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Post# 584620   3/23/2012 at 13:31 (4,388 days old) by andyzanni ()        

Anyone had any experience of these? selling for 299 in currys, and my mum is in the market for a new machine.......

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Post# 584624 , Reply# 1   3/23/2012 at 13:43 (4,388 days old) by HotpointFan (United Kingdom)        
Mixed Opinions

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Not the best machine available, for that kind of money you could try a Bosch, but if you want a Hoover, get a Candy instead as they are better :-)

Which machine is it replacing? Please can you post a photo? Thanks.


Post# 584628 , Reply# 2   3/23/2012 at 14:00 (4,388 days old) by jetsystem1200 ()        

How about the Zanussi ZWH7122J? It's only £279 from John Lewis!

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Post# 584641 , Reply# 3   3/23/2012 at 16:01 (4,388 days old) by dave886 (united kingdom)        

get a beko 9kg washing machine BEKO WMB91442LW, its great value for money and a lot better than hoover dynamic.


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Post# 584643 , Reply# 4   3/23/2012 at 16:15 (4,388 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Looks like a nice machine. Seen a few reviews where some people have had problems. Thats the only negative. The 8kg drum on this isn't as big as some competitor 8kg but its worth a try.

Post# 584657 , Reply# 5   3/23/2012 at 17:41 (4,388 days old) by marthalover4eve ()        
hotpointfan

hoover and candy are the same

Post# 584669 , Reply# 6   3/23/2012 at 18:34 (4,388 days old) by andyzanni ()        
zjt

maybe a za nussi jetsystem would be a better choice?

Post# 584705 , Reply# 7   3/23/2012 at 23:56 (4,388 days old) by dave886 (united kingdom)        

well go for the zanussi jetsystem then:), but personally if i only had 300 to spend (im not saying its your budget) i would go with the beko, because i used to own a zanussi jetsystem made in 2001 and the machine ran flawless unil it reach to its 4th birthday when the control boards started to malfunction bearing started going, the pump started going, plus these days the new zanussi range are very cheaply made no better than a hotpoint, from a personal opinion

@aeg that was a beko 9kg model 1400rpm


Post# 584759 , Reply# 8   3/24/2012 at 09:59 (4,387 days old) by dascot (Scotland)        

Or you could go for one of the John Lewis branded Electrolux machines that come with a 3 year warranty on them as standard.

Post# 585167 , Reply# 9   3/26/2012 at 13:33 (4,385 days old) by FL1012 ()        
Zanussi.....



Post# 585168 , Reply# 10   3/26/2012 at 13:35 (4,385 days old) by FL1012 ()        
Zanussi.....

If you're spending under £300 then i'd probably have a Zanussi. I certainly wouldn't be getting a Hoover. Their older Nextra's and related Candy's (badged as Activa Smart) were ok but the Hoover Dynamic, Vision HD & Optima and Candy Grand O's are far from floorless. Many owner reviews state them being delivered with programmer faults, which is just unnacceptable given that they're not usually a particular bargain.

Beko are ok but if we're talking longevity there's nothing to suggest a Beko would outlive a Zanussi, quite the opposite in fact. Beko make most sence as a bargain machine for under £220 - the more expensive ones add extra options & programs or spin speed & drum size, the increase in price doesn't mean it's a better built Beko than the cheap ones.

That Zanussi ZWH7122J is a good price, especially from John Lewis with a 2 year warranty. Not sure if the 1200 Jetsystem gets the quieter inverter motor - the other motors can be abit grumbly - but i'm sure 7kg & 1200 rpm is ample for most people.

The only other make i'd suggest is Gorenje. Made in Slovenia & often available with 5 year warranty's in the UK, but i dunno if this extends to Northern Ireland. They're available in smaller independant retailers rather than Comet, John Lewis etc.

Liam


Post# 585451 , Reply# 11   3/28/2012 at 08:56 (4,383 days old) by zodawash (Lincolnshire,United Kingdom)        
Hoover

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I'd avoid the Hoover if I were you. There are better things to spend nearly £300 pounds on. Just have a look through ebay at how many broken recent models there are. Usually quite a few. Bearing failure and pcb failures usually. Hoovers used to be quite strong on bearings like the Six range, Nextra and Candy Smart range but seem to have lost their way. No way of replacing the bearings either.

