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Westinghouse vs. White-Westinghouse
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Post# 94423   11/17/2005 at 15:20 (6,705 days old) by westingcan ()        

I've always wondered why Electrolux sells appliances in Austrailia under the original Westinghouse badge but uses the "White" Westinghouse name elsewhere. Surely you'd think with brand association, Westinghouse would get them more sales. Heck I'd buy Westinghouse appliances if I could just for the brand nostalgia. The westinghouse.au website is quite good - they really have some interesting looking appliances.




Post# 94437 , Reply# 1   11/17/2005 at 17:58 (6,705 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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my freind Bens family has just purchased a new Westinghouse 8kg Complete Care t/loader. It has a glass see thru lid and a detergent drawer. It rotates the stainless steel bowl as it fills and has the electrolux Eco Rinse option. All the controls are electronic and it has a countdown timer. It is a VERY cool looking machine and i will attempt to get some pics of it in action. It make no sound when it washing except for a small pulsing sound as the agitator reverses. A highly recommened Australian machine. And i think that Simpson (also run made by electolux) machines have always been seen as the most reliable, everyone i know has a simpson. Bens last machine was a simpson and his mum had had that machine for 14 years with little to no repairs.
And check out the westinghouse website, they have some good brochures on there.


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Post# 94492 , Reply# 2   11/17/2005 at 21:50 (6,705 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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I daresay, here, neither brand brings back GOOD nostalgic memories.

Post# 94512 , Reply# 3   11/17/2005 at 23:47 (6,705 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        

Westinghouse was owned by the Email company for many years until it was purchased by Electrolux. Email was licenced to manufacture Westinghouse for australia, similar to Whirlpool being manufactured by Malleys, which would explain why we have kept the old Westinghouse name and logo.

IMHO, Westinghouse have the BEST looking top loaders in the Australian market and that and Simpson make a decent machine for an affordable price that beats those clothes shredding Whirlpools anyday. After going from a Clothes shredding whirlpool back to a Simpson TL It was great. Of course now I have the HOOTAG which I love to bits.


Post# 94513 , Reply# 4   11/17/2005 at 23:47 (6,705 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        
Here is inside the 9kilo Westy.

Here is inside the Westy

Post# 94521 , Reply# 5   11/18/2005 at 02:06 (6,705 days old) by pulsatron ()        
agree about whirlpool

Yes Arroohhh,
I agree with you about the Whirlpool T.L.'S being clothes shredders as our last t.l. was a 6.5 kilo Whirlpool which we had for 3 years and we fou8nd it's washing action was very rough on the clothing,even on the gentler cycles it still ripped them around a bit then paused then ripped them around again so we got rid of it and changed to the front loader and do find the tumbling action is better.
I am not so sure about the Simpson being any better though, my neighbours have a large 7.5 kilo Simpson t.l. and sometimes do complain about threading on the edge of towels and so forth,I don't know anyone who has the W/House so I do not know if it's agitator action is any different or not.
Cheers. Steve.
P.S. no offence meant to our U.S. friends on here.


Post# 94537 , Reply# 6   11/18/2005 at 08:03 (6,704 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Wow, I love the looks of the Westinghouse TL'ers. I wish Electrolux would sell them in the US. The large window is great.

Post# 94618 , Reply# 7   11/18/2005 at 19:44 (6,704 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Oohh Arroooh

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Nice Tubulation and Topulation on that Westy! They should make that machine here.

Time to buy Omomatic for it!

I wonder if Electrolux over here owns the Westinghouse name when it bought out White Westinghouse? You never see any thing except Lightbulbs and Elevators labelled Westinghouse anymore.

Jet


Post# 94682 , Reply# 8   11/19/2005 at 01:44 (6,704 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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I thought I saw cheap and sh---y small appliances in a Target or K-mart kinda place.

Nukers, toasters and, clutch the pearls, Westinghouse brand Christmas lights.

UGH

Do they still make nuclear reactors? -seriously.



Post# 94693 , Reply# 9   11/19/2005 at 05:00 (6,703 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        
Westinghouse

They used to make transformers and other power dist equipment. Now its under the name Seimans-same with their circuit breaker division.Don't know if they still operate their power generation equipment-reactors,boilers and main system generators.They used to have a generator factory near Penesecola,fla-and closed it years ago.like GE Westinghouse is getting out of the lectrical and industrial equipment.I have seen only a small number of small appliances made "under their name"-did some small appliance builder buy the "Westinghouse" name-same with the light bulbs-thought that Westinghouse sold all of their lamp manufacturing and designs to Philips Lighting div.There is still a lot of Main plant Westinghouse generators and boilers,Reactors still in use.I don't worry about this type of equipment-since it is professionally operated and maintained-still mistakes do happen-HUMAN-can't blame the equipment in those cases.Blame the operators that did make a mistake-3 Mi Island,and Cherynobel.Otherwise power plants are among the most reliable-and most powerful equipment that man has built.It is amazing about the low incident rate involving it.

Post# 94815 , Reply# 10   11/19/2005 at 23:09 (6,703 days old) by portendere ()        

A century ago, Westinghouse Electric was the blood enemy of General Electric. Both companies diversified into consumer goods, industrial products, and TV broadcasting (GE with NBC, Westinghouse with CBS.) However, GE kept all of its businesses as a conglomerate, while Westinghouse has sold them off. Thus, there are many companies with the rights to use the Westinghouse name.

