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Post# 94562   11/18/2005 at 12:59 (6,704 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

I Thought that it could be an idea to tell about my machine collection here and some comments on the machines i have.

WASHING MACHINES

1 Hoover Keymatic 3331: This machine is from 1961 and it still works very good. Only bad thing is that it doesn´t wash as clean as new or other washers. This is due to the construction of the machine. It spins at about 750 rpm. Only problem is that the fuses blow if i wash at 185 f, thats about 85 celsius.

2 Constructa V4 De luxe 100: A german machine that a friend gave me. He said he was going to throw away it, so i saved the machine from that. It leaks a little, but this is common with this machine i,ve heard. It also wanders a bit when it does spin. The spin speed is not very high. Dont know the speed for sure. It has a lot of buttons to the programs. (see pic at end of thread)

3 Whirlpool duet washer: This machine an another friend gave to me. It works kinda good, but is very noisy and in my opinion not very good. I have had a problem with it. The machine was flashing a fault code but now it seems to work again. Spins at about 1200 rpm

4 Miele w 721: A machine i actually have buyed myself. It is from 1989 and is the best washer in my opinion (cleanes VERY good). I have only have 1 problem with it. It was a coin in the pump. Spins at about 1100 rpm

MY TUMBLE DRYER
Cylinda (Asko) tt 120: A swedish dryer from 1975. It works good, but have overheated a few times. Not really sure why, i always check the lint filter before start. It has also sounded very bad, but not any more thank god.

MY DISHWASHER
General Electric sd 420 s: This machine is from 1965 and works fine, expect that it leaks from the door. It has a very nice chrome design that i really like. 4 buttons for program selection. It also has this "overhead" wash.






Post# 94567 , Reply# 1   11/18/2005 at 13:30 (6,704 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

Ohh by the way. if anyone wants to see some photos i have a collection here

automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/00Sho...


CLICK HERE TO GO TO fredriksam's LINK


Post# 94569 , Reply# 2   11/18/2005 at 14:00 (6,704 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Wow, your house looks EXACTLY like Mike's in Chester, right down to the door handle! And you arranged the Keymatic in the same way too...how neat!

Mike, care to comment? ;-)


Post# 94576 , Reply# 3   11/18/2005 at 14:34 (6,704 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Very odd indeed! And the picture of your Constructa seems to come from the website of a German friend.

Louis


CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK


Post# 94582 , Reply# 4   11/18/2005 at 15:13 (6,704 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

I "loaned His image there, because my camera is totally out of order, but other photos are made by me...

Post# 94583 , Reply# 5   11/18/2005 at 15:18 (6,704 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Which picture did you "loan"? The one of the Keymatic or the one of the Constructa?

Post# 94584 , Reply# 6   11/18/2005 at 15:25 (6,704 days old) by westytoploader ()        

That green Keymatic certainly looks like the same one we saw on eBay a while back...I believe it was one of two Keymatics being sold as a pair, IIRC.

Post# 94589 , Reply# 7   11/18/2005 at 16:49 (6,704 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

The keymatic one. The first pic on my photopage. If you want i can change the name so Mike is credited.

I dont look at e-bay. Its the first model of Keymatic that has this colours. Newr ones are white and has another timeline. You can see that on Foraloysius site

this one below



CLICK HERE TO GO TO fredriksam's LINK


Post# 94685 , Reply# 8   11/19/2005 at 02:01 (6,704 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I'm sorry, but I find your story hard to believe. Here is why:

1. You did not only take the first picture from somewhere else, but also the second one. I linked the website where it comes from in my earlier post. The Constructa in the picture is not yours and you didn't take the picture as you said.

2. The Whirlpool Duet is not in your bathroom. That is an American laundryroom, I can tell by the details. So the information given with the picture is incorrect. Just look at the window, the wall that it's in is less thick than in the picture with the Miele. I'm sure you didn't tear down the outside wall just to replace it with a thinner one and put an American double hung window in.

3. The picture of the Hoover at work has a logo in it. Isn't that an old eBay logo?

4. I find it hard to believe that the last picture with the Philips washing machine is made in Scotland. I'm sure you will have an explanation for the fact that the plug in the picture is a different one than those used in Scotland. Just for your information I've added a little picture of those they do use there.

My conclusion is that too many things aren't what you want us to believe, so frankly I think you are an impostor. Ofcourse I challenge you to prove me wrong, I would surely owe you an apology then. I'm sure you can ask somebody else with a digital camera take a few pictures of you with the appliances you claim to own. Personally I'm looking forward to a picture of you with the control panel of the RCA Whirlpool combo that you saved. But a picture of you with the Constructa or the Whirlpool Duet will do too...

