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Post# 599839   5/30/2012 at 07:54 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Yes thanks to Jeff [ moparguy ] who spotted this on Oregon's Craigslist a few months ago and Tom [ TurboMatic ] for paying the shipping we now have an Easy combo here in Beltsville, Md. The machine is a 1960 vented electric model, probably the most basic version. The machine needed very little work and seems to function as it should, it is a very unique machine that employed many interesting ideas.





Post# 599841 , Reply# 1   5/30/2012 at 07:56 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Controls

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Control Panel


Post# 599843 , Reply# 2   5/30/2012 at 07:57 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Top view

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Motors


Post# 599845 , Reply# 3   5/30/2012 at 07:59 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Rear veiw

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Belt drive system


Post# 599846 , Reply# 4   5/30/2012 at 08:01 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Inside Tub

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Unique tub design


Post# 599847 , Reply# 5   5/30/2012 at 08:02 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Tub Front

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Note unique scalloped rubber clothes guard


Post# 599849 , Reply# 6   5/30/2012 at 08:03 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Picture Washing

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Great wash action


Post# 599851 , Reply# 7   5/30/2012 at 08:07 (4,342 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Close-up of motors

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Motor on left is main tumble motor that runs all the time, right motor is cycled on and off briefly to provide water extraction during spin periods.


Post# 599853 , Reply# 8   5/30/2012 at 08:22 (4,342 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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YAY and CONGRATS John! Thanks for posting the photos, what a neat little machine!   Looks like it's in UH-MAY-ZING condition!   WOW!

It looks like it probably has 6 baffles in the drum?

No suspension... 200 or so RPM spin?

Do you have any video?

YAY!
Kevin


Post# 599856 , Reply# 9   5/30/2012 at 08:50 (4,342 days old) by MaytagA710 ()        
Hey John!

That is a excellent looking machine. Great find, and the condition is on par with show room condition.

I really like the mechanics of the machine, I spent a good 5-10 minutes trying to figure out how it worked.

I second the motion for a video!


Post# 599857 , Reply# 10   5/30/2012 at 08:51 (4,342 days old) by Northwesty (Renton, WA)        
Wouldn't know it was over 50 years old

Very modern looking machine

Post# 599858 , Reply# 11   5/30/2012 at 08:52 (4,342 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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John - what an amazing machine to find! Very, very cool that it is in such great shape.

Love the dual motors, with not only various types of belts being driven but that pump belt is out of this world - I can't believe how long it is! So much stuff to play with under the hood, with everything accessible from the top. Servicing appears to be much more tolerable than what it would be on a pesky Maytag combo.... ;)

Thanks for sharing ---

Ben




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Post# 599861 , Reply# 12   5/30/2012 at 09:04 (4,342 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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COOL!  John, that combo is in fantastic shape.   I am floored by the two-motor design - I don't think I have ever seen anything quite like it. 

 

Congratulations on a great find!!   Must come visit and check it out this summer.... LOL


Post# 599876 , Reply# 13   5/30/2012 at 10:40 (4,342 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Druel!

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Wow another two motor monster! Just think what electronic drives could do for that machine today!

Love the 6 tub baffleing!

And she looks brand new too!

Great find John!



Post# 599879 , Reply# 14   5/30/2012 at 10:49 (4,342 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Ohhh that is such a cute combo John, congratulations!!!!!

Looks like a low-mileage machine, glad it didn't take much work to get it running!


Post# 599887 , Reply# 15   5/30/2012 at 11:51 (4,341 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
I'll take a "Fine" wash and a "Fine" dry

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But I don't get the second motor. Does it cycle on and off to increase the spin speed or to does it pump out the water? I'll go back and study some more.

 

So happy you guys got this.


Post# 599899 , Reply# 16   5/30/2012 at 13:05 (4,341 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Wow,

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Great find there, and look at the back, it looks like the drum is wedged into those side panels and locked into place with the guides on the base...

And I suppose all those motors and gubbins are perfect on the top of the drum to weigh it down so reducing and UP movement!!!