Westinghouse's major appliance business was sold to White Consolidated Industries, which renamed the brand White-Westinghouse. This is now owned by Electrolux. (Their trademark is exclusively on the WW brand.)

Siemens-Westinghouse (now just Siemens) got the electrical distribution business.

The Westinghouse circle-W and "You can be sure..." trademarks are now held by, of all companies, Viacom. Viacom owns CBS Broadcasting; CBS was the direct corporate descendent of Westinghouse Electric Corporation, after it had sold off everything else. The trademark is licensed to many different appliance companies, and to British Nuclear Fuels.


Post# 94819 , Reply# 11   11/20/2005 at 01:09 (6,703 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

The Westinghouse air brake is still going strong-they build air brake products for rail vehicles and for trucks.They were another of Westinghouses divisions.glad its still going.At where I work-they are some Westinghouse transformers in our transmitters(the transmitters were built in 1948)that are still in use here-work great.Westinghouse also built plate transformers for some large transmitters.I have seen some older Westinghouse transmitters still in use-they wouldn't be now-since the equipment in them-caps and transformers were PCB filled.Does anyone know who got the Westinghouse motor and generator divisions?

Post# 94924 , Reply# 12   11/20/2005 at 22:17 (6,702 days old) by shanonabc ()        

the westinghouse washers look soo cool especially the direct drive 9kg model.

Oh btw matt got a picture of the F&P front loader on my phone. Now just gotta learn how to hook the thing up to my PC LOL!


Post# 94971 , Reply# 13   11/21/2005 at 07:23 (6,701 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        
Westinghouse's spin

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you should see me when i visit his house, i always fake like i'm washing my hands in the sink when i'm actually staring into the machine. The washing action is very similar to a Simpsons and also the spin is the same. I noticed that when you set the spin to medium, the drum revs up to about 700rpm, then the motor cuts out and the drum coasts and then the motor kicks back in and gets it back up to 700rpm, this sequence continues throughout the whole sequence. It slike the motor cannot continuously run at a set speed apart from 900rpm, it has to keep revving it up and then letting it slow down a little then revving it back up again to keep it at a 'medium spin'. Heaven knows what it does on a low setting. But during the wash drain off, the drum revs up to like 200 rpm and coasts, this keeps happeneing for about 2 mins then it revs up to full speed. Extreme fun to watch throught the glass lid and the rotational fill is fun too. God bless Westinghouse and all other brands that made glass lids for their machines. I think the Westinghouse looks very neat and tidy and i love the blue on white contrast for the controls, very upt ot date and very cool.
Just my two cents
take care
Matt
btw, shannon, i cannot get pics of my phone either, it keeps giving me erro messages everytime i plug it in to the pc, i don;t care tho coz i have a perfectly good digi cam :)


Post# 95457 , Reply# 14   11/24/2005 at 00:03 (6,699 days old) by shanonabc ()        

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Post# 95647 , Reply# 15   11/26/2005 at 01:17 (6,697 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
Westinghouse air brakes

The air brakes division of Westinghouse (WABCO) was split off from Westinghouse electric a LONG time ago, way before the big sell-off began

Post# 99064 , Reply# 16   12/20/2005 at 01:48 (6,673 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Didn't George Westinghouse make his first fortune in the railroad air brake? Before that, trainmen had to operate mechanical brakes on every car to slow a train down. The air brake eliminated much of the danger in that task, because the cars could all be linked by air hoses and the brakes operated in unison from a single control.

I think Westinghouse also made a deal with Nicholai Tesla for his AC current idea. Edison clung to DC in vain hope that it would win out, but AC proved to be more efficient in energy transmission (although DC transmission is making something of a comeback in some situations).

I remember our first fridge in the 50's was a rounded white GE with one of those tiny freezers that could hold maybe an ice tray and a half gallon of ice cream. It was replaced by a fancy schmancy aqua blue Westinghouse with a bottom freezer. I remember being totally perplexed by that... especially since I couldn't reach the top shelves in the fridge section any more. But the fridge shelves were very cool. They rotated on a central post and had these push buttons that you could use to raise or lower them. Naturally I would push those buttons at the wrong time and get reprimanded and accused of "breaking" the fridge by my siblings. They'd complain even louder when I'd open the freezer by mistake.

Nowadays I see the formerly grand Westinghouse name debased on the cheapest of the cheap imported toaster ovens and other small appliances at places like Walmart. Poor old George must be rolling in his grave.


Post# 99076 , Reply# 17   12/20/2005 at 05:39 (6,672 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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George Westinghouse (Westinghouse Co.) IIRC, broke away from Thomas Edison (GE Co.) because of a disagrement in structuring of the company and management.

We see how that went.



Post# 99109 , Reply# 18   12/20/2005 at 13:27 (6,672 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Sudsmaster, are you sure that was a Westinghouse fridge? The GE fridge of the 50's had the rotating shelves with that pushbutton to raise or lower them.

Post# 99504 , Reply# 19   12/23/2005 at 00:29 (6,670 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Petek,

It was long enough ago that I certainly could have gotten them mixed up. But then it's also entirely possible that Westinghouse imitated GE's rotating shelf feature with their own. After all, most of the cars of that time looked alike as well. Big fins, and all.

I sure do have and image of that "W" with the little balls on every point, on that fridge.



Post# 99512 , Reply# 20   12/23/2005 at 03:39 (6,670 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Hmm.. well I know someone on here has a GE fridge with the rotating shelves.. speak up who ever you are!!!


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