Spend the £299 on something with a 2 year plus warranty as well. As above, John Lewis Zanny or something along those lines


Post# 585472 , Reply# 12   3/28/2012 at 11:45 (4,383 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)        
I like it... then I would!

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As an extremely happy Candy-Hoover customer... I can confidently say that that's would probably be my next model of washer.

I was encouraged to go for another Candy after the positive impression made by my Candy dishwasher in 2003, so... when I needed to replace my Zanussi back in 2004 I considered this brand once more. I couldn’t get a Candy then I bought a Hoover Nextra. Back then there was exactly the same negativity from some about this brand... but I ventured into it and I ended up with many years of peace of mind and trouble free service (which is still ongoing for both dishwasher and washer).

There's a general trend involving cost cutting with all manufactures... and a tendency to build 'disposable' products... yes, I am referring to sealed tubs as some1 has already mentioned... and some brands even integrate the drain pump within the tub. I guess, one day in the future rumours will adjust to something like... "Hoover Visions/Dynamics were good washers, but today Hoover bakes rubbish!".

There are lots of reviews on many review/appliance sites and the ones I've seen resemble closely to praises and words of satisfaction (some bad ones too as for any other product)... still... all of these reviews must be taken often with a pinch of salt as people write them only after a few weeks of ownership (how telling can that be?).

As for eBay, I don't see neither Hoover or Candy to be more present than Hotpoint, Indesit, Zanussi, Bosch and so forth... try to search for washers for spares and repairs or faulty washing machines and you'll see what I mean. But even that can be misleading... all these brands are the most popular around here and you’re bound to find them on similar sites.

Having said that, please do your own research... I wouldn't want you to get a lemon and blame me for it :-P

PS: I have been positively biwitched by this group and I recently added even more appliances (fridge-freezer and microwave) from them and I can say... so far so good... but it's still to early to talk about reliability with these ones.


Post# 585475 , Reply# 13   3/28/2012 at 12:01 (4,383 days old) by HotpointFan (United Kingdom)        
Haxisfan

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From an owner of a 25 year old Candy fridge freezer (now at nanas) I do take the same look as Candy as you do, but maybe not with as much gentleness as you do :)

I was eying up the Candy Grand'O GOF662 in a local family independent store, seriously considering it as the Bosch WF02865GB/01 we own at the moment has started rumbling, which has been identified by a fellow member as bearings.

If it is bearings, the insurance company won't fix it as it has already had 1 repair this year, for a new motor and brushes! Plus its an unworthwhile job, they quote, and have been told through local repairmen.

Also, I will be glad to see it go, its very boring to watch, hardly any water used, almost always unbalanced.

But, if you want your new washer to last as long as your Hotpoint WMA37 did, a Zanussi or a slightly cheaper John Lewis machine will do the trick, just avoid the Flexidose model, as they are made by Little Swan in Hong Kong/China. :P


Post# 585486 , Reply# 14   3/28/2012 at 13:07 (4,383 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Not all the Flexidose models are made in China. Mine, the ZWG7160p 1600rpm is made in the EU - so that could be Italy or Spain, most likely Spain. The ZWG1140M is the one that is made in China and the it hasn't done bad on customer reviews either. The ZWH6120P is made in Thailand and I know someone who has one for over a year and is used daily and not had any issues with it.

Just because something is made in China or Thailand doesn't make it inferior as most of the nations favourite electronics are made in the Far East and are reliable enough. The motors in Indesit washers are made in China and are just fine.

andyzanni,

The Flexi dose models are worth looking into, just be aware that the are quite sensitive to inbalances and can take a while to balance the load, which can be a little frustrating. We got ours for £280 at Christmas but its gone up to £369 now. but otherwise are a good buy but as others pointed out, the John Lewis range are good. I like the look of this Hoover machine & am curious myself as have never had a Hoover, but I dont need to buy another machine. You might be quite happy with it if you decided to get one :-)


Post# 585492 , Reply# 15   3/28/2012 at 13:51 (4,383 days old) by nrones ()        
Did you know...?

I recently started to educate myself on parts, build quality, and repairing of the modern machines, so I went through some biggest services in our country.. I've found out some interesting stuff, (with a proof) so, did you know...