All becomes a lot clearer after the other recent thread!!


Post# 599906 , Reply# 17   5/30/2012 at 13:38 (4,341 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles)        
What a beauty . . .

I love the control panel that says "Combomatic"! It could only be better if it were turquoise, but then I think that about all old appliances. Interesting internal shots too, how is this puppy at extraction with the 2nd motor?




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Post# 599910 , Reply# 18   5/30/2012 at 14:17 (4,341 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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That's a very pretty machine! I love machines with two motors, my mother's Bosch and her first Miele had separate wash and spin motors.



Post# 599924 , Reply# 19   5/30/2012 at 15:47 (4,341 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Warm Rinse

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So how long before that warm rinse switch meets it's fate?

 

I'm glad you posted this finally :) How tall is it?

 

-Tim


Post# 599927 , Reply# 20   5/30/2012 at 15:53 (4,341 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)        
Amazing find, John . . .

. . . and thanks for sharing with all of us. That must be the only one in existence. I have seen only one Easy combo in my life and I was able to only look at it. Never got to see it run.

A video with sound would be wonderful.

Thanks again for all you do for us.

Jerry Gay


Post# 599932 , Reply# 21   5/30/2012 at 16:06 (4,341 days old) by in2itdood ()        
Amazing ...Love it !!!....

I'll make sure I bring lots of dirty laundry next time I visit. =)

scott


Post# 599970 , Reply# 22   5/30/2012 at 19:54 (4,341 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I"m speechless beyond "HAWT DAYAM!!!" Those rocker switches are reminiscent of the Speed Queen Combo to me.

Post# 599972 , Reply# 23   5/30/2012 at 20:29 (4,341 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Great find John

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It looks to be in awesome shape. Ii like the dual motor drive. That is common on heavier duty commercial washer-extractors with multiple tumble speeds and high G-force extraction. It makes for a longer lasting machine.
Have fun with this one.
Nick WK78


Post# 599973 , Reply# 24   5/30/2012 at 20:31 (4,341 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
The New Easy Combo

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As mentioned Jeff M found this on Oregon's Craigslist for $175.00 and I contacted the seller immediately. He said he had listed a week or so earlier for $350.00 and got no responses. He told me that they were fixing up a house that had sat vacant for 3 years and when he and his wife first went in the house after dark with no power at the house with flash lights and started looking around and when they spotted the Easy they thought it was a new FL washer. After the power was on days later they realized that it was not a new machine. But with lots of cleaning up to do she decided to try it out and it actually worked and then she was really shocked when she realized that it could be set to also dry the clothing and this actually worked also. She told me that she had never seen such a machine and couldn't understand why these were not being built today.

 

Will all good things come to an end and on the 10th load the water would not shut off and it flooded. So her husband disconnected it and was taking it to the dump and on a whim he stopped at a small appliance repair shop he knew of on the way to the dump. The guy at the shop said it was just a stuck inlet valve and suggested that he could disassemble it and clean and it might work again. So it took it back home and got it to work again and they continued to use it a while longer. But they found the original instruction book and realized how old it was and decided to try and sell it.

 

When I talked to him and he told me the story I immediately said I would give him his original asking price of $350.00 and sent a check, with Jeff's help we found a shipper in a few weeks who got it here in great shape a few weeks later. Tom offered and paid for shipping which cost more than the machine but was reasonable considering the distance. And that's how it came to be part of Combo collection where folks can come and see it run. I will try to get someone to do a video as I an still mastering the posting of pictures, LOL.


Post# 599975 , Reply# 25   5/30/2012 at 20:51 (4,341 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Easy Combo!

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John
This is really a great combo. And it is a pleasure to see water in a washer. BTW how do you set the dry control with that one dial? Do you have the instruction booklet with it?
Best Of Luck
Peter



Post# 599978 , Reply# 26   5/30/2012 at 21:05 (4,341 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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I never saw an Easy before but it looks great. I can only ever remember seeing a Kenmore and a Whirlpool combo in person before. I wondered also, do you set the wash and dry cycles thru the one knob?

