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Post# 594893   5/7/2012 at 15:48 (4,364 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Mike,
Just thought i would post a couple of pic's of the English Electric Liberator pair. The machines are currently stored in a garage where i use to live, so unable to connect them up at the mo, but hoping to move them soon, so they will be up and running again shortly.
The washer drum on the EE is sooo small (depth)
Soz it's a bit of a fuzzy pic..
Cheers
Keith





Post# 594894 , Reply# 1   5/7/2012 at 15:49 (4,364 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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....the washer


Post# 594895 , Reply# 2   5/7/2012 at 15:50 (4,364 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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...the dryer

Post# 594948 , Reply# 3   5/7/2012 at 21:58 (4,364 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Liberated

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These HAVE to based on the Westinghouse Spacemates... it's a handsome look for them though.


Post# 594998 , Reply# 4   5/8/2012 at 03:38 (4,363 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
These HAVE to based on the Westinghouse Spacemates

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They WERE based on Westinghouse Spacemates - in fact all English Electric automatic washers were based on Westinghouse designs. And the 1950s EE mixer was a Westinghouse design too.

Keith
Thanks for posting the pictures, I think the last time I saw one was around 1968 or 69 - my aunt Nancy had one of these which she had from around 1961 or so. In fact this was the first automatic washer I ever saw "in the flesh"

Al


Post# 595070 , Reply# 5   5/8/2012 at 12:29 (4,363 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
Keith,

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Thanks for posting, they are lovely machines.


Post# 595097 , Reply# 6   5/8/2012 at 13:58 (4,363 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
Oh my!!!

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If i was a dog my tail would have dropped off from wagging! My grandmother had a manual english electric libbrator.

It looked the same exsept it hade a blue leaver for pumping out the water another one next to it to put it into spin.

Then it had 2 knobs 1 was for temperature, "Very hot, Hot, Cool and fianly cold.And the other was the timer on it was rince ( which held the timer untill you advanced it to a time and the timer was 15 mins.

you chose the water level the time how many rinces etc.

Hows that from a memory of an 8 year old ( I'm 45 and a half now :) )

If you get them running I would be most honerd if I could come see them working.

Eean.


Post# 595107 , Reply# 7   5/8/2012 at 14:29 (4,363 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Eean,

Thanks for your message, I think I know the machine you are relating to..the English Electric Tumble Wash.
I have the instruction manual for one..well done for remembering !!
Invitation will be in the post when i get them up and runing.
Cheers
Keith


Post# 595688 , Reply# 8   5/11/2012 at 07:55 (4,360 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Looking great Keith, will be fab to see them in your kitchen all working, the only problem with these is that they are sooo heavy, certainly wont fly apart!!!

Yes, they are based on the Westinghouse Spacemates, The English Electric Co Ltd, UK, had an alliance with Westinghouse and produced laundry appliances under license, the main differences is the 3kw heater, the "Rollerdial" programme selection dial (spin / temps etc) and the screw hole detergent dispenser in the door.....this ensures you only need to add powder (any powder) until a small amount of sudz is showing...


Post# 595689 , Reply# 9   5/11/2012 at 07:59 (4,360 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
English Electric 4023

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Liberator Washing Machine -

Post# 595691 , Reply# 10   5/11/2012 at 08:03 (4,360 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
English Electric

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Semi Automatic - Hi Eean, great memories you have there of this model, I have never seen one until I got the brochure and "Alpha Dave" told us the story that his mum had one and it was his job to "turn the levers" at the required time - he also said there was many a flooded kitchen when his mum turned on the taps and went away doing something else only to run back into the kitchen when she realised!!!

Post# 595693 , Reply# 11   5/11/2012 at 08:11 (4,360 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
English Electric Semi Automatic Liberator Model 4022

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Hi Eean, great memories of your grans machine, I didnt know they did one until I saw the brochure and was discussing it with "Alpha Dave" who said his mum had one, it was his job as a kid also to "turn the levers" for spin etc... he also said there was many a flooded kitchen when his mum turned the water tap on and walked away to do something else only to remember and come running back, where the levers a smooth action or a heavy "Clunk"

Post# 595694 , Reply# 12   5/11/2012 at 08:17 (4,360 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
English Electric Tumble Dryer 4602

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Here is Mathews English Electric 4602 Tumble Dryer, great machine and dries quickly..





