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Post# 93688   11/13/2005 at 02:03 (6,731 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        

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machine have you ever used?

A few weeks ago I went to my local coin op and I used the Super Giant washer to wash my dad's pillows and boy-oh-boy this washer was a monster. I did not know who was the make because I am very familiar with Washcomats, Milnor, Speed Queens, Dexter, ISOP, ETC..... This was a Clean-Rite agency here in the Brooklyn, NY area and it had it own name on the machine and let me tell you, if you went in with dirt and grime, I guarantee that it will be removed using their regular/normal cycle.

Pre-wash, main wash, bleach cycle and three rinses. There was no spinning between the first three section of the cycles but it did spin between the rinses.

I'm still amazed how aggressive this machine washed!

The interior looks like it can hold up to 50 pounds easily, four 4 inch wide blades and 16 inch deep that mixed the load very well and enough water that could sink the USS Minnow!

If I had one favorite coin op machine that I loved to use, it would be a Hoyt.

1. Water level was halfway up the window for all cycles.
2. When it spinned, water always flowed down the glass while draining.
3. And it had the longest wash cycle compare to the original washcomats.

Out of all the Front loader coin op machines I ever used, this Clean-Rite was the most agressive washer I have ever seen!





Post# 93699 , Reply# 1   11/13/2005 at 04:48 (6,731 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Strange you saying water levels are half way up the window on all cycles. Our local laundromat workers tells me that if a NYC inspector comes around and can "see" water over a certian low point, the laundromat will be issued a violation regarding water usage.

The Wascomat and SQ laundromat washers I've used do not spin between the pre-wash/main wash and bleach either. Wonder if this is a owner programmed option or factory pre-set. Problem is that the pre-wash is always "cold" set by the mat owner. This means when selecting a "hot" wash it is not truly hot as there is lots of cold water left in the laundry from the previous cycle. Don't even ask about "warm" water washes.

Launderess


Post# 93708 , Reply# 2   11/13/2005 at 07:22 (6,731 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
More on coin-opearated public washing machine establishments

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Said:
Our local laundromat workers tells me that if a NYC inspector comes around and can "see" water over a certain low-point, the laundromat will be issued a violation regarding water usage.

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Wonder if that is a B/S response said to keep customers quiet. How can a business be issued a violation for wasting (paid-for) water when it is the essence of their service?Possible, but I'm thinking not too likely.

I know tht NYC laundromats MUST have a water-pressure reducing valve on the main water line. So that brings us to the next quesiton; is there any way that these commerical machines have a timed-fill rather than a sensed water level? If they use a sensed water level the water pressure reducing valve is a joke, and serves no purpose except perhaps to keep hoses intact. WELL OK, maybe if there are spray rinses, but I can't recall these in a laundromat brand machine.


Post# 94057 , Reply# 3   11/15/2005 at 08:13 (6,729 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
water levels

Jeff told me this about his commercial Philco/Bendix/Dexter washer. There is a water pressure switch, BUT in the deep rinses the timer is not held by the water level switch. The rinse lasts its alloted time whether the pressure switch is satisfied or not.

One coin-op near us had those Milnors with the stainless steel tank that sat on an avocado base. Those machines went from tumble to a slow spin before opening the drain valve to distribute the load and it worked quite well. There was all kinds of water swirling down the window as it did its spin-drain. Then it shifted into the high speed spin.


Post# 94069 , Reply# 4   11/15/2005 at 11:14 (6,728 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        
customers will complain

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I think most customers would start complaining if they didn't see enough water in the machine. This has been a staple to commercial laundrymats over the years and as for hot water usage, I think they use leaves to fire the furnace for the water is pee warm for hot if you call 95* hot!

Post# 94074 , Reply# 5   11/15/2005 at 12:42 (6,728 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Coin-op SQ do not have a bleach dispenser or a bleach rinse. Nor do Dexter, Maytag, Unimac, Ipso or Primus.

Coin-op Wascomats prior to the latest Generation 6 models do not have a bleach dispenser or a bleach rinse. The Gen 6 washer do have a bleach dispenser, but the dispenser compartment is meant for all liquid products for the main wash. Whatever is in that compartment, bleach, detergent or both, is dispensed in the beginning of the main wash.

Continental is the only washer with a semblance of a bleach rinse, but their wash formula (cycle) is so strange that I can't quote exactly what happens when...

Disclaimer: these are for hardmount machines. The softmounts might be a big different.


Post# 94075 , Reply# 6   11/15/2005 at 12:52 (6,728 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Peter,

What makes the wash formula on the Continental-Girbau machines strange? I've heard that they do a short wash and a long first rinse, but I'm not sure if that's true or not.

Jon


Post# 94100 , Reply# 7   11/15/2005 at 15:43 (6,728 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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It's really wierd. If I remember:
3 minute wash
drain
5 minute wash
drain
1 minute rinse
drian
1 minute rinse
drain
spin
2 minute rinse
drain & spin

Best I know for sure: there were 5 water changes, the first 2 "washes" were short, and it only spun once between the rinses. These are beautiful machines, but very, very quirky in their operation and their construction. Every time I think I want them in my store, I go to a service school on them and hit myself saying "What are you thinking?!?!?!?!?"



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