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Philco Restoration Part 2 and a note of Thanks........
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Post# 94174   11/16/2005 at 01:17 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

First, let me say a quick note of thanks to the people who sent cards, emails or phone calls during my illness this past year, you are all true and loyal friends and its much appreciated!
Last summer I had done the mechanical restoration on my 1966 Philco washer, but never got around to doing the cabinet or putting it back together until this past week.
People have asked how I paint a cabinet myself and get good results. First off I start with sanding and priming the case using light grey primer:





Post# 94175 , Reply# 1   11/16/2005 at 01:19 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Here is a pix of the inside of the Philco washer cabinet. Philco always sprayed the inside of their washer cabinets with undercoating, for rust prevention and also for sound proofing. When running, Philco's are very quiet...........

Post# 94176 , Reply# 2   11/16/2005 at 01:23 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

One of the tricks to get the paint to cover uniformly is to make sure the paint is very well mixed in the can. There is usually a little ball inside the paint can, that rattles when shook, to help with that. I cant stress enough how important it is to make sure the paint is properly mixed. I usually shake a can of paint for 15min, minimum. I got the idea to use something on hand to mix the paint for me, and here is one of my secrets........now dont laugh IT WORKS!!!!

Post# 94177 , Reply# 3   11/16/2005 at 01:29 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

I use ACE Hardware White Lacquer paint. I have found it works very well, nice and shiny results. I have NOT had good results with epoxy paints OR the paints labeled "Appliance White" Im not sure why, but they dont seem to spray on as well, and look splotchy when applied. I also lay the case down, so that I have a FLAT surface when spraying. This way there are no runs! I let once side COMPLETELY dry before doing the next side. The other secret is to be patient and do 3 light coats rather than one big heavy coat of paint all at once.

Post# 94178 , Reply# 4   11/16/2005 at 01:30 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Here the cabinet is all painted and ready to be mated with the mechanism once again.......

Post# 94179 , Reply# 5   11/16/2005 at 01:31 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Case and mechanism back together again.......

Post# 94180 , Reply# 6   11/16/2005 at 01:32 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

New water valve installed......

Post# 94181 , Reply# 7   11/16/2005 at 01:33 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Next project is to get the top, lid and console back together.........

Post# 94182 , Reply# 8   11/16/2005 at 01:34 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Top and console assembled and back on the washer......

Post# 94183 , Reply# 9   11/16/2005 at 01:35 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Now begin to route the wiring and hook up the electrical connections.......

Post# 94184 , Reply# 10   11/16/2005 at 01:36 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Timer and controls reinstalled.....

Post# 94185 , Reply# 11   11/16/2005 at 01:37 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Having the factory book and diagrams is invaluable!

Post# 94186 , Reply# 12   11/16/2005 at 01:38 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

I have Philco washer model W2G4, here are the specs for it as outlined in the factory manual.......

Post# 94187 , Reply# 13   11/16/2005 at 01:40 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

The wiring diagram was missing from the machine, but I had saved this manual for years as getting a Philco washer was always my dream. This helped immensely during the rewiring of the washer........

Post# 94188 , Reply# 14   11/16/2005 at 01:40 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

More wiring.........

Post# 94189 , Reply# 15   11/16/2005 at 01:41 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

All wired up, first test, does the light work? Yeah! It Does!!

Post# 94190 , Reply# 16   11/16/2005 at 01:42 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

All back together and ready to me mated with the matching dryer.......

Post# 94191 , Reply# 17   11/16/2005 at 01:44 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Moved them both in the laundry room, Im a very happy Philco owner..........

Post# 94192 , Reply# 18   11/16/2005 at 01:44 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Philco-Ford logo circa 1966

Post# 94193 , Reply# 19   11/16/2005 at 01:45 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Washer timer controls

Post# 94194 , Reply# 20   11/16/2005 at 01:46 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

More controls.........

