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New Video: The 1971 Simpson fully programmed Fluid Drive - Full cycle
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Post# 584890   3/25/2012 at 02:48 (4,413 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        

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Hi guys

Thought i'd share a video of one of the Aussie Simpson Fluid Drives i've been working on. It's a 1971 fully programmed model with the plastic liner in the solid tub.

There's an introduction from myself on camera and i'm explaining aspects of the machine throughout the video.

Please be aware the video is the full cycle and therefore 42 mins long, so may take a while to download.

The history of this machine is that i bought it for AU$1.00 ONE dollar off ebay, although it was a bit more for freight from NSW. I've had to patch up a couple of holes in the outer tub, the bushes in the agitator shaft will need replacing at some stage (which is the knocking during agitation) and i'd like to get the whole inner bowl out at some stage to clean the outer bowl. The screws are NOT easy to remove.

However, i've done enough for a demonstration. Nathan and Steve are coming over next Sunday for lunch and demonstration in person.

Cheers
Leon






Post# 584891 , Reply# 1   3/25/2012 at 03:05 (4,413 days old) by Streakers (Columbus Ohio)        
Cannot Wait

Till next weekend Leon to see this beast in the metal!!

Seems that the patch job on the outer tub has done the trick for the moment! great vid!


Post# 584896 , Reply# 2   3/25/2012 at 04:34 (4,413 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
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Is this the one that came from Berry that I saw and commented about after you got it?

Post# 584897 , Reply# 3   3/25/2012 at 04:42 (4,413 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Machine in Berry

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Hey chris
Yes, thats the machine you saw waiting to be delivered in Berry
Leon


Post# 584900 , Reply# 4   3/25/2012 at 05:29 (4,413 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia)        
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Hi Leon,

Great vid, brings me back to my childhood when my mum had a semi automatic Simpson. After the Simpson we got a Wilkins Servis with the grey control panel with 10 programmes. They were great washing machines those fluid drives, my next favourite were the Westinghouse Laundromat top loaders.


Post# 584901 , Reply# 5   3/25/2012 at 05:39 (4,413 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Simpson & Wilkins Servis...

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Hey Rod

I probably have the semi-automatic Simpson your mum had...or something similar and i know the Wilkins Servis she had....that was the 400 series, which i'll be getting one of later this year!

Cheers
Leon


Post# 584904 , Reply# 6   3/25/2012 at 07:00 (4,413 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)        
Great video!!!

Thanks for sharing.

The agitation stroke reminds me of Norge or Speed Queen.

That's an interesting machine. What does "fluid drive" mean? I have often wondered.

Jerry Gay


Post# 584917 , Reply# 7   3/25/2012 at 09:21 (4,413 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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Leon - Thanks for sharing - that is one interesting machine - so much like the American speed queen. But the adj looks like the wizard. Is it actually doing a overflow rinse while the water is recirculating? And on all cycles does the wash speed slow down the last 3 minutes? And is their a way to adjust the wash times for more or less times? Is this machine using a timed or metered fill? So interesting. Can we see a more closeup of the console?
Best Wishes,
Peter



Post# 584928 , Reply# 8   3/25/2012 at 10:15 (4,413 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

Easyspindry: A fluid drive is a form of a clutch that uses oil to seperate the driving and driven members instead of dry, solid clutch plates. The power is tranferred from the driving member which is driven by the motor, via the oil, to the driven member which is attached to the spin basket. This provides the slippage needed at the beginning of the spin so that the motor isn't strained trying to spin a tub full of water, and yet can run at nearly full speed to drive the drain pump. It is very much the same idea as a torque converter in a car. It is also known as a viscous drive, or a wet clutch.

Post# 584975 , Reply# 9   3/25/2012 at 12:51 (4,413 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        
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Thanks for making this video, awesome machine!

Post# 584991 , Reply# 10   3/25/2012 at 13:35 (4,413 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Very cool Leon. Nice to see you're keeping busy!

Ben


Post# 585000 , Reply# 11   3/25/2012 at 14:27 (4,413 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Hey Leon, GREAT video and really unique machine!   It's very interesting how it fills the outer tub first and then pumps it to the inner tub!   The only problem I see with that is if you are washing in "hot" a fair amount of the heat will be absorbed by the outer tub before getting to the cloths.   But still a very neat machine!

 

Thanks so much for posting!

Kevin


Post# 585007 , Reply# 12   3/25/2012 at 15:08 (4,413 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
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Hi Peter

Here's a close up of the control panel.

