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Post# 94446   11/17/2005 at 19:13 (6,733 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

How do you get the drive block off an early sixties Speed Queen washer? It looks like it has a little pin that sticks through the center of it to hold it on. Are we missing something? Do you have to heat it with a torch?

Please let us know how this works--we'd really appreciate it :-)

--Ross and Nate





Post# 94469 , Reply# 1   11/17/2005 at 20:35 (6,733 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Hi Ross, The only way to get the agitator block off the shaft if to knock the pin thru. But why are you wanting to take the block off? Is is bad? If you just need to remove the tub, etc, then the better and easier way to do it is to remove the hole agitator shaft with the block still on it. Underneath the OUTER tub, where the agitator shift lever engages in the transmission, there is a collar about 2 inches in diameter with TWO allen set screws in it. You loosen BOTH set screws and the complete agitator shaft will pull out.

Post# 94474 , Reply# 2   11/17/2005 at 20:37 (6,733 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

sorry, I meant to type: "remove the whole agitator shaft".........

Post# 94477 , Reply# 3   11/17/2005 at 20:41 (6,733 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Yes Ross the Drive Block wasn't meant to be removed on a Speed Queen. You pull the agitator shaft out with the block attached as Jimmy described above.

Post# 94482 , Reply# 4   11/17/2005 at 21:00 (6,733 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

I have actually had to remove and replace SpeedQueen drive blocks when the agitator bolt broke off in the block. Its still easier to do with the complete shaft removed, and still NOT a fun job to get that block off. I have NOT found a torch to help much. A couple of times I just hacksawed or used a chisel with a hammer to get the block off to replace it........

Post# 94503 , Reply# 5   11/17/2005 at 22:50 (6,733 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Yikes

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Good to know; thank you for the good info, Jimmy and Robert. Yes, the bolt broke off in the block, so it's going to be a big nugget of joy to work on. It may end up being scrap-food after all is told, and yes, that block has to come off. Unfortunately, we have no spare parts, so if this can't be accomplished, the machine is headed for the krusher...

--Nate


Post# 94523 , Reply# 6   11/18/2005 at 05:30 (6,733 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

Is there really any need to remove the block, or can you drill out the remains of the bolt and remove it with an Ezi-Out? (reverse thread bolt remover, then clean up the thread and fit a new bolt.

Funny thing is, this all sounds very familiar with a Wilkins Servis twin tub I had once, where I had to remove the drive block because the bolt had broken off...I made an absolute mess of it but in the end I drilled down into the shaft to remove the remains of the bolt. And we all know that Servis machines were sold in USA as Speed Queen.

Chris.


Post# 94529 , Reply# 7   11/18/2005 at 06:59 (6,733 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
More to the Krusher?

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SOMEONE is going to HAVE to get spanked.

Bring your harness, I'll find a paddle.


Post# 94535 , Reply# 8   11/18/2005 at 07:18 (6,733 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
As if!

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Puh-lease!!! Our determinations of krusher-food only come after endless bouts of tears and forehead-banging.

The more I think about it, the more removing the shaft will work better, and yes, we can use a removal tool to get the broken bolt out.

Thing is, the agitator shaft is seized because whatever-it-passes-through on the way to the transmission is corroded. I may have a hard time just removing the Allen bolts from the bottom and pulling up, so I was hoping to get at the part where shaft meets tub and attack it with copious amounts of WD-40.

We'll see how it goes.

--Nate


Post# 94549 , Reply# 9   11/18/2005 at 09:42 (6,732 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
Nate copious amounts of

Go to your local auto parts botique and get some Fabulous
"B'laster" PB Penetrating Catalyst; it works better than
WD


Post# 94551 , Reply# 10   11/18/2005 at 09:55 (6,732 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Awesome!

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Thank you, Darrel! I'll check that out.

Post# 94552 , Reply# 11   11/18/2005 at 09:56 (6,732 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Nate, save yourself a LOT of time and trouble. If the shaft is seized up, then the outer tub boot is ripped and needs replaced. You have to take the wash tub out to access it. And the only way to do that is to remove the block OR remove the agitator shaft in the manner I described above.
People, please keep in mind that scrapping a washer does not mean that it just is crushed and disappears. Scrapping washers and saving the parts enables other washers in better shape to be made running again. Its usually the non collectors that dont understand that room is of the essense and that scrapping some is inevitable. When someone balks about me scrapping a washer, I just offer it to them to save and store. That usually alters their attitude a little!!!!


Post# 94557 , Reply# 12   11/18/2005 at 12:32 (6,732 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Good point

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That's good to know. This machine is special, though, so it's worth the fight to avoid scrapping. Speed Queens, as noted in pumper's post, are not common finds in Arizona...

Post# 94707 , Reply# 13   11/19/2005 at 07:16 (6,732 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

hi jimmy.....nate is doing all the work....but if he cannot save machine, i have a mechanic who said that he will buy machine for parts....motor, pump, etc...


ross


Post# 94730 , Reply# 14   11/19/2005 at 09:53 (6,731 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Hi Ross, saw your original post and just thought I would offer the mechanical advice. Wasnt sure who was doing the work. Maybe the washer can be used as a donor to fix other Speed Queen washer in the future.

Post# 94770 , Reply# 15   11/19/2005 at 17:40 (6,731 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Thanks

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Thanks for the advice, Jimmy. We'll continue work on it in a few (have to get over the speedbump of Thanksgiving).

I was lazy and didn't log out of Ross' computer before sending the post :-D

--Nate


Post# 94913 , Reply# 16   11/20/2005 at 21:47 (6,730 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Nate, it sounds like you may be able to pull the top open on the washer, remove the thrust collar on the agitator shaft. Next, remove the four bolts at the bottom of the agitator shaft in the tub. You might have to work on it a bit to loosen it from the spin hub, but you can pull the tub and agitator shaft out together and then get the shaft out of the center post once it's out of the machine and you can get a little "whack action" on the end of the shaft.

You be nice Toggle, these are highly technical terms ;-)


Post# 94963 , Reply# 17   11/21/2005 at 06:49 (6,730 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
et tu Brutus?

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AGGGGGHHHH My world is ending...... Gansky taking a stab at dear old Toggle. I never thought I'd see the day.

Actually in the old days I would have jumped all over a post like that. LOL ah the fun I could have had twisting it all about.

NO CAN DO NO MORE! LOL




Post# 94968 , Reply# 18   11/21/2005 at 07:15 (6,730 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

Tomorrow, Nov 22, Manny, the mechanic who also takes care of my washers is coming to

1-bring back door to '47 bendix with new gasket on it

2-bring back timer for frigidaire wi-56 as it was out being rebuilt

3-and hopefully bring back '51 westy slant front with new boot on it after he said he had to take machine apart to get new boot on.

I am giving Manny my '55 maytag square tub wringer...need to make space in my garage and he said that if speed queen can't be fixed, he knows someone who would pay for the parts from it. Until I hear from Nate and Roger that speed queen cannot be fixed, I will hold on to it so please keep up with advice on how to fix it.


Post# 95606 , Reply# 19   11/25/2005 at 12:12 (6,725 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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:-)


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