Post# 599987 , Reply# 27   5/30/2012 at 22:03 (4,341 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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That was the first combo I ever got for my collection. it was tossed out but was their gas version and seamed to work o.k. even though I never did get to connect it to gas.Graet shape fab. score!!!!! It ain't that easy to find THAT Easy! LOL

Post# 599994 , Reply# 28   5/30/2012 at 22:37 (4,341 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
We always HOPE for a satsfying story on a mint find

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and tonight we got a grand slam along with his characteristic self-deprecating humor--"I am still mastering the posting of pictures, LOL"

 

Thank you, John

 

Another Satisfied Customer

 

PS: I get it now. When Combo fever struck, every major brand scrambled to engineer a Combo, the most complex laundry machine ever conceived. Once understood and appreciated, a washer lover can't resist their attraction. Now hooked, too!


Post# 600007 , Reply# 29   5/30/2012 at 23:14 (4,341 days old) by A440 ()        

Wow! What an awesome find and awesome looking machine!
Love the motors and belts! I bet it is not only wonderful to watch but
fantastic to hear!
Great story about how it was saved!
Thanks for sharing!
Brent


Post# 600009 , Reply# 30   5/30/2012 at 23:40 (4,341 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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What a fascinating machine!  Good save, guys, I can't wait to see it live and in person someday.  Look at all those belts, that long one to the pump? could be snatched off and run a juicer on the counter!  Love it, and minty-fresh too!  Thanks for all the pics, John, you done good!


Post# 600010 , Reply# 31   5/30/2012 at 23:44 (4,341 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Very unique and interesting machine-and in such like new condition!No dust,lint,or dirt in it.the twin motor design is fascinating.would be most interesting to watch this machine from the INSIDE to see how its twin motor mechanism works.All of those belts--bet putting them in is like threading a motion picture projector!The belts are in nice condition as well-no cracks or stretching.etc.

Post# 600033 , Reply# 32   5/31/2012 at 03:36 (4,341 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        

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John, glad you could save this very unique combo!  Thanks for posting pictures of it.


Post# 600035 , Reply# 33   5/31/2012 at 05:47 (4,341 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I didn't even realize Easy made a combo. What a cool little machine. Congrats on this unique acquisition! One question: How does it not hop all over the place during spins, seeing that it has no suspension system? It doesn't appear to have to be bolted down.

Post# 600051 , Reply# 34   5/31/2012 at 07:36 (4,341 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Very nice!

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Very nice indeed John

Very clean!

Cheers
Leon


Post# 600067 , Reply# 35   5/31/2012 at 09:33 (4,341 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Dual Motor Washers

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While I believe this Easy Combo was one of very few domestically built residential washers ever built to use two motors it was certainly done on some commercial FL machines and on a few European machines. While the motor was always one of the most expensive parts of a machine in earlier machines using two motors eliminated the need for a transmission.

 

It is indeed fun to watch this machine go through the spin cycle, as the machine is tumbling the 2nd motor will cut in and accelerate the tub to about 250 RPMs, as soon as the centrifugal switch in the spin motor cycles the spin motor cuts off and the machine coasts back to tumble speed and this repeats over and over again, maybe 20 times in the final spin? I will have to count. Even with no suspension the machine really doesn't vibrate, Easy did provide little foot pads for the two front feet that could either be glued or screwed to the floor to keep the machine from moving a little during the extraction process. We don't have the foot cups installed and in only load we ran did the machine want to move at all.


Post# 600075 , Reply# 36   5/31/2012 at 10:39 (4,341 days old) by A440 ()        
Fun!

