Thread Number: 40229
DDD 5/10/12 - Hoover Twin Tub |
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Post# 595468   5/10/2012 at 08:23 (4,365 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 595470 , Reply# 1   5/10/2012 at 08:25 (4,365 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 595476 , Reply# 2   5/10/2012 at 09:04 (4,365 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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Post# 595502 , Reply# 3   5/10/2012 at 12:14 (4,365 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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only mine doesn't reflect the laundry like the tub in the first pic. I'll have to get out the Pledge.
Like so many members, the DDD's are a goldmine for me, because until coming here, I had very little reading experiences with long-gone brands and models.
Would love to see a DDD on the operation of the "Hoove." Mike says to trickle the water in for more effective auto-rinses, I wonder what the Hoover manuals say about auto-rinsing, pressure, time, etc. Hoping someone who has a manual will mail it Robert for scanning. This one's a real stunner and in Technicolor.
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Post# 595511 , Reply# 4   5/10/2012 at 12:50 (4,365 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 595516 , Reply# 5   5/10/2012 at 13:19 (4,365 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 595520 , Reply# 6   5/10/2012 at 13:47 (4,365 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 595533 , Reply# 7   5/10/2012 at 15:26 (4,365 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 595541 , Reply# 8   5/10/2012 at 15:41 (4,365 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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I usually have kept the water on slowly while auto-rinsing, allows for the clothes in the spinner to soak up the water all through before the water level switch is tripped and spinning starts. Too fast and the water splashes over the top of the clothes load in the spinner and into the outer tub, tripping the spin faster without full saturation. I learned this from our neighbors who washed for five in a Hoover for nearly four years. Alice also liked warm to hot rinses, cut rinsing time (cycles) in half.
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Post# 595549 , Reply# 9   5/10/2012 at 16:04 (4,365 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 595552 , Reply# 10   5/10/2012 at 16:29 (4,365 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 595553 , Reply# 11   5/10/2012 at 16:31 (4,365 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)   |   | |
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Greg, yes I agree with you, slow the water current the better. It takes longer to engage the switch, but it allows for more saturation. I usually run mine through 2 on/off cycles. With a decent detergent (Rosalies would be amazing...) things clear out nicely. I also warm-rinse in them if nothing else becasue my hands like the warm as opposed to the cold. I suppose the warm water would relax the clothing and make them more forthcoming with their retained water.
Mike, the manual doesn't really make any indication for the auto-rinse as to what water pressure to set it at. A trick I do is use an older spin mat with the larger openings in a circle pattern. The center of these is an open circle, and I find that if you can direct the water, like a target, into that circle, that's a good flow for rinsing. My kitchen sink in my house now is so anemic that it doesn't matter. Usually the wash side is finished before it can fill twice for the rinsing.
It's a novel machine, and the machine that I cut my teeth on, but man it's soooooo loud that it hinders it's use in apartment settings and small areas. Some are noticeably louder than others though, I have 4 plastic tub machines and the 0519 auto-rinser I use is the quietest and also the slowest to get up to speed. I still love these machines and I still find them just as capable of cleaning as a full-sized machine. I've had several conversations with people that have referred to them as toys or cheap things. They ARE less glamorous than a decked out Maytag or Whirlpool, but just right in my opinion. There are also those who which to not touch the laundry during the washing process. My only wish is that they still made them, or any decent twin tub still.
-Tim |
Post# 595599 , Reply# 12   5/10/2012 at 20:40 (4,365 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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I washed the heavily soiled kitchen entry rug in very hot water. It turned over very well, sometimes flying like a pinwheel. Other machines do not handle this thick rubber-bottomed rug as well--not even close. It tumbled as it would in a front loader only much, much faster.
I was surprised to find that the spinning was nowhere near as loud as in my other nasty Hoove. So this is one of the Quiet-paks
Here was the test: Very hot wash followed by a cold rinse, to see if the interior of the rug was ice cold or any degree of cool to warm. Well, I let it rinse 3 times, and I followed the suggestion of Mike, Tim, Greg, and Alice using the slow trickle just a hair more than in Mike's movie.
The result: a perfectly clean and thoroughly rinsed ice cold orange rug. Thank you, Gentlemen. When and now the hell did I turn against my Hoover? Still, the UK machines are so much cooler. Just look at Mike's drooler in the vid. How can we get the all metal gems over here? Pix next time, now that I've reconnected with an old friend which I won't neglect again--especially for the troublesome entry rug. |
Post# 595603 , Reply# 13   5/10/2012 at 20:57 (4,365 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 595604 , Reply# 14   5/10/2012 at 20:58 (4,365 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 595622 , Reply# 15   5/10/2012 at 22:54 (4,365 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 595628 , Reply# 16   5/10/2012 at 23:36 (4,365 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 595633 , Reply# 17   5/10/2012 at 23:49 (4,365 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 595744 , Reply# 18   5/11/2012 at 11:58 (4,364 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Here's how I used to rinse in the old nasty Hoove'. Wrong, wrong, wrong. It's funny ~ I just kept adding more water pressure, never thinking to use less. Now that I know how to rinse, the new 0159 will be back in the rotation, thus increasing the longevity of all the other gems. You CAN teach an old dog new tricks.