Some answers to your questions:

1) No, there's no overflow rinse, it's recirculating the wash and rinse water through the lint filter.

2) Only on the 'Non colour fast' and 'Heavy Soil' cycles does the last 3 minutes use the slow speed.

3) In the Fully programmed models, there's no way to adjust the times, only in lesser models

4) It's a metered fill.

Cheers
LEon


Post# 585014 , Reply# 13   3/25/2012 at 15:53 (4,413 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Leon

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With regard to shortening the wash portion of the cycle.

When she starts washing, can't you press 'start' again to advance the timer part way through and then let her constinue? Or does that actually make the timer advance to the next part of the sequence?


Post# 585018 , Reply# 14   3/25/2012 at 16:00 (4,413 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Leon

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With regard to shortening the wash portion of the cycle.

When she starts washing, can't you press 'start' again to advance the timer part way through and then let her continue? Or does that actually make the timer advance to the next part of the sequence?


Post# 585020 , Reply# 15   3/25/2012 at 16:10 (4,413 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Yes....my correction

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Hey Chris

Yes of course, you are correct....with the 'rapid advance' feature, you can shorten the wash cycle or skip portions and of the cycle altogether.


The way Peter described it, i thought he might have meant shortening the wash time like you can with a manual timer.

Cheers
Leon


Post# 585050 , Reply# 16   3/25/2012 at 21:41 (4,412 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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Thanks Leon for the information, it is a awsome washer.
Peter


Post# 585069 , Reply# 17   3/25/2012 at 22:28 (4,412 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
What a Beautiful Machine

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So Speed Queen Classic sounds and Agitator Stroke.

Love the Rhythem and Solenoid Bangs too. Thanks for the Vids Leon.


Post# 585087 , Reply# 18   3/25/2012 at 23:21 (4,412 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Great video Leon, thank you for doing that.  It was interesting to see how similar yet so different the Simpson is.  Almost like an alternative universe so to speak.  Fascinating!


Post# 585300 , Reply# 19   3/27/2012 at 08:58 (4,411 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Super cool, Leon! Love that wash-action, too. What is the small black circle under the lid by the filter flume?

Thanks for the video - very enjoyable!


Post# 585349 , Reply# 20   3/27/2012 at 16:02 (4,411 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Lovely machine there Leon and a great vid of it in action, that agitation is very vigerous on full speed, you look at the ribbed tub and it looks a much older machine than the much more modern looking rapid advance timeline control panel....

Post# 585355 , Reply# 21   3/27/2012 at 16:30 (4,411 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
small black circle...

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Hey Gansky

That black circle is a 'testing port' for the full flume. The idea was that you could 'test' the water being filled into the outer tub and adjust it accordingly, if you so desired. God knows why!

Mike: Yes, i suppose that's true re: the design of the control panel.

Oh...and by the way Mike....i'm having a machine shipped over from New Zealand that you and other UK members will have a particular interest in!!! Don't ask me WHEN it's arriving, i only paid for the shipping 2 weeks ago.


Cheers
Leon



Post# 585389 , Reply# 22   3/27/2012 at 21:33 (4,410 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Leon

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I have to confess that my mother regular tested the incoming water temperature and was known to adjust how hard the taps were on to alter the mix of hot and cold depending if she wanted a warmer or cooler, 'warm' wash.

Post# 585390 , Reply# 23   3/27/2012 at 21:39 (4,410 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Well...there you go

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Chris,

I take my hat off to your mother, she obviously cared about her laundry enough to do that. I somehow doubt there would have been that many like her, but i could be wrong.

Cheers
Leon


Post# 585393 , Reply# 24   3/27/2012 at 22:01 (4,410 days old) by AutoWasherFreak ()        

Nice machine, great wash action!


Post# 585431 , Reply# 25   3/28/2012 at 06:59 (4,410 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

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Well she turned out a son who likes doing laundry, so that part kinda makes sense...

The other thing that it was good for, was adding fabric conditioner into the wash. I think I'm right that the recirculation pump pushes the water through the lint filter past this too, so pouring fabric conditioner in this way 'premixes' via the lint filter to ensure you don't get it undiluted on clothes.


Post# 585482 , Reply# 26   3/28/2012 at 12:50 (4,410 days old) by MaytagA710 ()        

Leon, this is a fantastic machine! Sounds great, and looks very brisk while washing with that angel wing agi! Thanks for sharing!


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