John the spin cycles sound fun and effective. I guess when it goes back into tumble the wetter (heaver) clothes "win" and make it to the outer part of the tub before the purge spin starts again. Just my thought.
Do you know Easy offered this combo in Gas?
Brent


Post# 600105 , Reply# 37   5/31/2012 at 12:16 (4,340 days old) by spin-it ()        

John, I don' t post very often but I have to say I love this machine. Just beautiful and clean. Congrats on a great find. I am fascinated by the 2 motor design. Does the spin motor have a higher RPM than the tumble motor? I don't see any clutch mechanisms. Also when the spin motor is enegized does the tumble motor denergize and free wheel? I too would love to see videos. Were you lucky enough to get any service manuals. The Daily Doctrine anxiously awaits.

Post# 600138 , Reply# 38   5/31/2012 at 16:21 (4,340 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Great find guys

I too love the twin motor set up, and had to smile at the thought of the pump belt being run up to the worktop to power a juicer. Select spin and pulse the juice out of those oranges.

I too have been studying the belt system, Am I right in thinking the plastic part behind the pulleys is a spring clutch, so that the spin motor overides the wash drive, rather than drive the wash motor faster, and also is that a solinoid under the blower pulley to hold off the drive to the dryer fan when in wash and spin cycle.

I also think if the oportunity to have a suspension system incorperated, and I understand from the other threads the reasons why not, but having two motors could have enabled a much faster spin speed, than machines relying on two gear or drive ratios from a single speed motor.

I just love this machine, being over in the uk we love our front loaders, and I supose its just what your brought up with but I prefer the large round door glass over the GEs small square window, it all looks beautifully proportioned.

I too lookforward to seeing some films of it, both from the front and the back. I think I would be temted to install this in the centre of a laundry so both the wash action and the belt drives could be enjoyed.

Thanks for posting the photos

Mathew


Post# 600169 , Reply# 39   5/31/2012 at 20:06 (4,340 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Agreed, the belt, indeed!

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Long enough for jump rope or hop-scotch!

 

John, everybody wants more paragraphs, please.

 

Being an Easy, does it spray rinse or tumble flush rinse with the drain open? What is the cycle sequence?

 

What does the acc/decelerated spin sound like? On a scale of 1 to 10, how cool is this machine? And where does it fit in your hierarchy of machines?

 

 

 


Post# 600181 , Reply# 40   5/31/2012 at 21:09 (4,340 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Two Motors

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Cannot be 100% sure but think the Miele W1070 and W1065 have two motors as well. At least remember our Miele tech saying something that there were two (one for tumbling the other for extraction) when one inquired about the size of the huge cast iron motor in my machine.

Post# 600198 , Reply# 41   5/31/2012 at 22:54 (4,340 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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Fun trying to figure the mechanism. Looks like, the spin motor is also a reduction pulley for tumble. So it turns all the time too, just not under its own power. The tumble motor drives it through a one-way clutch so if the spin motor wants to go faster it can while the tumble/pump/fan motor continues at 1750.

This is rather clever, as the amount of torque the clutch has to pass is much less than it would be if the one-way clutch were on the tub shaft like it is in a Westy transmissionless. Many here know, a one-way clutch is either all or none. It slips virtually 100% in one direction and 0% in the other. Like a bicycle hub.


Post# 600209 , Reply# 42   5/31/2012 at 23:58 (4,340 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
John

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Congrats on the Easy Combo find out of Oregon!

I also did not know that Easy made a combo. What a beautiful machine and in such good shape. I think you paid a fair price and that was very generous of you to give the guy more than he was asking.

I too hope to see it in person some day at your museum. I'm glad it ended up in a good home.

Patrick


Post# 600218 , Reply# 43   6/1/2012 at 01:03 (4,340 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Before the electronic controlled motors were introduced, most washers here with high speeds had separate motors for washing and spinning. I love the sound when the spin motor takes over from the wash motor.

I guess you would say those were three motor machines, because there was always a separate motor on the pump too.