Post# 94195 , Reply# 21   11/16/2005 at 01:47 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

the fabulous "Contourfill"

Post# 94196 , Reply# 22   11/16/2005 at 01:49 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Philco called its washing system "Blades of Water" and its agitator was the "Flex A Wash" What a glamorous washer!

Post# 94197 , Reply# 23   11/16/2005 at 01:50 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

cycle logo......

Post# 94198 , Reply# 24   11/16/2005 at 01:52 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

I redid the dryer last week, making one good complete dryer out of three that I had. They are as hard to find as the washers, but are a very good dryer and run especially quiet too.

Post# 94199 , Reply# 25   11/16/2005 at 01:53 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

This is the Philco "Sens A Dry" 4 cycle dryer. Got to love the marketing names they gave to all their designs~!

Post# 94200 , Reply# 26   11/16/2005 at 01:54 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Dryer controls

Post# 94201 , Reply# 27   11/16/2005 at 01:55 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Fabric selector.

Post# 94202 , Reply# 28   11/16/2005 at 01:55 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Porthole glass door with original factory sticker still on it.......

Post# 94203 , Reply# 29   11/16/2005 at 01:57 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Drop down front panel, to access lint filter. Notice the safety switch, that keeps the dryer from running with this panel open.

Post# 94204 , Reply# 30   11/16/2005 at 01:58 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Philco lint filter. Not one of their best ideas, as its rather cumbersome to access and empty.......

Post# 94205 , Reply# 31   11/16/2005 at 01:59 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

All done, ready for bed, and Philco night lights in the laundry room! thanks for looking! This is one of my favorite sets.

Post# 94207 , Reply# 32   11/16/2005 at 02:15 (6,735 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Philco Restoration

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Jimmy,
What a wonderful set. Best Of Luck!
Peter


Post# 94209 , Reply# 33   11/16/2005 at 02:24 (6,735 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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That's a wonderful set Jimmy, thanks for sharing the pictures.

Post# 94220 , Reply# 34   11/16/2005 at 06:27 (6,735 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        
WAY COOL

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WHAT A WONDER FULL SET..THEY LOOK FANTASTIC..COOL TO SEE SOMEONE ELSE TEARS EM DOWN AND MAKES THEM ALL NEW AGAIN..FANTASTIC JOB!!

Post# 94224 , Reply# 35   11/16/2005 at 07:02 (6,735 days old) by cybrvanr ()        

Great looking set, thanks for the paint tips! I find the relationship between Philco and Ford interesting. It seems to be a "me too" type thing to the GM-Fridigaire thing going on at the same time. It's too bad that Philco appliance division didn't survive to this day...that's a really nice, well-built machine you have there. Were they yet another casualty to WCI?

What I also find curious is that the "blue oval" Ford logo did not appear on automobiles between 1938 to 1986, when it made it first re-appearance on the Tarus. Ford however had no problem using it on other things


Post# 94229 , Reply# 36   11/16/2005 at 07:35 (6,735 days old) by jetaction (Minneapolis)        

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Jimmy you sure have gotten great with the camera and pics! Congrats on the nice job.

Post# 94231 , Reply# 37   11/16/2005 at 07:41 (6,735 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Jimmy, enjoy your wonderful machines. And thanks so much for the paint tips. Glad you are feeling better as well.

Steve


Post# 94236 , Reply# 38   11/16/2005 at 07:49 (6,735 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Wow! You'd never know this machine sat outside for 25 years now, it just sparkles. The paint tips are great, your paint shaker idea was brilliant.

Post# 94240 , Reply# 39   11/16/2005 at 08:06 (6,735 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

Beautiful job and great idea on the painting. BTW, according to Rich Hall the author of "Sniglets," the little mixing ball inside a can of spray paint is called a "glacket."