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Post# 595755 , Reply# 13   5/11/2012 at 13:07 (4,360 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
English Electric Tumble Dryer 4602

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Hello Mike what a loveley sounding and looking dryer, nice to see a scullery maid in action aswell after all these years:-)


Post# 595797 , Reply# 14   5/11/2012 at 16:42 (4,360 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
yes its a brilliant dryer.

Thanks for posting these photos keith, my grandmother had the washer in cream colour in 1959, it couldn't have been out long at that time.

She held off from buying a wringer machine, then a twin tub thinking something better would come along. then one day she was haveing coffe with a friend and asked what the noise was, oh it's my new liberator, well thats what she had been waiting for, she would have been 49 at that time, until then it was hand washing and an acme mangle on the sink until then. Though being fairly well to do the bedding went to a laundry, as it did even once she had the machine until perhaps the mid 70's. Grandpa brought wrapped sliced bread to south wales as a salemen.

The machine was plumbed in under the worktop next to the sink, and for the first wash aparently they all sat round as if watching a television, (nothing strange about that lol) then two more friend bought one as well.

The machine lasted until 1986, when it was replaced with a hotpoint 9530, yes I should have chained myself to it so it couldn't have been taken away, grandma said it was like waving goodbye to an old friend when it went off as part exchange.

All was not lost, I did get the instruction book which was in good condition and have read it many times.

here is the picture on the first page, il try and scan it over the weekend.

Mike and John were kind enough to sacrifice there backs to rescue the 2nd model from a basement in manchester last year, it was me who bought it of ebay, it had been offered on this site but correspondance got nowhere. I have initially got it working but there is lots to be done, that will be another thread one day.

Mathew


Post# 595798 , Reply# 15   5/11/2012 at 16:46 (4,360 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
The 4023

After Mike had spent some hours cleaning it.



Post# 595817 , Reply# 16   5/11/2012 at 17:32 (4,360 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
In action

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Momentarily at least :)

Its just wonderful that examples of these machines have been saved :)

Al


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Post# 595888 , Reply# 17   5/12/2012 at 02:45 (4,359 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
English Electric..

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Great story Mathew about your Gran - could you imagine telling a young girl today she would have to wait until she was 49 before having an automated washing machine...Lol,

Its so hard to imagine many Mums like ours had to do just that, my maternal Gran was 52 (Hotpoint Empress) and my paternal Nan was 63 (Hoover twosome) , Mum was 3 yrs married and 27 (servis supertwin) & 42 for first auto (Servis Slimline 308)....How times and technology have rapidly advanced, now you expect to see washing machines on wedding lists - not toasters!!!



Post# 595891 , Reply# 18   5/12/2012 at 03:03 (4,359 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Persil Add

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Many great adds there Al, and thanks to you sharing them with us over the years before "The You Tube" came about!! Who is the housewife in that add?? she reminds me of a young Jennifer Saunders??

Mathew, do you know if that water level in the video is the correct level for washing?? it does seem a tad high, wonder if it was the rinse just done for video effect??

Gary, one cant find the right help these days, if one had seen the sharra she turned up in and then proceeded to light a fag, slurp a mug of tea whilst reading the "Kays", with a ronson escort on her beehive all before offering to start work........well I never!!!


Post# 596213 , Reply# 19   5/13/2012 at 16:53 (4,358 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Water levels

Hi Mike,

not had much time, but have taken a photo of the instructions refering to the water levels, it shows a maximum an minimun the level should be between. So the clip of the machine washing in the persil ad is about right, I think it just doesn't have a very big load in it, which wouldn't be much at all in these.

They only had one water level, same for wash and all the rinses, unless you over filled it on the hot tap.


Post# 596431 , Reply# 20   5/14/2012 at 12:22 (4,357 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Keith.

Finally we get to see the Liberator set and the machines look absolutely superb!
Thanks for the piccies and be sure to do some videos when you get them up and running again.

An old lady in the village had a matching pair of English Electric Liberators, in her period early 60s kitchen.
You could see them through her front room window, though she had a Hotpoint 960? toploader and a dryer in the coal room, as her daily machines.
Although I was a kid at the time, I got the impression that the EE Libbies were non-operational and just kept to fill the spaces in the kitchen.

When she passed on those machines will have been skipped, along with the period kitchen - such a shame all round.

Great to see a matched set again.

More piccies!!! :-)

Paul





Post# 596433 , Reply# 21   5/14/2012 at 12:25 (4,357 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Mathew.

Roll on the full restoration of your 4023 - really great news that you found a suitable motor for it.

Its just a relief that the machine was able to be extracted from its home - well worth the effort and I am sure that the rescuers would agree.