1. That Electrolux group, Candy group, Indesit group, Fagor group use the one identical Askoll drain pump?

2. That Electrolux group uses motors made by company SOLE, Indesit by CE.SET, and Candy mixes from time to time, model to model between SOLE and CE.SET? Only 2 types of motors in all these machines?

3. They don't have the same PCB's, but lately, on all 3 of them they didn't make any problems..the newer ones..

4. All 3 of them have sealed tubs.

There were some more information I've got, but I don't think it's the right time and thread for them, so step by step :)

Dex


Post# 585500 , Reply# 16   3/28/2012 at 14:17 (4,383 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Andy, my Mum has just bought one of these and it's awesome.

Post# 585505 , Reply# 17   3/28/2012 at 14:27 (4,383 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

nrones,

You are correct, I saw an Askoll on our 2011 Indesit and the Zanussi I have now.

Indesit brush motors are by Welling Holding Limted in China, a company owned by the Midea Group Co Ltd. Zanussi brushed motors are made by Nidec Sole Motor Corporation srl.


Post# 585509 , Reply# 18   3/28/2012 at 14:31 (4,383 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Washer motors

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Indesit company use a lot of Welling motors & Candy group use a lot of Haier branded motors on their washers because i unpack these everyday, taking note of the make of the motor.

Post# 585579 , Reply# 19   3/28/2012 at 19:27 (4,383 days old) by grando ()        
Candy...

Yes, my Candy's got a Haier motor.

Post# 585588 , Reply# 20   3/28/2012 at 20:27 (4,383 days old) by FL1012 ()        
Zanussi Origins.....

As aeg03 said, it's predominantly the ZWG1140M Zanussi machine (see link below) that's manufactured outside of the EU & i don't think it's badged as Flexi-Dose. It seems to be a well-performing machine too, from what owners reviews say.

I wasn't aware that any other Zanussi's were made outside of the EU but if people have experience of that being the case then i guess this means it's worthwhile checking the label inside the door. Usually on Zanussi machines it states 'Made in EU' so if it doesn't then that might be a hint that it's Chinese model. Either way, there's no suggestion yet that the current range are any less durable than the previous 'Essential' badged machines, such as the Spanish-built one my Parents have owned since late 2007. On Flexi-Dose (but not Jetsystem) machines the pump is mounted on the outer tub which appears to be a cost-cutting measure, but pump failure on all modern machines seems alot less likely than bearing & electronic failure, so i wouldn't be overly concerned. As mentioned, many brands share the same durable drain pumps anyway.

At the current reasonable prices it's probably worth spending the extra on a Jetsystem as it does without the quirky new filter in the drum & appears to have less modifications than the Flexi-Dose models, but in any case i'd be fairly confident that whilst some Hoover/Candy owners are highly satisfied with their machines, Zanussi's products still appear to please more people more of the time & can cost less to purchase too.

With that in mind the odds to begin to stack against Hoover-Candy for all but the most loyal customers.

Liam


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Post# 585600 , Reply# 21   3/28/2012 at 21:17 (4,383 days old) by grando ()        

The Chinese Zanussi's are actually rebadged Midea/ Little Swan...

Post# 585959 , Reply# 22   3/30/2012 at 16:54 (4,381 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Machines Made In China

I noticed that LG are made in China. I looked at the rating plate on mine and says, Made In China, not happy. lol

Post# 585961 , Reply# 23   3/30/2012 at 16:58 (4,381 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
My Lg

My Lg

Post# 585962 , Reply# 24   3/30/2012 at 17:02 (4,381 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Korean to be precise!!

Post# 585963 , Reply# 25   3/30/2012 at 17:06 (4,381 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

newave1

Paulinroyton is correct, his LG is made in China. I wanted this model but didn't have enough for it at Christmas. Great machines.


Post# 585964 , Reply# 26   3/30/2012 at 17:09 (4,381 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
NewWave

Hi Darren.

It was my Mums machine, but only noticed the rating plate the other day. Good machine though, very quiet.

Manage to see the AEG which I hated.


Post# 585965 , Reply# 27   3/30/2012 at 17:10 (4,381 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Whoops Spelling Mistake

Should read sell, lol

Post# 585970 , Reply# 28   3/30/2012 at 17:22 (4,381 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Oh I didn't know that!