Post# 94244 , Reply# 40   11/16/2005 at 08:19 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Thanks all. Painting is an art and Ive had moderate success with both car and appliance painting. They really are the same, actually washers being much easier to paint. Keep in mind that 99% of all successful painting is surface preparation. Whether its a car OR an appliance, the first thing you do is SAND the surface lightly before priming. I then WET SAND the primed surface with at least #300 Wet/Dry sandpaper. I did three coats of paint on the Philco, letting it dry between each coat about an hour. It sounds like a lot of work, and it is, but the results are very rewarding knowing you did it yourself and did it well, and its much cheaper than having my car painter doing it. In all honesty, with a high pressure spray gun, my car painter does do a little bit better job. But when its back together and in place, it looks just fine. I didnt paint the Philco dryer at all, as it was not bad, and side by side the paint matches very well. Im no genius by any means, if I can do it, you can do it too!

Post# 94253 , Reply# 41   11/16/2005 at 09:13 (6,735 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Now we need to find you some fake wood grain for the control panel. Congrats! Hard to believe this was a farm machine!

What did you use for the dryer blower? Was there one good one in the 3 part donors?


Post# 94257 , Reply# 42   11/16/2005 at 09:30 (6,735 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Hi Peter! Remember the day that we moved these? They were right in the MIDDLE of a sea of washers! We had to move at least 20 or 30 washers to get these out.....
Yes I found another dryer locally that had a good fan on it. The fan was the weak spot of these dryers. It would collect lint, become unbalanced and then break the blades off it while running, which in turn would break the plastic fan housing. 2 of the dryers that I had were both broken. I used them for spare parts and saved the rest for the future, and made one complete dryer out of it all. I found the gas version of this dryer a year ago at the appliance junkyard that I go to, but didnt pick it up as I was then am still now completely out of room. Prob it has the same fan prob as the ones that you and I found in Aberdeen.


Post# 94259 , Reply# 43   11/16/2005 at 09:43 (6,735 days old) by drmitch ()        

Thanks for sharing the painting technique! Beautiful and interesting machines,Jimmy. You could also use the lint filter for a minnow bucket when you went fishing! :)

Post# 94260 , Reply# 44   11/16/2005 at 09:46 (6,735 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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And, Jimmy, I was sick when we left that last night, with about 5 Philco washers rolled out of the way and just left there because they were too far gone. I'm getting sick again now thinking about it! But you can't save everything... sigh!

Post# 94278 , Reply# 45   11/16/2005 at 11:16 (6,735 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Great photos! Thanks for sharing. You've done a remarkable job with the Philco. Glad you're feeling better, too. I really admire those of you at this site who do restorations. I hardly have the patience to paint a bedroom, much less dissemble an entire washer and deal with replacing/fixing parts and re-painting. My hat is off to you!!

Post# 94283 , Reply# 46   11/16/2005 at 11:36 (6,735 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Wow Jimmy, thanks so much for posting those great pictures! The machines look just beautiful and that's a perfect idea for shaking up the paint cans!

Post# 94289 , Reply# 47   11/16/2005 at 13:29 (6,734 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        

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Jimmy,
Thanks for the great pictures and detailed information. Your dedication to restoring these machines has really paid off. I think next to Frigidaire washers, the Philco "blades of water" agitator system comes in second (on my list anyway!). Congratulations on these fine machines. Patrick


Post# 94305 , Reply# 48   11/16/2005 at 16:04 (6,734 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Who'd have thunk it. I love that idea about shaking the cans on the agitator and I'm going to do it myself. I found a couple of those old metal school desks, kindergarten sized that have been languishing in my garage waiting to be spray painted.

Post# 94314 , Reply# 49   11/16/2005 at 17:16 (6,734 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Great job! They look better than showroom new! Congratulations!

kennyGF


Post# 94323 , Reply# 50   11/16/2005 at 18:17 (6,734 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jimmy a beautiful job is an understatement. And THANK YOU for the detailed pics of control panels. And see, a GM Frigidaire does have a redeeming value for you. I know they're not your favorite. Bob.