Paul


Post# 596438 , Reply# 22   5/14/2012 at 12:28 (4,357 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The EE Liberator Range....

...as I understand it.

First off - the 4021 again, with two machines in safe hands...


Post# 596439 , Reply# 23   5/14/2012 at 12:29 (4,357 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The 4022 Liberator Tumble Wash, with the main picture courtesy of Mike's collection...

Post# 596441 , Reply# 24   5/14/2012 at 12:31 (4,357 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
'AUTOMATIC' dont you know!

Then the 4023 Liberator Automatic replaces the 4021, with a restyled door...

Post# 596442 , Reply# 25   5/14/2012 at 12:31 (4,357 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

No apologies for posting Mathew's machine again...

Post# 596444 , Reply# 26   5/14/2012 at 12:34 (4,357 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Then the de luxe machines

The 4027 Liberator Automatic, with top controls.

The pictures on the left was of a machine available for purchase a few years back. Unfortunately, if my memory serves me right, it was in The Netherlands! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.............


Post# 596446 , Reply# 27   5/14/2012 at 12:36 (4,357 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

A bit of a mystery machine now.

Over the years of researching I have, somewhere along the way, come across talk of a model 4028 Reversomatic! Dont knowingly have a photograph of a 4028......anyone know of what this was?


Post# 596447 , Reply# 28   5/14/2012 at 12:37 (4,357 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Model 4031 was the Reversomatic 474 De Luxe...

Post# 596448 , Reply# 29   5/14/2012 at 12:38 (4,357 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Model 4032 Super 484 - not a pretty machine, to say the least!

Post# 596450 , Reply# 30   5/14/2012 at 12:43 (4,357 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Two more mystery model numbers and a photo

Have also seen word of models 4033 and 4034, both of which I have listed as a 'Reversomatic'.

The only model left, for which I dont know the model number, is the Reversomatic de luxe 474 Solid State from circa 1972....


Post# 596451 , Reply# 31   5/14/2012 at 12:45 (4,357 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Begging the person who owns the brochure, that contains the page shown below, to help me solve this latter mystery.

What was the 40?? number of the Reversomatic de luxe 474 Solid State?

Please help.
Paul


Post# 597005 , Reply# 32   5/17/2012 at 07:27 (4,354 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
Aww

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I have fond memorys of my grandmother and I beeing in the kitchen, and theas pictures have brought back wonderfull memmorys.

Thank you VERY much !

Eean :)


Post# 597007 , Reply# 33   5/17/2012 at 07:30 (4,354 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
Just to add.

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My grandmother would have to drag it across the kitchen to the taps and sink on the back it would have a big lever to put the weels down. ( The Tumbeler version)

Post# 597248 , Reply# 34   5/18/2012 at 02:46 (4,353 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Paul,

I have a copy of that English Electric brochure, I will see if it mentions the dryer to the Reversomatic Solid State 474.

I always liked the 4032 super 484, and the 4027 even more...I remember that one on ebay a few years ago, seriously thought about going and getting it !!

When i next go to the garage i will take some more pictures, although they are a nightmare to more, it took 3 of us to lift the washer out of a cellar.

Regards
Keith



Post# 597254 , Reply# 35   5/18/2012 at 03:23 (4,353 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
"it took 3 of us to lift the washer out of a cellar. 

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Keith, you should have called the Northern removals team, two of us would have had that up out with two pushes of a keyplate....Lol!!!

Mathew, I suppose with a full load and one direction it was great for the time, especially if it was your first washer, like your Grans was....

It would be great to see the full brochure on the reversomats Keith, they where the matching set my Great Uncle joe & his wife had, they where in a scullery and he had built a big concrete plinth that they sat on, kiddy height for sure!!!





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Post# 597273 , Reply# 36   5/18/2012 at 07:28 (4,353 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Mike,

LOL, i should have called the "Up Northers" It weighed a ton, I think it must be the heaviest machine i have ever moved, espcially up a small flight of stairs no wider than 2ft !!

I think the brochure is the early AEI (English Electric, Hotpoint, Morphy Richards) brochure that Al has.

I got this week a nice pamphlet for Curry's showing their range of 1965 (aprx) I will try and scan it and post. It has the 4027 in there, i think that is the best looking reversomatic :)

Cheers
Keith



Post# 597297 , Reply# 37   5/18/2012 at 10:42 (4,353 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Keith.

Any info on these English Electrics would be gratefully received. What with Mathew getting his one working and you revealing your matched set, it would be great to get a complete understanding of their model lineup and possibly get some of those mystery model numbers identified.