Louis


Post# 94690 , Reply# 9   11/19/2005 at 03:28 (6,704 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

There is a logo on the picture of the machine at work, i know. But you dont know the whole story of that one, but i can tell you if you want me too.

It was a long story, but i short it a bit. We had a party at our job and everybody was drunk. Someone said: we sell our lame machine on Blocket (swedish site similar to ebay). So they took the picture of the machine and sent it there. When our boss came on next day he was very angry and they had to take down the sell. I saved a picture of it on my computer first..

About the bathroom, actually i have 2 bathrooms and the one where the washers are are "made" to have an "American" feeling. It did cost a lot for me and my girlfriend to do that. I just love the american feeling.

About the philips washer. It was in a house in scotland, but it wasnt used. Thats all i can say about that, sorry


Post# 94691 , Reply# 10   11/19/2005 at 03:49 (6,704 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Not good enough!

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You keep changing the stories, I'm just not buying them anymore. Just show us some proof that you have what you claim. That's all I ask for! Stories aren't just good enough anymore. Period!

Post# 94728 , Reply# 11   11/19/2005 at 09:43 (6,704 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

You know what, I can almost sense where the end tune for Eastenders should come in... ;-)

Post# 94729 , Reply# 12   11/19/2005 at 09:46 (6,704 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        
To foraloysius

This is a offline thing i,m gonna say, but you maybe wanna know. I saw an interesting thread. It was named: Best of vintage washer/dryer combo units. You mentioned a machine there that i now a few things about.

I have told you about that i recycling machines, well, before, we even repaired some of them and sold as used machines. The machine i wanna tell about is the Miele toploader w 489. It was sold in the seventies and Mile pulled it in quite fast.

Now the reason WHY it was pulled in: This machine had a fault in the motor which meant it COULD overheat. As i,ve heard from a source, nothing really happened, but it was enough for Miele to pull it back. Also there was some problems with the bearings also. I myself have seen very few of these machines. Have tried repairing one, but it didnt work out good.


Post# 94746 , Reply# 13   11/19/2005 at 14:23 (6,703 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Boy where is Chad Miller when we really need him.

Post# 94751 , Reply# 14   11/19/2005 at 15:09 (6,703 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

YOU SHOULD NOT BE RUDE. YOU DONT NOW ME AND HAVE NO IDEA IF I LIE. WELL I DONT!!!!!!!!!!

i MAY HAVE USED OTHERS PICS BUT ITS BECAUSE MY CAMERA IS BROKEN.

BY THE WAY HOW COULD I OTHERWISE KNOW ABOUT THE WHIRLPOOL FAULT CODE?


Post# 94753 , Reply# 15   11/19/2005 at 15:42 (6,703 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I guess we are finally getting through to you. Yes, we think you are a liar. You told us that you only used one picture of somebody else, but that wasn't true. And as I said before I don't believe that you own those machines.

The fault codes are in the manuals that you can download from the Whirlpool website. Available to everybody.


Post# 94754 , Reply# 16   11/19/2005 at 15:51 (6,703 days old) by versatronic ()        
I believe you

But for the sake of others, could we get a picture of you next to your broken camera perhaps?

Post# 94759 , Reply# 17   11/19/2005 at 16:32 (6,703 days old) by westytoploader ()        
Come on, do you really think we're that vain??

I agree Robert...but instead of not posting pictures at all, this one's stealing them from others' collections, making it even more obvious!!

Fredriksam, all of the Hoover Keymatic pictures were taken from Mike, right down to the one of the keyplate!! Same with the picture where the top looked green. I'm not sure where you got the others, but that foaming Frigidaire picture looks like it could be found pretty easily on Google.

Here's Mike's collection...notice the Keymatic shots.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO westytoploader's LINK


Post# 94784 , Reply# 18   11/19/2005 at 20:31 (6,703 days old) by bethann (Indianapolis)        

Fredrik: I really hate to tell ya but,you can't get by with anything like that around here. These guy's know ALL the machines of all the members, kinda like their own member, if you know what I mean. Your better off putting them on your wish list. That's what I do. I steal em from the Kansas City museum all the time. See.

Post# 94790 , Reply# 19   11/19/2005 at 21:11 (6,703 days old) by bostonwash ()        

woow, steal other washing machine pics and claiming they are your own!?
hmm.. I think I have just tripled my collection. Who had the Dispensall, and the Avacodo LK from 1979, the kitchenaid Superba from 1983, Toast colored Whirlpool washer from 1984, and the ... and the ...
kinda bad.