Post# 94325 , Reply# 51   11/16/2005 at 18:29 (6,734 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Bob, my washers are like pets or children. I love them all in their own special way. To say that Frigidaires are not my favorites is rather presumptuous. I like each and every brand, whether I have them or not for their virtues and their faults. No one brand is all things to all people. I have more Frigidaire sets than all my other washers. Unimatic set, 2 Multimatic sets, a Rollermatic set, and a 1-18. Its best to keep an open attitude to the engineering and design of mechanical things, and remember that unlike today, most companies were trying to make the best possible product they could, with design improvements every year.

Post# 94332 , Reply# 52   11/16/2005 at 20:00 (6,734 days old) by customline (pennsylvania)        
Now I get it!

It's the mixing of the paint that does it. I love to paint and restore too but was always too impatient to shake the can for more than two minutes. You have done great with the Philco washer cabinet and just with a spraycan! I never thought about wet sanding the primer. Do you also wet sand the paint after it dries? Also, do you ever use a car wax on your finishes? I used a Mcguire's three step wax system (cleaner,polish,wax finish) on my '56 Hotpoint fridge and it worked great! I'm going to go out and find a spray can shaker right away.

Post# 94342 , Reply# 53   11/16/2005 at 20:59 (6,734 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Hi Jimmy,
Thank you so much for sharing the wonderful photos with the detailed descriptions. It is great to see the step by step restorations on these rare machines. The paint job looks great too! So this washer came from the farm also? Looks brand new now,and a matched set even!
I did not know you had been ill,and I am glad that you are doing better. May 2006 be a better year for you. (:


Post# 94344 , Reply# 54   11/16/2005 at 21:02 (6,734 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

Jimmy- I can't get over the wonderful restoration and painting you did. There really is an art to this. Didn't realize you were ill this year but it is great to see that you are back in action. Thank you so much for the great pics and the advice. It will help many of us.

Post# 94355 , Reply# 55   11/16/2005 at 21:26 (6,734 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
B E A U T I F U L ! ! !

Jimmy,

What a beautiful restoration. Now you can Philcolate! These really were such cool machines. Nice Job!!! Mark


Post# 94356 , Reply# 56   11/16/2005 at 21:38 (6,734 days old) by jerseymike ()        
I'm glad that you're feeling better.

And thank you for not only saving these wonderful machine but for sharing the restoration process with us. (I love that blue tub on the washer.) I always thought that Philco had some of the most innovative and handsome machines. (I never knew anyone who owned a Philco, but I used to drool over the ones on display while window shopping at a Philco dealer that was located next to a drive in on the old Somerville Circle that my family and I used to frequent during drives in the country. I always used to get yelled at because I preferred window shopping to whatever it was that I had ordered for lunch and/or dinner.)

Thanks again!

Mike


Post# 94367 , Reply# 57   11/16/2005 at 23:03 (6,734 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Thanks Jimmy for sharing those pictures with all of us! It looks like you have done an outstanding job on them I love the night photo with their console lights glowing. I assume from the pictures that you moved these beauties into your basement laundry room. What a fun set to have. Congratulations!! Terry

Post# 94372 , Reply# 58   11/17/2005 at 01:14 (6,734 days old) by norgeman ()        
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Jimmy the Philco set is a job well done. Pat yourself on the back. What a ingenious way of mixing up a paint can I like that Idea. I was wondering if you could mix a gallon paint can on it as well? It would be like what a paint store does when mixing paint. That is way cool. Glad your feeling better now hope it continues will be praying for you. Dan

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Post# 94394 , Reply# 59   11/17/2005 at 08:42 (6,734 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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Okay, that is one totally cool washer! I'm becoming quite a Philco Phan!

Is it an optical illusion, or is that one bigass lid on the washer? And what does the original factory sticker on the dryer say?

Congrats on a swell restoration. "Countourfill". Gotta love it!

veg



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