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Thread Number: 39915
Lime scale In Washer-Dryer! |
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| Post# 591016 4/20/2012 at 12:02 (4,380 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK) | ||
Hey everyone,
Seeing there's hard water where I live, I've noticed lime scale building up in our Bosch Washer-Dryer. My only problem is, is there anything I could use to shift the lime scale, because I heard your not suppose to use lime scale agents on washer-dryer's? Is this a myth or is it actually true that this could harm the machine? Any tips or recommendations I could maybe use, I'd appreciate the help. Thanks for reading, Hass. | ||
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Post# 591024 , Reply# 1 4/20/2012 at 12:40 (4,380 days old) by foraloysius  (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Try using citric acid. I had great results with it. Click on the link and scroll down that thread to see the result of doing a 95*C cycle with one or two tablespoons.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK | ||
| Post# 591029 , Reply# 2 4/20/2012 at 13:06 (4,380 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK) | ||
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Post# 591030 , Reply# 3 4/20/2012 at 13:12 (4,380 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Hassan,
Citric acid is safer than a lot of other descalers. I started using it for my Philips Senseo. You're supposed to use citric acid for those only, other descalers are too harsh for Senseos. It depends on the hardness of your water how often you need to use it I guess. How old is your washer/dryer now? | ||
| Post# 591053 , Reply# 4 4/20/2012 at 14:44 (4,380 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK) | ||
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Post# 591056 , Reply# 5 4/20/2012 at 14:59 (4,380 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 591059 , Reply# 6 4/20/2012 at 15:37 (4,380 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK) | ||
White Vinegar | ||
| Post# 591061 , Reply# 7 4/20/2012 at 15:42 (4,380 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK) | ||
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Louis...
Well, I'm running a maintenance cycle as we speak, luckily I brought some citric acid today (for the kettle) and followed your instructions. Already the water has gone grey so it must be taking effect. Thank you for your help Louis, shall let you know how I got on.
Thank you Zanussi_lover, shall bare that in mind ;) | ||
| Post# 591084 , Reply# 8 4/20/2012 at 18:57 (4,380 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK) | ||
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| Post# 591092 , Reply# 9 4/20/2012 at 19:47 (4,379 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
Hard water | ||
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Post# 591131 , Reply# 10 4/21/2012 at 00:30 (4,379 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 591157 , Reply# 12 4/21/2012 at 03:19 (4,379 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK) | ||
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Soda Crystals
If you have hard water, try doing a maintenence wash with soda crystals =] this helps to remove the grease and limescale and every time you do a wash, add some soda crystals to the drawer with your washing powder/Liquid
you will use much less detergent, and the soda crystals act as a water softener and also a stain remover as well. | ||
| Post# 591164 , Reply# 13 4/21/2012 at 05:34 (4,379 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
Hass,
Citric Acid is definitely the way to go, Im amazed you got some though lol Im told by our local chemists that they wont sell it due to shady characters buying it to "Cut" more than their laundry detergent powders LOL. Having restored many machines over the years I can say that or a proprietory Appliance descaler works, Have found a brilliant one that works out far cheaper than any of those dedicated washing machine ones and works a whole lot better. Killrock K i think its called if you ever see it, great for descaling everything and works a treat. Dont feel your damaging your machine, a couple more repeat applications will certainly help, concentrate on getting the scale out before the muck, most of the grease will wash away with the acid on a boil wash (the packets say use 60 but the 90 is way more effective), but you can always add a good cupful of Finish Dishwasher powder (200ml) and run it on a boil again which will leave the machine spotless. I say about 200mls of DW powder, just remeber its the dilution your looking for, DW uses about 30ml powder to 4 litres of water compared to the washer using 15 or so litres. It really works and damages nothing. Vinegar wont do anything in the washing machine, you need it neat to de scale a kettle and sometimes the acid content is never enough anyway to do that let alone a washing machine with gallons of water diluting it. The TV queens of clean reccommend vinegar yes, but then Elf and Safety probably states what they can reccommend to use to the public these days as a pacifying method. Soda crystals have been well discussed here and are not a good idea to use with laundry constantly as they are harsh on clothes and lead to rotting of fibres. One off apllications are ok but most detergents alone are enough when used in the correct dosages as stated on the pack, you can get away with a little less its trial and error until you find the balance. The best way to soften water and protect your machine is by having a water softener installed or one of those electronic devices that wraps round the water entry pipe to the house. That means all the house water is soft. Soft water for laundry is one thing and a small amount of powder may initially remove the soil but not using enough powder to hold soils in the water only means they get re deposited back on in the wash. So always stick to the advice on the side of the packets! | ||
| Post# 591172 , Reply# 14 4/21/2012 at 07:17 (4,379 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK) | ||
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Wash Day Blues...
