2 and 3 year old machines. Once replaced with bearings up for the job these machines went on to provide years of service trouble free.

Please dont come on here without getting your facts right and scaremongering with unthougthout and uneducated comments.

Grant Welcome to the club, Fabulous set you have there, im quite envious. They Look FAB.

Always prefer a side by side line up myself but currently have stacked to facilitate dryer venting. Come summer I hope to get extra work top installed with thru wall venting and the Hotpoint 95620 repaired to go alongside its dryer partner.

Lived with a WM12 for a while, which is still going after all these 18 years with just one brush change, a new door seal and a bearing change 4 years ago.
The Owner wont part with it as it suits her needs brilliantly.

Fingers crossed for another 16 odd years out of yours - if the bearings do need doing get them done ASAP before they collapse completely and require a new drum spider. Rusted bearings are no fun to remove for anyone. Hotpoint run a repair service for around £150 which is well worth it for an overhaul and the work is guaranteed after that too which will cover you well. Failing that if your handy yourself its a time consuming job but quite achievebale if you have the right tools.

Rob


Post# 592830 , Reply# 34   4/29/2012 at 09:17 (4,379 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
Hi Rob

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Thanks for the welcome.

I was considering attempting the bearing change myself. Is there any specialised tools I might need for the job? I have found a few "YouTube" videos of bearings being changed and it seems a hammer, chisel and brute force are the order of the day. I would like to get it done asap as, apart from the noise when spinning, I'm aware it's not doing the machine any favours running it like that.

Cheers
Grant


Post# 592848 , Reply# 35   4/29/2012 at 11:41 (4,379 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Grant,

Tools needed from what I remember, are the socket wrench and correct socket. Rubber/Wood Mallet, Chock of sturdy wood that will fit between the Pulley (wheel that the belt rides on to turn the drum) and the ridges in the back of the plastic outer tub.

Also its a good idea to have a piece of wood that fits over the bearing from the back of the tub and will push out on its outer races. Push the inner bearing race and you will kiss goodbye to the bearing.

Likewise for the inner tub bearing that you access from the inside once the washing drum has been removed.

Those videos are quite good and are not too far from how it ought to be.

Set aside a good mornings work, and go at your own pace. Most of the hassle is dismantling the machine and getting the old bearings out. After slipping the new ones in and reassembly is a doddle.

If you do start and you dont feel confident after a while its always best to call in a pro. I would reccomend the Hotpoint service/overhaul fee. Im sure for a one off payment they will look at everything so if there are other issues too it may work out much cheaper anyway.

What you do nned to be careful of is that when you leave the bearing repair long enough it will usually end up with the ALuminium spider that attaches the washing drum to the outer pulley cracking snapping and damaged which is another part to buy when the originals are usually in good condition. So please do attend to it sooner than later. Spider repairs are a pain to do and one less thing that neednt of happened.

Let us know how you get on!

Rob


Post# 593325 , Reply# 36   5/1/2012 at 08:37 (4,377 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
@Aquarius1984

I am only going on my own experience from my WM31, the bearings lasted 4 years, the original, the next set needed changing year on year, one lot only lasted 5 months.
The latest ones that they have put in were replaced in 2010, so lasted 2 years, but they are on their way out, and rumble.


Post# 593368 , Reply# 37   5/1/2012 at 11:29 (4,377 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
Mission Accomplished

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WM25 bearings changed today, took me most of the afternoon but did it without too much hassle. Getting the old ones out was the most problematic part but brute force and a bit of swearing got them out, lol....

Pic 1

Stripping the machine down to remove the tub


Post# 593371 , Reply# 38   5/1/2012 at 11:32 (4,377 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
Mission Accomplished

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Pic 2

Drum out


Post# 593375 , Reply# 39   5/1/2012 at 11:38 (4,377 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
Mission Accomplished

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Pic 3

Old bearings out, tub cleaned and new bearings in


Post# 593377 , Reply# 40   5/1/2012 at 11:40 (4,377 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Grant!

Brilliant news.

Just hope you didnt use brute force to hammer the new ones in. Ruin the inner of the bearing and you have had it LOL. The most nerve wracking part for me.

Sure its been water tested and all by now and is happily good to go for another few years.

Not that it matters of course but you could of done the bearings with just the front and back panels removed and drum in situ on the suspension. No problem either way just saves a little time.

Brilliant Job, Well done!


Post# 593380 , Reply# 41   5/1/2012 at 11:41 (4,377 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
Mission Accomplished

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Pic 4

Empty cabinet - hope I remember where all the bits go, lol


Post# 593381 , Reply# 42   5/1/2012 at 11:46 (4,377 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
Mission Accomplished

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Pic 5

Tub/drum reassembled and back in cabinet, concrete blocks and motor back on


Post# 593382 , Reply# 43   5/1/2012 at 11:49 (4,377 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
Mission Accomplished

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Pic 6 

Almost  there Smile


Post# 593383 , Reply# 44   5/1/2012 at 11:51 (4,377 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
Mission Accomplished

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Pic 7

 

Load in, ready to test Tongue out


Post# 593386 , Reply# 45   5/1/2012 at 12:00 (4,377 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        
Mission Accomplished

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Load completed, no leaks, no rumbles, all working fine Laughing

 

Rob:

 

Thanks for that, used a piece of wood to protect bearings and just gently tapped them in - much easier to insert the new ones than it was to remove the old ones -  think it would have been a lot more difficult if the tub was still in situ, was able to get the tub outside and really get at it, lol....

 

Cheers

Grant


Post# 593389 , Reply# 46   5/1/2012 at 12:06 (4,377 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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LOL

Im impressed for sure anyway. Nice neat and tidy job.

Top marks and ten out of ten.

I dont suppose you are on facebook or msn per chance?


Post# 593393 , Reply# 47   5/1/2012 at 12:23 (4,377 days old) by mcduffpth (Perth Scotland)        

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Thanks Rob Smile

 

I'm not on facebook but I'm on msn - mcduff104@hotmail.co.uk

 

Grant


Post# 593471 , Reply# 48   5/1/2012 at 16:48 (4,376 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Aquarius WM25

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Well done Grant on the bearing replacement. These are the sort of pictures i enjoy looking at. Great job done!

Post# 593638 , Reply# 49   5/2/2012 at 11:03 (4,376 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

WOW! Looks like you have been busy! If you want i will post the WM12 Spider and bearing change photos. Well done!


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