Wonder if that's a recent change on LG's part. Mine was made in Korea.

Darren


Post# 585971 , Reply# 29   3/30/2012 at 17:28 (4,381 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
LG

Hi Darren.

Yeah my LG deffo says made in China. I wonder if the more expensive LG machines are also made in China.


Post# 585987 , Reply# 30   3/30/2012 at 19:53 (4,381 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
LG

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Is it just me or are LG washers ugly looking machines

Post# 586039 , Reply# 31   3/31/2012 at 05:02 (4,380 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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I think the TOL ones are stunning in black. Hence I bought one. Now my Ex is having the pleasure of its use!!

I don't think the BOL ones are too pretty minus the chrome door.



Post# 586046 , Reply# 32   3/31/2012 at 06:12 (4,380 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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LG F1479FDS5

It says Made in Korea on ours. I like the look of LG washing machines, well it sure does make a statement in the kitchen!

The chrome door isn't available anymore on the steam washing machines as they have the door with the black tint.


Post# 586113 , Reply# 33   3/31/2012 at 13:15 (4,380 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

They are nice looking machines. Theres something different about them from the others which I like. They stand out.

Post# 586256 , Reply# 34   4/1/2012 at 02:20 (4,380 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
The Rating Plate

Here is a photo of the rating plate on my LG. No its not an Aprils fools joke, its deffo made in China, lol.

Post# 586351 , Reply# 35   4/1/2012 at 10:38 (4,379 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        
April Fools Joke

I think the joke is calling it a "Fully Automatic Washing Machine".

They could just as easily have called it an "Automatic Washing Machine", which would make it distinguishable compared to, say, a "Semi-automatic Washing Machine" (i.e. a twin-tub).

With "Fully...", I expect the machine to load itself, dose the detergent, wash, rinse, spin, dry, iron, fold, place in wardrobe/cupboard/chest-of-drawers, clean the dishes, put the bin out, wash the floor, and feed the cat.


Post# 586392 , Reply# 36   4/1/2012 at 12:42 (4,379 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Rolls Rapide

It does make a great Chinese take away, lol

Post# 586654 , Reply# 37   4/2/2012 at 13:26 (4,378 days old) by FL1012 ()        
Not Happy.....

I'd not be happy with buying a Chinese (or even Korean) made appliance given the current global situation. So much of the products we buy are made in China (Clothes, TV's, Kitchen appliances) & it doesn't sit comfortably with me to buy so much from one Country, especially given how much China (and India & Korea) seems to be booming while Europe goes bust.

There's a whole World out there, so in the absence of being able to support the UK appliance sector (as we don't make washers here anymore) i'd want to at least support European jobs.

Ofcourse if you're in the market for an Oven, Fridge-Freezer or Tumble Dryer then you can buy British-Made:

*Ovens - Stoves/Belling (Glen Dimplex Home Appliances, Prescot, Merseyside)
*Fridge/Freezers - Lec (Glen Dimplex Home Appliances, Prescot, Merseyside)
*Tumble Dryers - White Knight (Crosslee PLC, Halifax, West Yorkshire)

I'll certainly be buying from at least one of these manufacturers when i get my next house. It's just a shame that no washers are British-Made.

Liam


Post# 586666 , Reply# 38   4/2/2012 at 14:35 (4,378 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Lec

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Don't think Lec refrigeration are made here in the Uk, aren't most of them made by Haier for Glen Dimplex in China.

Post# 586744 , Reply# 39   4/2/2012 at 19:54 (4,378 days old) by FL1012 ()        
Dunno.....

Thought i saw some recent ones with Made in Britain on them. Might be wrong though. I knew White Knight's washers & dishwashers were made elsewhere but thought Lec stuff was still British-Made.

I won't be getting one if they're actually a Haier, that's for sure. Will have to have a nosey in some shops and see if i can see any clues to their origin.

So annoying that you can't buy a complete set of British made appliances anymore.


Post# 586818 , Reply# 40   4/3/2012 at 05:06 (4,377 days old) by HotpointFan (United Kingdom)        
FL1012

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To your made in Britain dryers list - the Hotpoint/Indesit compact dryers are made at the Indesit factory in Yate.


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