Currys circa 1965 - bet that leaflet harbours some classics!

Paul
ps the photo below reveals a bit of mix and match...


Post# 597311 , Reply# 38   5/18/2012 at 12:38 (4,353 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
hotpoint 95622

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Wow, what a lovley pair, of english electric liberator.

Post# 597803 , Reply# 39   5/20/2012 at 15:04 (4,351 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Paul,

I had a look at that brochure with the stacked washer/dryer by English Electric and the dryer was a model 4604F.

Hope this helps.
Keith


Post# 597817 , Reply# 40   5/20/2012 at 16:58 (4,351 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)        

Can someone point my out how the soap 'port'hole works? I still figured out how it could come handy?

My granny had a Englisch Electric dryer with a vent at the front, rather strange dryer but good and fast!


Post# 597832 , Reply# 41   5/20/2012 at 17:36 (4,351 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Soap Porthole.....

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Its a large screw cap which is in the middle of the glass door, one simply unscrews it and you can add soap powder into the wash until the required amount of suds was reached...

Post# 598143 , Reply# 42   5/22/2012 at 03:58 (4,349 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
Smooth

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On the tumble wash the leavers were Blue the left one was fore pump out and the right for spin. They moved smoothly with out a clunk.

Post# 599016 , Reply# 43   5/26/2012 at 05:10 (4,345 days old) by atomic57 ()        
Liberators

Wow your liberators are gorgeous! Those are my dream machines! I bet lots of people have asked but if you are ever interested in selling them, don't hesitate to contact me:).

Post# 599057 , Reply# 44   5/26/2012 at 09:44 (4,345 days old) by hoovermatic (UK)        

This was the very first automatic washer I ever encountered and I remember it to this day - I don't think I really knew what it was but having never seen one I went straight up to it at a neighbours house and started fiddling with the dials, only to be shouted at by my mother for interfering. The lady of the house said I could play with the revolving programme guide thingy but not to touch the round dial, which I did, with relish. Never saw it again until I came on this site and having just read the last few postings I now know what the screw cap on the porthole was for!!

Post# 599270 , Reply# 45   5/27/2012 at 14:16 (4,344 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Atomic...
Thanks for your compliment, they are nice machines, came from a Lady Dashwood in London, a friend of mine gave them to me, he use to service them, and finally got the pair when they decided to upgrade.
Regards
Keith


Post# 736458 , Reply# 46   2/19/2014 at 22:34 (3,711 days old) by grahamperrin ()        
1964 advertisement – Tumble-Wash Mark II, Automatic Mark II

Kingston Gleaner, Friday, November 27, 1964, Page 19

£95 for the English Electric Liberator Tumble-Wash Mark II – 

> The amazing one-tub machine that heats the water, washes the clothes really clean, rinses thoroughly in clear running water, spins damp-dry, then switches off automatically. Just set the controls – the Liberator Tumble-Wash does the rest for you!

– the rest, except mop up. it was a second floor flat floodtastic nightmare for my neighbours on the first floor. But fun.

125 for the Automatic Mark II.


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Post# 736499 , Reply# 47   2/20/2014 at 08:15 (3,710 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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FYI - Guys,

I have loaded some leaflets/brochures on ebay one of which is a MK1 English Electric instruction manual. I have had a sort through my collection of literature and getting rid of the duplicates.

Cheers
Keith


Post# 736520 , Reply# 48   2/20/2014 at 10:47 (3,710 days old) by AtomicT (Middletown, NY)        
REPLY #22?? UFO?

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What is on the bottom of the picture? It looks like the same color..... Is it attached to the unit?


Post# 736525 , Reply# 49   2/20/2014 at 10:56 (3,710 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
UFO

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Its the top half of a portable electric heater, what we would call and electric fire, and no ot is nothing to do with the machine even if it is the same colour

Al


Post# 736526 , Reply# 50   2/20/2014 at 11:07 (3,710 days old) by AtomicT (Middletown, NY)        
UFO identified!!

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You can see how I thought that right?  I was just wondering.  Was it made in Roswell?


Post# 736544 , Reply# 51   2/20/2014 at 13:49 (3,710 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
UFO

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Well its easy for me to recognise as its something I have been familiar with all my life, although this type of heater is almost extinct now.

The picture below shows an example of one - something I have been familiar with all my life as both my parents and grandparents had one of these - the Princess Model in gold with two elements. The heat comes from an insulated rod tightly wound with wire - commonly known as a "bar" with a "realistic" flickering coal or log effect

Al



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