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An Easy Combo Travels East to Maryland |
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Post# 599839   5/30/2012 at 07:54 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Yes thanks to Jeff [ moparguy ] who spotted this on Oregon's Craigslist a few months ago and Tom [ TurboMatic ] for paying the shipping we now have an Easy combo here in Beltsville, Md. The machine is a 1960 vented electric model, probably the most basic version. The machine needed very little work and seems to function as it should, it is a very unique machine that employed many interesting ideas. |
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Post# 599841 , Reply# 1   5/30/2012 at 07:56 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 599843 , Reply# 2   5/30/2012 at 07:57 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 599845 , Reply# 3   5/30/2012 at 07:59 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 599846 , Reply# 4   5/30/2012 at 08:01 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 599847 , Reply# 5   5/30/2012 at 08:02 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 599849 , Reply# 6   5/30/2012 at 08:03 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 599851 , Reply# 7   5/30/2012 at 08:07 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 599853 , Reply# 8   5/30/2012 at 08:22 (4,342 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 599857 , Reply# 10   5/30/2012 at 08:51 (4,342 days old) by Northwesty (Renton, WA)   |   | |
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Very modern looking machine |
Post# 599858 , Reply# 11   5/30/2012 at 08:52 (4,342 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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John - what an amazing machine to find! Very, very cool that it is in such great shape.
Love the dual motors, with not only various types of belts being driven but that pump belt is out of this world - I can't believe how long it is! So much stuff to play with under the hood, with everything accessible from the top. Servicing appears to be much more tolerable than what it would be on a pesky Maytag combo.... ;) Thanks for sharing --- Ben This post was last edited 05/30/2012 at 10:45 |
Post# 599861 , Reply# 12   5/30/2012 at 09:04 (4,342 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 599876 , Reply# 13   5/30/2012 at 10:40 (4,342 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 599879 , Reply# 14   5/30/2012 at 10:49 (4,342 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 599887 , Reply# 15   5/30/2012 at 11:51 (4,341 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 599899 , Reply# 16   5/30/2012 at 13:05 (4,341 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Great find there, and look at the back, it looks like the drum is wedged into those side panels and locked into place with the guides on the base...
And I suppose all those motors and gubbins are perfect on the top of the drum to weigh it down so reducing and UP movement!!! All becomes a lot clearer after the other recent thread!! |
Post# 599910 , Reply# 18   5/30/2012 at 14:17 (4,341 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 599924 , Reply# 19   5/30/2012 at 15:47 (4,341 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 599932 , Reply# 21   5/30/2012 at 16:06 (4,341 days old) by in2itdood ()   |   | |
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I'll make sure I bring lots of dirty laundry next time I visit. =) scott |
Post# 599970 , Reply# 22   5/30/2012 at 19:54 (4,341 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 599972 , Reply# 23   5/30/2012 at 20:29 (4,341 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Post# 599973 , Reply# 24   5/30/2012 at 20:31 (4,341 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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As mentioned Jeff M found this on Oregon's Craigslist for $175.00 and I contacted the seller immediately. He said he had listed a week or so earlier for $350.00 and got no responses. He told me that they were fixing up a house that had sat vacant for 3 years and when he and his wife first went in the house after dark with no power at the house with flash lights and started looking around and when they spotted the Easy they thought it was a new FL washer. After the power was on days later they realized that it was not a new machine. But with lots of cleaning up to do she decided to try it out and it actually worked and then she was really shocked when she realized that it could be set to also dry the clothing and this actually worked also. She told me that she had never seen such a machine and couldn't understand why these were not being built today.
Will all good things come to an end and on the 10th load the water would not shut off and it flooded. So her husband disconnected it and was taking it to the dump and on a whim he stopped at a small appliance repair shop he knew of on the way to the dump. The guy at the shop said it was just a stuck inlet valve and suggested that he could disassemble it and clean and it might work again. So it took it back home and got it to work again and they continued to use it a while longer. But they found the original instruction book and realized how old it was and decided to try and sell it.
When I talked to him and he told me the story I immediately said I would give him his original asking price of $350.00 and sent a check, with Jeff's help we found a shipper in a few weeks who got it here in great shape a few weeks later. Tom offered and paid for shipping which cost more than the machine but was reasonable considering the distance. And that's how it came to be part of Combo collection where folks can come and see it run. I will try to get someone to do a video as I an still mastering the posting of pictures, LOL. |
Post# 599975 , Reply# 25   5/30/2012 at 20:51 (4,341 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 599978 , Reply# 26   5/30/2012 at 21:05 (4,341 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 599987 , Reply# 27   5/30/2012 at 22:03 (4,341 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Post# 599994 , Reply# 28   5/30/2012 at 22:37 (4,341 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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and tonight we got a grand slam along with his characteristic self-deprecating humor--"I am still mastering the posting of pictures, LOL"
Thank you, John
Another Satisfied Customer
PS: I get it now. When Combo fever struck, every major brand scrambled to engineer a Combo, the most complex laundry machine ever conceived. Once understood and appreciated, a washer lover can't resist their attraction. Now hooked, too! |
Post# 600007 , Reply# 29   5/30/2012 at 23:14 (4,341 days old) by A440 ()   |   | |
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Wow! What an awesome find and awesome looking machine! Love the motors and belts! I bet it is not only wonderful to watch but fantastic to hear! Great story about how it was saved! Thanks for sharing! Brent |
Post# 600009 , Reply# 30   5/30/2012 at 23:40 (4,341 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 600033 , Reply# 32   5/31/2012 at 03:36 (4,341 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 600035 , Reply# 33   5/31/2012 at 05:47 (4,341 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 600051 , Reply# 34   5/31/2012 at 07:36 (4,341 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 600067 , Reply# 35   5/31/2012 at 09:33 (4,341 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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While I believe this Easy Combo was one of very few domestically built residential washers ever built to use two motors it was certainly done on some commercial FL machines and on a few European machines. While the motor was always one of the most expensive parts of a machine in earlier machines using two motors eliminated the need for a transmission.