Hey guys really appreciate your comments and feed back, through out the years I've heard so many different ways to do get rid of lime scale, but instinctively I've not trusted any of those suggestions in the past. And I've never been keen to use vinegar, instinctively it never felt right, other wise I would of done it by now. Thanks to Louis, Citric Acid does indeed work, though it does need another few goes to get it spick and span.
Rob: I'm defiantly going to follow your method as well, I like the sound of adding DW powder, giving it that extra clean to get rid of grease and scum. Not to mention the dead fluff that it's collected over the years, whilst drying clothes in the washer/dryer. Rob, and to those of you who's wondering where to get "Citric Acid" in your high street supermarket, just buy "Scale Away" which is used for kettles, coffee machines and shower heads. (who ever branded that product should re-evaluate it) I was indeed lucky that I brought Scale Away yesterday, which I intended to use for the kettle and used it on the machine instead, after Louis suggestion. I plan to get some more later today as I won't rest until it's fully removed, along with DW powder afterwards :) Now I know this, I will run a maintenance cycle every six weeks. I will look in to Killrock K, in the next coming days Rob, thanks for the recommendation. I'm very fussy when it comes to doing laundry and looking after my machine. I always use the correct amount of washing powder, most of my Laundry is done in 60/90c. I've always ran the maintenance cycle with detergent and clean the machine once a month, but no matter how I followed instructions, it never fully shifted the limescale or dirt. Now my wash day blues are now over and now I can wash with confidence again. Shall update you all later, thanks everyone xx | ||
| Post# 591174 , Reply# 15 4/21/2012 at 07:25 (4,379 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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Hass
Those scale away sachets are pretty much ok for a kettle full of water but way too diluted for the machine. Adding the 8 or so sachets to remove limescale is going to cost a fortune. That Kilrock stuff is about £2 a bottle and do about 3 limescale removal programs which is what your going to need to remove it all. Far easier to use that LOL. | ||
| Post# 591176 , Reply# 16 4/21/2012 at 07:32 (4,379 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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Just had a look for the Kilrock stuff online and its seems you can only get it in 400ml bottles now for about £3 or so. The 1 litre bottle I got from Aldi was £2. Ive not seen it for a good while in there though.
Still the whole 400ml Bottle in a hot wash will go a long way to removing it completely especially if you heat the machine up and pause it for a while to let it soak the scale off the heater. Might be better than multiple repeat applications. Its never failed me with scaled up machines Its strong stuff :) Tried that Indesit descaler stuff too and its poor in relation, that was a waste of cash too. | ||
| Post# 591199 , Reply# 18 4/21/2012 at 10:44 (4,379 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK) | ||
Descaling......
Hey Guys
As someone said above Kilrock is fantastic stuff and not that expensive.... May just order sone Citric Acid online tho....... Seamus CLICK HERE TO GO TO SeamusUK's LINK on eBay | ||
| Post# 591238 , Reply# 19 4/21/2012 at 15:37 (4,379 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN) | ||
I know that manufacturers have, for years, made dishwashers with built-in water softeners. Has anyone ~ever~ made a washing machine with a built-in softener? It doesn't seem like it would be that much to ask to have to refill a salt reservoir a few times a year in order to have top-notch washing results in hard water (and without the need for any phosphates.)
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| Post# 591243 , Reply# 20 4/21/2012 at 16:24 (4,379 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK) | ||
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Hey guys, Rob... lol sorry I wasn't around to read the rest of the posts, spent all day cleaning the house and did another maintenance wash, and divvy here brought more "scale away" only to learn it almost shifted all the limescale, so from 75%, it's gone to 85%. So you can imagine after all that, I'm a little disappoint, that I didn't wait another couple of minutes to read further posts made on this thread. Oh well, least I've learnt from my mistakes and teach's me not to be impatient as well lol.
But not to worry, I will buy some Kilrock in the next coming days Rob and then go from there... thanks for your recommendations and tips. Once again thanks everyone :) | ||
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Post# 591251 , Reply# 21 4/21/2012 at 17:16 (4,379 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Killrock K 
If you are unable to get any or at least any at a decent price try looking at a Catering Suppliers, I know for a fact you can buy a gallon of dishwasher descaler it works in all appliances with heaters and calcium build up cannot remember the cost but its worth every penny.
You may want to look into water softeners for glass washers too as they are large salt pots like dishwashers have inside but sit outside the machine and you can attach the inlet pipe to it you would have to salt every week with the amount of water a washer pulls through but if you gave it some thought you may be able to fashion a device that uses the salted/softened water to wash then tap for rinsing as its the heating that causes the scale I believe. Austin | ||
| Post# 591352 , Reply# 22 4/22/2012 at 12:22 (4,378 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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