Post# 600461 , Reply# 44   6/2/2012 at 07:02 (4,339 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
The Easy Drying System

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This Easy as mentioned earlier is the vented electric drying model, they also made water cooled condenser models and gas heated vented models. The machine has a powerful blower and two 2500 watt elements, for normal dry settings it uses both elements for the fine fabric setting it only uses one element. Inside the outer tub the intake for the exhaust blower is covered with a fine mesh SS screen mounted between the 9 and 11 o'clock area. This screen collects lint during the dry cycle and the lint stays there till the next time the machine is used. When the next load is started the lint stays on the screen through the wash cycle and the first rinse and as the first rinse is draining the machine will do a brief spin and spray water into the machine at the same time, this causes the lint to be flushed off the screen. It is really dramatic to see all the lint suddenly flushing out the drain hose and harmlessly down the drain, it is one of the most effective self-cleaning filters I have ever seen.

 

The only problem the dryer has because our building only has 208 volts the dryers heaters only put out 3,750 watts of heat instead of the full 5,000. I am going to solve this by mounting a KA KD 17 drying heater element in the air intake for the heater box which will add 1100 watts of heat power. I am also adding an additional safety thermostat for the additional heater and three heat relays to protect the timer, dry temperature switch and motor centrifugal switch.


Post# 600480 , Reply# 45   6/2/2012 at 07:37 (4,339 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Nothing new under the Sun!

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That spin cycle is fascinating! Bendix found that 90% of the wash water is extracted in the Duo at 250 RPMS. Thats why the Duo only gets up to 250 in the final spin and stops dead still before going on to the final 525 spin before dry. This patented process prevents pasting of the clothing against the drum during the dry cycle.

My new Speed Queens use this same spin accelerate as the EASY. The SQ ramps up to 250 and back down again repeatedly. In physics a short duration acceleration is what is called an impact. The impact effect transfers a lot of energy in a brief amount of time. I think this might cause greater extraction than just ramping up to 250 for a few minutes. The repeated ramp up and down increases the acceleration cycles that the clothes are exposed too.
At first I didn't get it, thought it was stupid but looking at it from a physical standpoint maybe not. And Easy did this way back before electronics.
Washers Rock!


Post# 600987 , Reply# 46   6/4/2012 at 17:10 (4,336 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Yes, Jon, but heavy fabrics are not as well extracted at the slower spin speeds so the rinsing in the SQ is not as good as it could be. The Miele W1986 with high speed spins after the wash and each of the three rinses, rinses much better than the SQ. After the final spin in the EASY, we put the load in a nearby toploader for a spin and it removed a bunch more water, so much so that water could no longer be wrung from the towels by hand. Even though Bendix said that 90% of the water was removed at 250rpm, they increased the spin to the full 500+rpm after each of the rinses for better laundering. You can't cut corners when you are removing radioactive dirt from laundry.

"Um, no, there is no green tub light in the Duomatic. Why do you ask?"


Post# 601007 , Reply# 47   6/4/2012 at 19:15 (4,336 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)        
Relays

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What type of relay do you add? Do you have a favorite part # for these relays?
Thanks.


Post# 601010 , Reply# 48   6/4/2012 at 19:41 (4,336 days old) by philcoford (Maryland)        

John,

That is an awesome machine, thanks for sharing and teaching us how it all works. Can't wait to see it in person someday. I love the technology that goes into these combinations.



Post# 601018 , Reply# 49   6/4/2012 at 19:58 (4,336 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Heat relays

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Paul,  I don't really have a favorite, I used to get these big balky things that looked like the contactors that were used in central A/C condensing units. But now the ones that I have been using are much smaller and quieter, I look for ones that handle at least 30 AMPs and have 200-240 volt coils, do you have any you like?


Post# 601029 , Reply# 50   6/4/2012 at 21:43 (4,336 days old) by AutoWasherFreak ()        

What a beauty, it certainly doesn't look it's age at all.


Post# 601120 , Reply# 51   6/5/2012 at 07:29 (4,336 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)        
Relays

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I don't have a favorite however I have seen solid-state relays in use and that solution look attractive. They were compact and carried large currents. Haven't done the math to see if they'd work in a washer (ex: My 1930's Bendix).


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