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Post# 595801 , Reply# 19   5/11/2012 at 17:05 (4,364 days old) by wiskybill (Canton, Ohio)   |   | |
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My Hoover has also been on vacation for a while. Will have to put it to use other than a resting place for the iron. |
Post# 596418 , Reply# 20   5/14/2012 at 11:33 (4,361 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)   |   | |
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Maybe someone else who has an Auto-Rinse model can comment, but I don't find it very effective, which is a bummer. I remember wanting for a 0519 auto-rinse machine for a long time until coming across a decent one. After having one for a while, I've come to find the feature kinda useless. The spinner starts too soon, and doesn't even get up to speed before the switch cuts it. After that it starts up again very quickly and it just doesn't rinse very well and seems hard on the motor. If it ran longer at a time and could get some extract speed going and then fill longer before take-off that would make a big difference. The conveniance factor would be great if it actually worked...
So, I ran a test on the 0519 last night and got the results that I sorta thought I would. I washed a load of hand towels in the machine and put half in the spinner and ran the auto-rinse cycle. After 4 on/off cycles the water was still soapy. I also changed rinse temperature 1/2 through and noticed that clothes in the top were cold and the clothes in the bottom were warm. So I did a manual flush n' fill rinse and got noticeably better results. I used low water flow with warm water and compressed the load a little to compact it and saturate it. I started the machine and the water cleared right out. After that load spun out, I did the other load in it with just manual flush-rinsing. 2 fill n rinses and the water was clear and these were absorbent hand towels with Tide w/Bleach (non-HE). Also the spinner motor did not seem to be under the same duress as stopping and starting with water in it.
Maybe there is a way to adjust the water switch (simple Singer pressure switch) to get longer fills before starting, I don't recall there being an adjustment.
Photo:
A Perfect "Hoover-Cake"
-Tim |
Post# 596421 , Reply# 21   5/14/2012 at 12:01 (4,361 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Hi Tim, would agree with you there, I never switch the "Auto-Rinse on before I`ve done a long spin out of the wash solution - then during the auto rinse will lift the lid and slosh the clothes around with a deep rinse, switching on & off a few times just to lose the water quickly...
Saying that will always use low foaming detergent now in any twinny!! Did you get to demo the Oovas at Kevins wash-in?? |
Post# 596425 , Reply# 22   5/14/2012 at 12:09 (4,361 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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that is precisely why my Hoove has lived in the closet for the last 3+ years. But with my test load the other night, after the brotherly advice, I have new found hope. Full disclosure: the rug, although bulky and ungainly, is not a full load. I used regular (non-HE) Liquid Tide with a touch of Downey.
Tim, try a really light trickle, a stream that takes, oh, about 3 or 4 minutes to activate the spinner. Only guessing here. When I do a full load , will let you know what happens. Towels make for a really good test load. But with Alice washing for a family all those years, and our UK buddies using TT's regularly, something is missing. Interesting. The grand collective mind of Aworg will flush out the answers.
Hey!--it just came to me--Is it possible that I got better rinsing because fabric softener has suds-kill properties. I only use this version of Tide for nasty stuff, and this is my first jug, so I'm not sure what is going on. |
Post# 596445 , Reply# 23   5/14/2012 at 12:35 (4,361 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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Tim--and others---I have a Hoover 519 in semi-regular use, and No, the Auto-Rinse feature isn't perfect. I use it for maybe 3 or four flushes, but then also click over to spin with no flowing water and get all the water out, repack the bottom clothes to the top of the spinner and vice-versa, and while re-packing I have a medium water flow and rinse each piece in the spout. Auto-Rinse is convenient but not perfect. But it does allow me to leave slow water flowing and walk away from the machine for a bit.
As for warm versus cold water use in the rinse spinner, I usually make that decision based on the comfort of my hands more than on the needs of the laundry or machine.
I very much like the spout instead of models which are all manual hose fill and rinse, and I very much like and trust this fun machine, but NOTHING about it is AutoMatic, nope. |
Post# 596454 , Reply# 24   5/14/2012 at 12:48 (4,361 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 596480 , Reply# 25   5/14/2012 at 14:18 (4,361 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)   |   | |
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Yes, I always spin out the initial suds, and as a manual rinse machine, it's fine. I was mostly disappointed with the auto-mode, it could be so much better. I was thinking of maybe wiring in a delay circuit to delay the contact on the pressure switch, maybe that would give it more time to fill and then more time to spin. It really only needs a minor tweak.
Or I'll never get around to it :)
-Tim |