Post# 94823 , Reply# 20   11/20/2005 at 04:53 (6,703 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

Ok sorry i used others photos on some, but i do have those machines anyway, whatever you belive....

Post# 94827 , Reply# 21   11/20/2005 at 07:05 (6,703 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

Who is Chad Miller??

C


Post# 94972 , Reply# 22   11/21/2005 at 07:24 (6,702 days old) by designgeek ()        


But then the question is, *why* would someone go faking it, in a forum where anyone is welcome regardless of what they have or don't have, as long as their interests are sincere & honestly represented, and they communicate politely.



Post# 94986 , Reply# 23   11/21/2005 at 09:08 (6,702 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Chris, Chad Miller was a member back when we were on the old yahoo Classic Appliances club who claimed to have every dream machine possible. Sure enough it came out later on that he didn't own anything he said he did.

Post# 95139 , Reply# 24   11/22/2005 at 06:54 (6,701 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Oh the Deja Vu is kicking in again and again

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and again.................

Post# 95164 , Reply# 25   11/22/2005 at 11:09 (6,700 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

I,m sorry but the reason i used other peoples pics is because i,m lazy. Truth to tell. I have the machines, but no digital camera. I was thinking about that they look the same, minus some differences. My Keymatic is a little bit rusty on one side and my constructa looks more used than the one on the picture i showed there.

Well i will try to put up my own pics, but it might take some time. But those who waits for something good.....

Also i have a little cool story to share in the "newer machine" forum.


Post# 95183 , Reply# 26   11/22/2005 at 14:09 (6,700 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Well i will try to put up my own pics, but it might take some time

Same old story, I'm afraid, same old story...

It's all well and good promising them over and over again; but until we actually see photos I'm afraid a lot of us are going to have a hard time believing it.

Jon


Post# 95210 , Reply# 27   11/22/2005 at 15:48 (6,700 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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CM claimed to have a photo disc of pics taken with a disposable camera or some such, but didn't have software to read it. He was supposed to send it to me so I could post his pics. It never arrived.

Post# 95270 , Reply# 28   11/22/2005 at 21:18 (6,700 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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YOU GO GLENN!

Post# 95295 , Reply# 29   11/22/2005 at 23:59 (6,700 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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yeah well...

Photo disks made by film (such as in a disposable camera),when developed by Kodak COME WITH "Easy-share" software right on the same CD.

Just by reading the CD in your computer, it will load-in the software.......


Post# 95307 , Reply# 30   11/23/2005 at 01:51 (6,700 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Right, which further discredited the CM story on that point. Which may not have anything to do with this situation ... but I'm just saying ...

Post# 95331 , Reply# 31   11/23/2005 at 07:19 (6,700 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Good reputation, unlike mine.

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Yah,

I'm not judging ANYONE either way.

But this I KNOW:
Don't mess with Louis. That boy is factual and accurate. If he says something doesn't compute....I tend believe it. And he doesn't cause trouble and is the nicest guy. So I can't see him stirring up the pot just for fun.



Post# 95526 , Reply# 32   11/24/2005 at 17:59 (6,698 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Tonight I had a wonderful time surfing over the internet, especially when I had the hunch to have a look at some Webshot pictures. Webshots is a sort of photo album where you can store your pictures and share them with others. Just for fun I typed the words washing machine and all kinds of interesting pictures turned up on my screen. Although I felt I would see some familiar pictures I was still surprised to see some pictures that mr Frederiksam posted in his album. For instance the crappy machine in Mallorca appears to stand in Italy!! And Mallorca is definitely in Spain!! The picture was taken by three girls on a trip.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK


Post# 95527 , Reply# 33   11/24/2005 at 18:07 (6,698 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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That washer that definetely was supposed to be in Scotland appears to be in Granada. That's not Scotland!! The picture goes to the album with the picture of the Philips washing machine in it.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK


Post# 95528 , Reply# 34   11/24/2005 at 18:14 (6,698 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I found mr Frederiksam's friend too in a Webshot album. Her name is Lindsay if you perhaps forgot her name. Here's the picture of the frontloader that is oversudsing. I didn't contact her yet to ask if she knew a guy called Erik from Karlskrona in Sweden. I didn't want to embarrass the club.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK


Post# 95530 , Reply# 35   11/24/2005 at 18:30 (6,698 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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And the Bosch his parents have. For now that is, because it is in an album with things for sale.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK


Post# 95536 , Reply# 36   11/24/2005 at 20:00 (6,698 days old) by westytoploader ()        

I bet you're having a SMASHING good time Louis, uncovering all of these important "details"! One of the best features that I like about Webshots is that you can search for certain pictures. I tried Googling them at first and turned up nothing; I can't believe they were as close as Webshots!! All we need to find now are the Duet, Miele, the burned machine, the "cereal-box" machine, the picture of the dishwasher foaming up, and the New Wave. The Keymatic and Constructa pictures he took from Mike and the German site you described.