It is indeed fun to watch this machine go through the spin cycle, as the machine is tumbling the 2nd motor will cut in and accelerate the tub to about 250 RPMs, as soon as the centrifugal switch in the spin motor cycles the spin motor cuts off and the machine coasts back to tumble speed and this repeats over and over again, maybe 20 times in the final spin? I will have to count. Even with no suspension the machine really doesn't vibrate, Easy did provide little foot pads for the two front feet that could either be glued or screwed to the floor to keep the machine from moving a little during the extraction process. We don't have the foot cups installed and in only load we ran did the machine want to move at all. |
Post# 600169 , Reply# 39   5/31/2012 at 20:06 (4,340 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Long enough for jump rope or hop-scotch!
John, everybody wants more paragraphs, please.
Being an Easy, does it spray rinse or tumble flush rinse with the drain open? What is the cycle sequence?
What does the acc/decelerated spin sound like? On a scale of 1 to 10, how cool is this machine? And where does it fit in your hierarchy of machines?
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Post# 600181 , Reply# 40   5/31/2012 at 21:09 (4,340 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 600198 , Reply# 41   5/31/2012 at 22:54 (4,340 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Fun trying to figure the mechanism. Looks like, the spin motor is also a reduction pulley for tumble. So it turns all the time too, just not under its own power. The tumble motor drives it through a one-way clutch so if the spin motor wants to go faster it can while the tumble/pump/fan motor continues at 1750.
This is rather clever, as the amount of torque the clutch has to pass is much less than it would be if the one-way clutch were on the tub shaft like it is in a Westy transmissionless. Many here know, a one-way clutch is either all or none. It slips virtually 100% in one direction and 0% in the other. Like a bicycle hub. |
Post# 600209 , Reply# 42   5/31/2012 at 23:58 (4,340 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Congrats on the Easy Combo find out of Oregon!
I also did not know that Easy made a combo. What a beautiful machine and in such good shape. I think you paid a fair price and that was very generous of you to give the guy more than he was asking. I too hope to see it in person some day at your museum. I'm glad it ended up in a good home. Patrick |
Post# 600218 , Reply# 43   6/1/2012 at 01:03 (4,340 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Before the electronic controlled motors were introduced, most washers here with high speeds had separate motors for washing and spinning. I love the sound when the spin motor takes over from the wash motor.
I guess you would say those were three motor machines, because there was always a separate motor on the pump too. |
Post# 600461 , Reply# 44   6/2/2012 at 07:02 (4,339 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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This Easy as mentioned earlier is the vented electric drying model, they also made water cooled condenser models and gas heated vented models. The machine has a powerful blower and two 2500 watt elements, for normal dry settings it uses both elements for the fine fabric setting it only uses one element. Inside the outer tub the intake for the exhaust blower is covered with a fine mesh SS screen mounted between the 9 and 11 o'clock area. This screen collects lint during the dry cycle and the lint stays there till the next time the machine is used. When the next load is started the lint stays on the screen through the wash cycle and the first rinse and as the first rinse is draining the machine will do a brief spin and spray water into the machine at the same time, this causes the lint to be flushed off the screen. It is really dramatic to see all the lint suddenly flushing out the drain hose and harmlessly down the drain, it is one of the most effective self-cleaning filters I have ever seen.
The only problem the dryer has because our building only has 208 volts the dryers heaters only put out 3,750 watts of heat instead of the full 5,000. I am going to solve this by mounting a KA KD 17 drying heater element in the air intake for the heater box which will add 1100 watts of heat power. I am also adding an additional safety thermostat for the additional heater and three heat relays to protect the timer, dry temperature switch and motor centrifugal switch. |
Post# 600480 , Reply# 45   6/2/2012 at 07:37 (4,339 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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That spin cycle is fascinating! Bendix found that 90% of the wash water is extracted in the Duo at 250 RPMS. Thats why the Duo only gets up to 250 in the final spin and stops dead still before going on to the final 525 spin before dry. This patented process prevents pasting of the clothing against the drum during the dry cycle.
My new Speed Queens use this same spin accelerate as the EASY. The SQ ramps up to 250 and back down again repeatedly. In physics a short duration acceleration is what is called an impact. The impact effect transfers a lot of energy in a brief amount of time. I think this might cause greater extraction than just ramping up to 250 for a few minutes. The repeated ramp up and down increases the acceleration cycles that the clothes are exposed too. At first I didn't get it, thought it was stupid but looking at it from a physical standpoint maybe not. And Easy did this way back before electronics. Washers Rock! |
Post# 601007 , Reply# 47   6/4/2012 at 19:15 (4,336 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 601010 , Reply# 48   6/4/2012 at 19:41 (4,336 days old) by philcoford (Maryland)   |   | |
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John, That is an awesome machine, thanks for sharing and teaching us how it all works. Can't wait to see it in person someday. I love the technology that goes into these combinations. |
Post# 601018 , Reply# 49   6/4/2012 at 19:58 (4,336 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Paul, I don't really have a favorite, I used to get these big balky things that looked like the contactors that were used in central A/C condensing units. But now the ones that I have been using are much smaller and quieter, I look for ones that handle at least 30 AMPs and have 200-240 volt coils, do you have any you like? |
Post# 601029 , Reply# 50   6/4/2012 at 21:43 (4,336 days old) by AutoWasherFreak ()   |   | |
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What a beauty, it certainly doesn't look it's age at all. |
Post# 601120 , Reply# 51   6/5/2012 at 07:29 (4,336 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)   |   | |
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