That is absolutely hilarious looking at all of these pictures...they're all lies! And thank you very much for posting that "oversudsing" album, because there are some HOT girls in there in my opinion...LOL! ;-)

Robert, perhaps you're looking at this?


Post# 95540 , Reply# 37   11/24/2005 at 20:25 (6,698 days old) by westytoploader ()        
And here's the cereal-box machine!

Location: Ravenna.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO westytoploader's LINK


Post# 95567 , Reply# 38   11/24/2005 at 23:29 (6,698 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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To paraphrase a quote from some olde English playwright

The guard Marcellouis in Act 1 Scene 4

"Something's rotten in Denmark....errrrr Sweden I mean"


Post# 95638 , Reply# 39   11/26/2005 at 00:27 (6,697 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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uh-oh, this don't look so good.
Somebody just got cold-busted!


Yay Louis, yay Austin!

Did we forget to mention that the average American machine would NEVER fit through a bathroom door to get it in, in the first place.

A bathroom door here is 24 inches wide (60cm) And I'm guessing that the size there is similar.. Louis, speak!

This MAY explain why we practically NEVER see large/full-size/ washing machienes in bahrooms here (can I safely say never?)

Our old Top-load style machines are 27 by 27 inches square generally (which is about 68cm.) Newer Frolt-load styles tend to have bigger cabinets.

So to recapitulate... 60cm wide door; 68cm wide machine in its narrowest dmension.... HOW?

So how would YOU be able to get an American machine into YOUR bathroom?

KY jelly anyone? Even that won't help.


Post# 95641 , Reply# 40   11/26/2005 at 00:40 (6,697 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

In a trailer home my brother lived in while attending college-the washer was in the bathroom-was a Frigidiare.Had to replace the timer in it.Now it has me wondering if that machine was "trapped" in its bathroom-you would have to remove the door and frame to get it out and get another in.The washer was beside the sink.I think in some other trailer homes--the washer was in a bathroom.the home just had the washer-later my brother put a dryer in an entrance Vesibule he added to the trailer.

Post# 95651 , Reply# 41   11/26/2005 at 04:47 (6,697 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Steve,

Europe (except for the UK perhaps) has wider doors in bathrooms. I measured mine and it is 75cm. In newer houses they are even 80cm I think.

Austin,

Actually I don't have a smashing good time doing this. I hate it when these things happen. The reason I posted those links is to prove that mr Fredriksam is not only using other people's pictures but also telling stories that aren't true. That isn't his friend with that overfoaming washer. And the Philips wasn't in Scotland. So there is no reason to believe he has the washers he claims he has until he has proved otherwise. I'm not going to search for more pictures, I think I made my point clear.

Mr Fredriksam,

I hope you got the point now. If I were you I wouldn't be whining for some Keymatic diagrams but clear my reputation here by proving to us that you have the machines you say you have. Until then I would make myself scarce on this website.

Louis


Post# 95653 , Reply# 42   11/26/2005 at 06:13 (6,697 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Newer bathrooms here now have wider doors too.. wheelchair accessibility.

They also now swing out, not in.

Takes getting used to..
outlets (power points) are higher and wall swithes are lower. same reason.


Post# 95655 , Reply# 43   11/26/2005 at 07:13 (6,697 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

are you serious about bathroom doors being 60 cm wide? (=600mm)

Here in Aus all doors in new homes are standard size of 820 mm wide, 870 is the next standard size up and is common for front doors. In my new house the toilet and bathroom doors are 770mm which is unusually narrow and I had to get the doors specially made up. My kitchen pantry doorway is 620mm, I will have to get it made specially too.

Chris.


Post# 95658 , Reply# 44   11/26/2005 at 08:40 (6,697 days old) by bearpeter ()        
I think he may have the message now....

... thats all I have to say, the guy is either rhino-skinned or he is feeling pretty degraded right now. Can we all move on?


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